2020 Democratic presidential primary

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No man’s land: How Trump Tower became Chicago retail’s biggest failure

About a year before the 2005 groundbreaking for Trump International Hotel & Tower, Trump Organization executive Charles Reiss met the late Chicago real estate broker Bruce Kaplan and his colleague, Leslie Karr. The Trump family, Reiss said, wanted advice on how to market the retail space that would face the Chicago River at the tower’s base.

“The way it’s designed now, it’s never going to lease up,” Karr recalls telling Reiss. The roughly 70,000-square-foot deck’s 10-foot ceilings, undulating facade and sunken location would be too awkward to attract customers, she said.

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“It’s a dreadful space,” said Karr, who is now senior vice president for retail at SVN Chicago Commercial. “You could have some kind of luxury call center there, or maybe a high-end med spa, but not at the prices they were asking.”

A decade after the tower opened in 2009, it has just one retail tenant, a salon that occupies an enclosed 3,400-square-foot suite above the hotel lobby. The entire deck-level space remains empty, its blank beige walls on full display for the millions of tourists who stroll along the river each year. No part of it has ever been leased, according to Trump Organization tax appeal documents filed in Cook County and analyzed by The Real Deal.

grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 31 March 2019 20:31 (seven years ago)

Whoops - wrong thread.

grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 31 March 2019 20:32 (seven years ago)

Did we get to the fact that Warren was convinced by the Pod Save guys to do the DNA test?

Simon H., Monday, 1 April 2019 11:28 (seven years ago)

All the Dem candidates as Michael Scott is the most accurate thing I have ever seen. pic.twitter.com/ZHE45KHMvR

— Will Dammann (@WillDammann) March 22, 2019

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 1 April 2019 11:32 (seven years ago)

Did we get to the fact that Warren was convinced by the Pod Save guys to do the DNA test?

Where in the world did you hear that? If they ever mentioned it, it was probably a throwaway joke. They roundly said it was a boneheaded thing to do after she made a big deal about the results.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 1 April 2019 13:14 (seven years ago)

pic.twitter.com/w2h8k8zBAA

— Dollars Horton Official (@crushingbort) March 31, 2019

Simon H., Monday, 1 April 2019 13:16 (seven years ago)

Doesn't scan as a joke to me.

Simon H., Monday, 1 April 2019 13:19 (seven years ago)

if Elizabeth Warren can be "convinced" to do something based on a throwaway comment on a podcast then maybe she shouldn't be president after all.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Monday, 1 April 2019 13:23 (seven years ago)

pod save is a russian psyop i will not be reading replies to this post

mr greta t. gremlin (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 1 April 2019 13:25 (seven years ago)

I mean, they worked for Obama and have a rep among establishment Dems (deserved or not) as canny political operatives, so it's not a huge surprise. xp

Simon H., Monday, 1 April 2019 13:26 (seven years ago)

She would be a great president. This is fucking dumb.

Trϵϵship, Monday, 1 April 2019 13:30 (seven years ago)

I don't disagree!

Simon H., Monday, 1 April 2019 13:31 (seven years ago)

I don't remember that interview, though I probably listened to it at the time, but being Jon Lovett it would be pretty hard to believe Warren was convinced to do it by one sarcastic not-thought-out question.

I like PSA, and several of the other shows on Crooked, but Lovett is the comic relief—the sidekick—and if EW acted on one of his interjections, then wtf.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 1 April 2019 13:32 (seven years ago)

ironically, just from having listened to way each of them addresses issues for the past (oh god) four years, Lovett definitely seems like the furthest left of the main four PSA dudes.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Monday, 1 April 2019 13:34 (seven years ago)

These Pod Save people might want to do a Learning Annex class on their highly skilled methods of persuasion. I mean, this is fucking amazing if true. To completely rewire a highly intelligent adult's thinking like that?

