pro: get to eat 50 lbs of delectable mushrooms, fried maybe and/or roasted, with the totally plausible cover story that you're doing it for the protein
― mick signals, Saturday, 30 March 2019 01:32 (seven years ago)
mushrooms are the best. it still irks me that portobello placed 2nd in the shrooms poll though because that is the worst shroom
― rip van wanko, Saturday, 30 March 2019 01:33 (seven years ago)
My father was a horticulturist and used to pick mushrooms in the woods and farms near our house. I was always afraid of a potential mistake that would end all of our lives
― Dan S, Saturday, 30 March 2019 01:33 (seven years ago)
I couldn’t abide shaggy manes and puffballs but my parents’ general love for mushrooms made me love them in the end
― Dan S, Saturday, 30 March 2019 01:40 (seven years ago)
Portobellos, shittakes, give them all to me
― brimstead, Saturday, 30 March 2019 01:51 (seven years ago)
mushrooms, they're good
― gbx, Saturday, 30 March 2019 01:53 (seven years ago)
All of the above.
Feng et al, 2019. The association between mushroom consumption and mild cognitive impairment: a community-based cross-sectional study in Singapore. J Alzheimer Dis, (Preprint), pp.1-7.Darmadi-Blackberry et al, 2004. Legumes: the most important dietary predictor of survival in older people of different ethnicities. Asia Pac J Clin Nut, 13(2), pp.217-220.Grosso et al, 2015. Nut consumption on all-cause, cardiovascular, and cancer mortality risk: a systematic review and meta-analysis of epidemiologic studies. A J clin nut, 101(4), pp.783-793.
Personally, I've transcended concerns about protein, and actually look at ways to reduce protein intake for longevity and protection from metabolic disorders. Soon, I will be a being of light.
McCarty, 2014. GCN2 and FGF21 are likely mediators of the protection from cancer, autoimmunity, obesity, and diabetes afforded by vegan diets. Medical hypotheses, 83(3), pp.365-371.Le Couteur et al, 2016. The impact of low-protein high-carbohydrate diets on aging and lifespan. Cell mol life sci, 73(6), pp.1237-1252.Castaño-Martinez et al, 2019. Methionine restriction prevents onset of type 2 diabetes in NZO mice. FASEB J, pp.fj-201900150R.
― bouncy, trouncy, flouncy, pouncy (Sanpaku), Saturday, 30 March 2019 02:00 (seven years ago)
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Friday, 5 April 2019 00:01 (seven years ago)
mushrooms I guess not really being a protein source are disqualified, I love nuts/seeds but have to go with legumes
― Dan S, Friday, 5 April 2019 00:10 (seven years ago)
Looks like peas and bean sprouts have twice as much protein per serving compared to shrooms. Always considered peas a veg. But they're a legume
― The immortal Hydra Viridisimma (outdoor_miner), Friday, 5 April 2019 00:49 (seven years ago)
I feel embarrassed about mushrooms now. :(
― I've been starving them, teasing them, singing off Leee (Leee), Friday, 5 April 2019 00:52 (seven years ago)
They have a v meaty texture when cooked and they rule so. . .
― The immortal Hydra Viridisimma (outdoor_miner), Friday, 5 April 2019 01:04 (seven years ago)
glad you included mushrooms
― Dan S, Friday, 5 April 2019 01:06 (seven years ago)
quorn is made from mycoprotein so not too far away from mushrooms - just wish vegan quorn was more readily available
― kolarov spring (NickB), Friday, 5 April 2019 01:10 (seven years ago)
haven't heard of quorn
― Dan S, Friday, 5 April 2019 01:27 (seven years ago)
It’s a meat alternative derived from some sort of fungus and it’s kind of like chicken in it’s basic form, but they make a whole range of alternative products with it. Unfortunately they use egg as a binding agent, but in the last few years they’ve trialled a vegan version which tastes p much the same. So it’s somewhat vexing as a vegan that they don’t just lose the egg permanently. It’s easily the most well-known vegetarian food brand in the uk, but they do sell it in other countries too
― kolarov spring (NickB), Friday, 5 April 2019 05:51 (seven years ago)
Quorn never sat well with me digestively
― findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Friday, 5 April 2019 06:56 (seven years ago)
same. it also tastes kinda weird to me
― ⅋ (crüt), Friday, 5 April 2019 07:04 (seven years ago)
Works really well in Chinese style dishes. Soaked up sauce like a sponge.
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Friday, 5 April 2019 07:31 (seven years ago)
quorn is good but dry. beans are amazing and I have enjoyed my recent increased nut intake, but nonetheless mushrooms are one of the greatest things about our planet
― ogmor, Friday, 5 April 2019 07:57 (seven years ago)
shiitakes seem to retain a good texture, even when overcooked by fresh fool in the kitchen.
