2020 Democratic presidential primary

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He conceded that Trump won

He’s careful not even to say this, just that Trump was elected.

steven, soda jerk (sic), Saturday, 30 March 2019 16:28 (five years ago) link


Or Nathan Robinson. I have no clue who Nathan J Sanders is.
― Yerac, Saturday, March 30, 2019 3:52 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

nephew of col. sanders

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Saturday, 30 March 2019 17:20 (five years ago) link

Once more, @PeteButtigieg talks about how his faith informs his politics and the need for a stronger religous left, this time to someone not too friendly to faith (h/t @GuthrieGF for the video) pic.twitter.com/02cBxdhNrv

— Michael J. O'Loughlin (@MikeOLoughlin) March 30, 2019

I think I’m a buttigieg bro

k3vin k., Saturday, 30 March 2019 20:08 (five years ago) link

dang, mayor pete. solid answer

Karl Malone, Saturday, 30 March 2019 20:16 (five years ago) link

Buttigieg seems to be using the exact same book of meaningless platitudes as Beto now.

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Saturday, 30 March 2019 21:21 (five years ago) link

xp but he said, and i quote, 'our conservative friends'???.... lmao what! smh! gtfoh! uh, mayor butt, you done fucked up! cancelled! bye bitch! thank u, next! *does the leftist victory dance*

shoulda zagged (esby), Saturday, 30 March 2019 21:30 (five years ago) link

Buttigieg seems to be using the exact same book of meaningless platitudes as Beto now.

― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Saturday, March 30, 2019 5:21 PM (ten minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

So far you seem to be the only one who finds meaningless in Buttigieg's rhetoric.

Plus, I'd rather have platitudes than idiotic populism but to each their own I suppose.

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 30 March 2019 21:33 (five years ago) link

That dastardly populism lurking in every dark corner, eh?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D27V6icX4AUyYF5.jpg

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Saturday, 30 March 2019 21:51 (five years ago) link

Platitudes are populism

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Saturday, 30 March 2019 21:54 (five years ago) link

Just because it's centre left doesn't mean it can't be populist

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Saturday, 30 March 2019 21:55 (five years ago) link

But let centrists just push technocracy and "I'm a wonk" stuff and let's enjoy living in hell forever

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Saturday, 30 March 2019 21:56 (five years ago) link

look I didn’t love obama but there’s something to be said for intelligence and competence, which which effuses from buttigieg like a fragrance

k3vin k., Saturday, 30 March 2019 22:05 (five years ago) link

Lots of centre/centre left I would describe as idiotic populism too, Biden is going to run on that for sure. At this point I don't really care on where you stand on the spectrum of the Dems' big tent, moreso are you smart about what you propose.

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 30 March 2019 22:06 (five years ago) link

Well, arguably Biden has run on that his whole career.

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 30 March 2019 22:11 (five years ago) link

effuses from buttigieg like a fragrance

effuses from buttigieg like a fragrance

effuses from buttigieg like a fragrance

Gunther Gleiben (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 30 March 2019 22:13 (five years ago) link

that was my most alfred post

k3vin k., Saturday, 30 March 2019 22:15 (five years ago) link

The right had an easier time connecting its philosophy and values to politics because it is pretty much "be white and collect hymens".

Yerac, Saturday, 30 March 2019 22:34 (five years ago) link

look I didn’t love obama but there’s something to be said for intelligence and competence, which which effuses from buttigieg like a fragrance

― k3vin k., Saturday, March 30, 2019 3:05 PM (thirty minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Obama's 08 campaign was also very populist

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Saturday, 30 March 2019 22:37 (five years ago) link

i think Beto saw milo question his dominance in meaningless platitudes just upped his game

Let us be clear: we will not be defined by our fears or the smallness of our differences; we will instead be known by our ambitions, our aspirations and the resolve, the creativity, the service and sacrifice by which we will have achieved them.

— Beto O'Rourke (@BetoORourke) March 30, 2019

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 30 March 2019 22:50 (five years ago) link

Let us be clear:

⅋ (crüt), Saturday, 30 March 2019 23:14 (five years ago) link

Weirdly easy to imagine W saying that

rob, Sunday, 31 March 2019 00:01 (five years ago) link

He's also running for El Paso High School Jr Class Treasurer.