Yerac, Monday, 1 April 2019 13:35 (seven years ago)

i think it's good that warren isn't a "canny politician.' it makes me like her more. trump was saying she was a liar so she decided to illustrate that she was not a liar.

Trϵϵship, Monday, 1 April 2019 13:37 (seven years ago)

she was upfront that this was a distant part of her heritage that she learned of through family lore. she didn't claim tribal membership or anything like that. i respect the fact that members of the cherokee nation are uncomfortable with DNA tests and, in hindsight, warren should have sought their advice. however, i am much more uncomfortable with the fact that trump calls warren "pocahantas" like wtf

Trϵϵship, Monday, 1 April 2019 13:39 (seven years ago)

I undid my like of that Michael Scott tweet just bc dude seems like a conservative, but it was p inspired.

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Monday, 1 April 2019 13:40 (seven years ago)

Warren is fine being Warren. She doesn't need to live up to being the traditional total piece of shit politician.

Yerac, Monday, 1 April 2019 13:40 (seven years ago)

yeah the Office supercut def came from conservative circles. but it was pretty harmless really iirc

Simon H., Monday, 1 April 2019 13:41 (seven years ago)

Also Treeship OTM. Whether Warren responded to Trump's baiting in the best possible way bothers me less than the baiting.

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Monday, 1 April 2019 13:42 (seven years ago)

I'm listening to the segment in question now, and Lovett's question seems borderline sincere, but Warren's answer to him is firmly and resoundingly no. So it'd be pretty hard to pin this on him, since she told him why she's not gonna do it right to his face.

https://crooked.com/podcast/taking-gavel-paul-ryans-hand/

Starts at about the 59:30 mark.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 1 April 2019 13:42 (seven years ago)

lol that interview was from last March and she did the test in October?

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Monday, 1 April 2019 13:54 (seven years ago)

Yeah, this was her campaign planning crew that talked her into this. Not some ex-Obama staffers on a podcast.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 1 April 2019 13:58 (seven years ago)

god it sucks knowing that if Warren did somehow win the nomination, there would be zero good faith effort by the right (and especially Trump) to counter her policy proposals and ideas, it would just be 24/7 non-stop POCAHONTASPOCAHONTASPOCAHONTASPOCAHONTASPOCAHONTASPOCAHONTASPOCAHONTASPOCAHONTASPOCAHONTASPOCAHONTASPOCAHONTASPOCAHONTASPOCAHONTASPOCAHONTASPOCAHONTASPOCAHONTASPOCAHONTASPOCAHONTAS

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Monday, 1 April 2019 14:00 (seven years ago)

She might be a better bet than Bernie. I haven’t decided who I am going to vote for—by the time they’re in NY I’m assuming it will be clear which one has the best shot of winning.

Trϵϵship, Monday, 1 April 2019 14:05 (seven years ago)

There is going to be zero good faith from the right about anyone. Who cares.

Yerac, Monday, 1 April 2019 14:07 (seven years ago)

True.

I can get with most of these candidates with my head if need be, but Liz Warren is the one in my <3. I wish America didn't suck so much.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 1 April 2019 14:09 (seven years ago)

The right doesn't operate in good faith with their own candidates, let alone opposition candidates. Yerac OTM.

GDPR vs GAPDY (DJP), Monday, 1 April 2019 14:12 (seven years ago)

I can get with most of these candidates with my head if need be

true but if the candidate ends up Biden or O'Rourke that puts me at risk of accidentally ticking the wrong box on my GE ballot due to uncontrollable eyerolling

⅋ (crüt), Monday, 1 April 2019 14:29 (seven years ago)

tbc I like Warren a lot, I just found the Pod Save connection amusing. The fact that she's so far behind in funding and (currently) polling sucks shit.