― calzino, Friday, 5 April 2019 08:11 (seven years ago)
Love Quorn. Definitely prefer the chicken style quorn over the beef though. Actually I think that's true of all fake meats. I've never really found a beef one I've liked. I'm not talking about sausages there are plenty of those I like but the beef equivalent of the quorn pieces.
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Friday, 5 April 2019 08:56 (seven years ago)
Seitan. I hated it until I disregarded the preparation instructions usually given. I let mine sit an hour after mixing in water, then I cut it up in cubes and cook it in the crock pot overnight. When I'm ready to eat it, I grill it. No rubbery texture whatsoever. And it's low in fat!
― William Wants a Doll (I M Losted), Friday, 5 April 2019 09:47 (seven years ago)
Last time I tried Quorn I don't think any of it was vegan, they were still using battery farmed eggs even.
― Armand Frippanino (Noel Emits), Friday, 5 April 2019 13:24 (seven years ago)
Tommy's, a neighborhood restaurant in Cleveland Heights for 40 years that has a large vegetarian menu, has a BBQ seitan sandwich that is outstanding. They serve it on a brioche roll with a couple of bread-and-butter pickle slices on it.
― Plinka Trinka Banga Tink (Eliza D.), Friday, 5 April 2019 13:55 (seven years ago)
I used to eat seitan straight out of the package.
― Yerac, Friday, 5 April 2019 13:57 (seven years ago)
Oh! Sounds killer, esp w/brioche. Was thinking of making BBQ tempeh this weekend for weekday sandwiches, but may have to make a batch of seitan instead. xpostIs jackfruit a protein source? Tried a prefab BBQ jackfruit once and it did nothing for me
― The immortal Hydra Viridisimma (outdoor_miner), Friday, 5 April 2019 14:08 (seven years ago)
beans/legumes, seitan, and tofu are all good, i'm not vegan/vegetarian anymore but i enjoy all those. mushrooms are good too but i think they are a little overrated, especially fancy mushrooms which aren't significantly better than common white button mushrooms imo
with few exceptions i think the soy meat analogs (e.g. soy hot dogs, TVP, soy chicken, tofurky, etc.) are all terrible even though i thought otherwise when i was vegan
― marcos, Friday, 5 April 2019 14:28 (seven years ago)
jackfruit is not really a protein source but texture-wise it is remarkably like pulled pork
― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine), Friday, 5 April 2019 15:07 (seven years ago)
I love mushrooms so much. I was watching that French version of "Farmer Wants a Wife" and like the ones where they have mushroom farmers on. I didn't even think about there being people who just cultivate mushrooms.
― Yerac, Friday, 5 April 2019 15:18 (seven years ago)
Vegan Quorn hasn't shown up in the US AFAICT. I'd like to try it, though with a vomit bucket at hand.
― Kardashev scale sex tape (Sanpaku), Friday, 5 April 2019 15:34 (seven years ago)
Same here. Looks like the US advent of Quorn has been a bit sabotaged by Big Veggieburger.
― mick signals, Friday, 5 April 2019 16:09 (seven years ago)
The use of BEST PROTEIN SOURCE in the poll question is too damned ambiguous, if you ask me. Best at providing protein? Best tasting? Best value? Best behaved?
― A is for (Aimless), Friday, 5 April 2019 18:01 (seven years ago)
Don't nitpick, we all know falafel is the best.
― pomenitul, Friday, 5 April 2019 18:03 (seven years ago)
Don't nitpick
Nevertheless...
― A is for (Aimless), Friday, 5 April 2019 18:06 (seven years ago)
Vegans don't nitpick, they nutpick. (That sounds less pleasant than it should.)
― Armand Frippanino (Noel Emits), Friday, 5 April 2019 18:11 (seven years ago)
i like the new veggie burgers. beyond meat burger is dece
― findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Friday, 5 April 2019 18:13 (seven years ago)
https://toriavey.com/images/2011/01/Falafel-10-640x480.jpg
C'mon, admit it. You know it's true.
― pomenitul, Friday, 5 April 2019 18:15 (seven years ago)
looks like falafs on oatmeal imho (no argument with your premise!)
― The immortal Hydra Viridisimma (outdoor_miner), Friday, 5 April 2019 18:40 (seven years ago)
legumes are the clear winner here.
thinking about foul mudammas rn
― findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Friday, 5 April 2019 18:41 (seven years ago)
Is that chunky hummus?
― I've been starving them, teasing them, singing off Leee (Leee), Friday, 5 April 2019 19:25 (seven years ago)
it's different in different places but it's essentially usually fava bean stew (sometimes a dip). i like it with lots of olive oil, onion, garlic, tahini, lemon, cumin, and aleppo pepper sauce
― findom haddie (jim in vancouver), Friday, 5 April 2019 19:30 (seven years ago)
also it can have some chickpeas in it which i do sometimes
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Saturday, 6 April 2019 00:01 (seven years ago)
I was today years old when I found out that pulse can mean something other than a heartbeat.