Yerac, Sunday, 31 March 2019 00:18 (five years ago) link

I didn’t love obama but there’s something to be said for intelligence and competence

very smart to leave all those new drone & surveillance powers in the hands of DJT

also doing as little as possible with yr full Dem control in '09-10

btw in '88 Dukakis opened one of the debates saying the election was about "competence" and guess how that turned out

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 31 March 2019 01:18 (five years ago) link

Mayor Pete can use semicolons!

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 31 March 2019 12:41 (five years ago) link

The fact that all this shit is going on at the border at El Paso and Beto has not become a clear voice/leader re: all this shit going on at the border at El Paso is imo the biggest strike against him as a presidential candidate. Again, don't have a huge problem with him, any more than most, but his campaign so far as been fully coasting on ad hoc platitudes as ineffectively as Clinton's was. All reaction, no strong indication of direction.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 31 March 2019 13:58 (five years ago) link

Well...it’s not at all surprising that among these 24 or however many candidates there seem to be only two whose stated priorities give a “strong indication of direction.”

d'ILM for Murder (Hadrian VIII), Sunday, 31 March 2019 14:18 (five years ago) link

this is depressing

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/31/us/politics/elizabeth-warren-fundraising.html

But as the first fund-raising deadline arrives at midnight on Sunday, Ms. Warren — who last year was widely considered a would-be front-runner — finds herself in a political vise. Her rivals on either ideological flank will raise substantially more money in the first quarter than she does, and her focus on policy has not yet translated in the polls.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Sunday, 31 March 2019 17:50 (five years ago) link

I never donate this early, even if I already know who my favorites are, but I just threw her a few bucks.

Johnny Fever, Sunday, 31 March 2019 18:20 (five years ago) link

This early on the polls mean nothing, unless it is name recognition. The media is searching for storylines so they know what to say about candidates. Counting money raised is a cheap, easy story to write - let's hope it doesn't get twisted into the storyline that Warren is a struggling, failing candidate. Still, I may throw a few dollars into the kitty, so she can pay campaign staff and build an organization.

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 31 March 2019 18:27 (five years ago) link

I just threw in for her.

DJI, Sunday, 31 March 2019 18:27 (five years ago) link

Ms. Warren’s most immediate challenge, though, may be money. She raised only $299,000 in the first day of her candidacy, far below the $5.9 million and $6.1 million Mr. Sanders and Mr. O’Rourke brought in for the same period and also less than Ms. Harris. In emails to supporters, asking for as little as $3, her campaign flatly says her rivals will post “fund-raising figures we won’t be able to match.”

And after demonstrating little capacity to raise cash online, Ms. Warren effectively doubled down on small-dollar contributions, announcing last month that she would no longer hold big-money fund-raisers or seek wealthy donors to bundle hundreds of thousands of dollars in checks.

She cast it as a decision long in the making that will offer her more time with voters. In truth, she made the choice only after a robust debate inside her campaign that led to the resignation of her finance director, Michael Pratt, who strenuously objected to the idea.

At a Valentine’s Day meeting at Ms. Warren’s Washington condominium that began with a heart-shaped cake but soon grew heated, Mr. Pratt noted that campaigns often collapse when they run out of money and pleaded with her not to cut off a significant cash stream, according to Democrats briefed on the conversation. He pointed out that winning over wealthy fund-raisers across the country helped build networks that could translate into political support, not just checks.

But Mr. Pratt lost the argument to two of Ms. Warren’s closest advisers, Dan Geldon and Joe Rospars, who made the case about standing apart from the field and freeing up her schedule.

this is the depressing part, imo. it's not that she's not doing better at raising money, it's that winning candidates are forced to suck up to rich douchebags as a litmus test

Karl Malone, Sunday, 31 March 2019 18:45 (five years ago) link

If your fundraising approach is fundamentally inconsistent with your political message, then you are undermining yourself in both directions. I think Warren made the right choice, but would have been better off making that choice much earlier, so it could have been a keynote of her campaign from the start. This way it looks more like an afterthought.

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 31 March 2019 19:16 (five years ago) link

I contributed $25 to Warren. She needs to stay viable at least up to Super Tuesday and the Great Winnowing.