Simon H., Monday, 1 April 2019 14:30 (seven years ago)

god it sucks knowing that if Warren did somehow win the nomination, there would be zero good faith effort by the right (and especially Trump) to counter her policy proposals and ideas, it would just be 24/7 non-stop POCAHONTASPOCAHONTASPOCAHONTASPOCAHONTASPOCAHONTASPOCAHONTASPOCAHONTASPOCAHONTASPOCAHONTASPOCAHONTASPOCAHONTASPOCAHONTASPOCAHONTASPOCAHONTASPOCAHONTASPOCAHONTASPOCAHONTASPOCAHONTAS

― Evans on Hammond (evol j), 1. april 2019 16:00 (twenty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

But I thought purely negative campaigns can't work, and it's only possible to win by running on popular issues. So wouldn't this make Warren the most electable?

Frederik B, Monday, 1 April 2019 14:32 (seven years ago)

It still doesn't make the idea of subjecting the entire country to that campaign desirable or enjoyable.

GDPR vs GAPDY (DJP), Monday, 1 April 2019 14:43 (seven years ago)

I wish it weren't so, but I feel like Warren's best + most possible destiny is to be a really strong cabinet member

rob, Monday, 1 April 2019 16:46 (seven years ago)

yeah the Office supercut def came from conservative circles. but it was pretty harmless really iirc

― Simon H., Monday, April 1, 2019 8:41 AM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the original had a michael moment for trump too, but the fair-and-balanced washington free beacon seems to have omitted that particular scene.

Neus Anneus (voodoo chili), Monday, 1 April 2019 16:50 (seven years ago)

we probably should separate the head of state/head of government roles because a lot of voters and donors seem only interested in choosing the former. https://t.co/Nu3Xk4z5Ow

— 'Weird Alex' Pareene (@pareene) April 1, 2019

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 1 April 2019 17:01 (seven years ago)

Or, like, separate votes for the legislative and the executive branch.

Frederik B, Monday, 1 April 2019 17:36 (seven years ago)

that was my most alfred post

― k3vin k., Saturday, March 30, 2019

Butt plugs and fragrance?

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 April 2019 18:13 (seven years ago)

Butt Plugs/Fragrance 2020
Kink We Can Believe In

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 1 April 2019 18:21 (seven years ago)

another biden story just broke

https://www.courant.com/politics/hc-pol-biden-grabbed-aide-20190401-vl7chim3hrdjtcwu2tszrhozzm-story.html

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 1 April 2019 19:08 (seven years ago)

shocking

Simon H., Monday, 1 April 2019 19:14 (seven years ago)

can't wait to see how Kristen Gillibrand gets blamed for this.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Monday, 1 April 2019 19:15 (seven years ago)

$10 says it involves ranch dressing

GDPR vs GAPDY (DJP), Monday, 1 April 2019 19:58 (seven years ago)

I mean some people are trying to pin the Flores incident on Bernie, so I earnestly wouldn't be surprised

Simon H., Monday, 1 April 2019 20:00 (seven years ago)

wondering if his window is closing or if he's just gonna try to biden his time until may and hope this blows over
nb: i no longer think this is gonna blow over; too much heat from all sides

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 1 April 2019 20:00 (seven years ago)

yeah let's please hurry up and skip to the part where he sourly announces he's not running because the party has abandoned comity with Republicans and good old fashioned bipartisan governance, followed by Joe Scarborough rending his garments on air.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Monday, 1 April 2019 20:04 (seven years ago)

Sorry for Amp and Beto Hot Take: https://amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/586201/

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 1 April 2019 20:55 (seven years ago)

Xpost yeah a quick scroll through Twitter and I see people circulating photos of Bernie with his hand on Flores’ shoulder and Flores with her hand on Biden’s shoulder
So this is going to go well

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Monday, 1 April 2019 20:58 (seven years ago)

Okay, that's pretty good

Finally an office with room for a walk and talk. pic.twitter.com/SfphOsXZiY

— Pete Buttigieg (@PeteButtigieg) April 2, 2019

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 2 April 2019 11:59 (seven years ago)


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