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 31 March 2019 19:29 (five years ago) link

...which feels like 20 years away at this point.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Sunday, 31 March 2019 19:43 (five years ago) link

The fact that all this shit is going on at the border at El Paso and Beto has not become a clear voice/leader re: all this shit going on at the border at El Paso is imo the biggest strike against him as a presidential candidate.

He apparently visited the bridge detainment center this weekend and has been talking about immigration...stuff at his recent rallies.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 31 March 2019 20:01 (five years ago) link

we need leadership in this country. the time for fear is over, the time for bold action on immigration has arrived. and that is that action? it's you, all of you out there, speaking together and being heard. and we hear you loud and clear, and we will hear you even louder and clearer tomorrow, if that is the path that you choose. but that path is up to you - and all of us.

Karl Malone, Sunday, 31 March 2019 20:04 (five years ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/QFy9l1Q.gif

Karl Malone, Sunday, 31 March 2019 20:05 (five years ago) link

Pretty much.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 31 March 2019 20:07 (five years ago) link

Sorry for amp: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.elpasotimes.com/amp/3314197002

"Let's remember that every single one of us — including those who are just three or four blocks from here, detained under the international bridge that connects us with Mexico, behind chain-link fence and barbed wire — that they are our fellow human beings and deserve to be treated like our fellow human beings."

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 31 March 2019 20:11 (five years ago) link

No man’s land: How Trump Tower became Chicago retail’s biggest failure

About a year before the 2005 groundbreaking for Trump International Hotel & Tower, Trump Organization executive Charles Reiss met the late Chicago real estate broker Bruce Kaplan and his colleague, Leslie Karr. The Trump family, Reiss said, wanted advice on how to market the retail space that would face the Chicago River at the tower’s base.

“The way it’s designed now, it’s never going to lease up,” Karr recalls telling Reiss. The roughly 70,000-square-foot deck’s 10-foot ceilings, undulating facade and sunken location would be too awkward to attract customers, she said.

...

“It’s a dreadful space,” said Karr, who is now senior vice president for retail at SVN Chicago Commercial. “You could have some kind of luxury call center there, or maybe a high-end med spa, but not at the prices they were asking.”

A decade after the tower opened in 2009, it has just one retail tenant, a salon that occupies an enclosed 3,400-square-foot suite above the hotel lobby. The entire deck-level space remains empty, its blank beige walls on full display for the millions of tourists who stroll along the river each year. No part of it has ever been leased, according to Trump Organization tax appeal documents filed in Cook County and analyzed by The Real Deal.

grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 31 March 2019 20:31 (five years ago) link

Whoops - wrong thread.

grawlix (unperson), Sunday, 31 March 2019 20:32 (five years ago) link

Did we get to the fact that Warren was convinced by the Pod Save guys to do the DNA test?

Simon H., Monday, 1 April 2019 11:28 (five years ago) link

All the Dem candidates as Michael Scott is the most accurate thing I have ever seen. pic.twitter.com/ZHE45KHMvR

— Will Dammann (@WillDammann) March 22, 2019

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 1 April 2019 11:32 (five years ago) link

Did we get to the fact that Warren was convinced by the Pod Save guys to do the DNA test?

Where in the world did you hear that? If they ever mentioned it, it was probably a throwaway joke. They roundly said it was a boneheaded thing to do after she made a big deal about the results.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 1 April 2019 13:14 (five years ago) link

pic.twitter.com/w2h8k8zBAA

— Dollars Horton Official (@crushingbort) March 31, 2019

Simon H., Monday, 1 April 2019 13:16 (five years ago) link

Doesn't scan as a joke to me.

Simon H., Monday, 1 April 2019 13:19 (five years ago) link

if Elizabeth Warren can be "convinced" to do something based on a throwaway comment on a podcast then maybe she shouldn't be president after all.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Monday, 1 April 2019 13:23 (five years ago) link

pod save is a russian psyop i will not be reading replies to this post

mr greta t. gremlin (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 1 April 2019 13:25 (five years ago) link

I mean, they worked for Obama and have a rep among establishment Dems (deserved or not) as canny political operatives, so it's not a huge surprise. xp

Simon H., Monday, 1 April 2019 13:26 (five years ago) link


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