― StanM, Saturday, 6 April 2019 03:46 (seven years ago)
Don't trouble yourself over this. I only learned that in much of the world pulse was used when doing literature searches on health effects of beans/legume/pulses.
― Kardashev scale sex tape (Sanpaku), Saturday, 6 April 2019 04:22 (seven years ago)
I have no idea of this is legit but it definitely lets me feel smug: https://getpocket.com/explore/item/here-s-even-more-evidence-that-plant-protein-is-better-for-you-than-animal-protein?utm_source=pocket-newtab
― Charlotte Brontesaurus (Leee), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 01:10 (six years ago)
I've been looking through some vegan recipes (both desserts and savory meals) and I see cashews (soaked and processed) a lot as a substitute for cream or cheese or butter(?). I have nothing against cashews but have never had them on hand (apparently they're expensive), so what are some alternatives? Could I use (soaked) chickpeas to similar effect?
― Garry Shambling (Leee), Saturday, 1 August 2020 21:34 (five years ago)
Because of the fat content of cashews, they are able to mimic creamier foods when processed in the right way.
Tastewise, you're fine with soaked chickpeas, perhaps with some sunflower seed or oil mixed in.
In terms of texture, particularly for things like cream or cheese or butter substitution, cashews or another tree nut-based protein is probably a better way to go.
I am not a vegan or even a vegetarian, but was for many years, and lived/worked in a vegan cooperative where I had to cook massive amounts of food for 80+ people once/week. Taught me a lot about these things!
― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Saturday, 1 August 2020 21:41 (five years ago)
I'd also not use chickpeas as a sub in a dessert, but what do I know— I'm slightly grossed out by the idea of black bean brownies, which is apparently a very normal vegan thing.
― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Saturday, 1 August 2020 21:45 (five years ago)
thats not normal, ive never done that shit in my life
― methinks dababy doth bop shit too much (m bison), Saturday, 1 August 2020 22:00 (five years ago)
and i have done some v vegan shit in my 17 years of veganity
I'm not vegan, so for one recipe I just went with yogurt, but maybe I'll keep an eye out for raw cashews the next time I go shopping. Until then, I think that I'll try out the chickpeas in a vegan cheese/sauce recipe (although the rest of the recipe is centered around chickpeas too).
lol black bean brownies are great (with the right recipe)! You really have to be searching out for them to taste them (they all but disappear under the chocolate/sweeteners), though they will give you a denser texture. (I've tried other atypical ingredients in my brownies, avocados being the least successful.)
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― Garry Shambling (Leee), Saturday, 1 August 2020 22:28 (five years ago)
I never voted in this because whadda I know I eat steak and burgers like 4 days a week but I feel confident the major protein source for people after the next couple decades could very well be fungus
― sound of scampo talk to me (El Tomboto), Saturday, 1 August 2020 22:34 (five years ago)
I have a flourless cookie recipe that uses black beans and they’re delicious, really fudgey and black beans are tasteless. Fuck chickpea cookies, though, absolutely disgusting.
Leeeeee, Trader Joe’s or a bulk foods will have decent prices on raw cashews. They’re a really excellent sub for cream. I used to make a baked potato scallopini thing using cashew cream and it was rich and delicious as fuck. The cashews produce a lovely milk or cream that you can flavor how you wish bc raw cashews are pretty tasteless. I think silken tofu is also a good sub for thicker things like cheesecake.
― just1n3, Sunday, 2 August 2020 00:47 (five years ago)
Second Justine (hi J!) on silken tofu...I used to make a mean silken tofu Chocolate pudding that was the perfect texture and divine. Was the Belle of the ball whenever I made it.
― blue light or electric light (the table is the table), Sunday, 2 August 2020 01:09 (five years ago)
+1 for silken tofu for chocolate pie, great way to sneak in protein to a dessert for #gainz
― methinks dababy doth bop shit too much (m bison), Sunday, 2 August 2020 02:12 (five years ago)
Hi tabes <3
― just1n3, Sunday, 2 August 2020 08:21 (five years ago)
we use cashews instead of parmesan when we make pesto, works out really nicely
― Boris the Spreader (NickB), Sunday, 2 August 2020 14:58 (five years ago)
it's not the fat content of cashews, it's thickening power bcuz of their starch that make it such a prefect and widely used subsitute in vegan cooking imo. plus they don't have a lot of character, so like tofu, can be used as a blank canvas for which to infuse flavor? garbanzos won't give you the same effect. but using them depends on what you're making i guess
― sacra fames scampos (outdoor_miner), Sunday, 2 August 2020 15:40 (five years ago)
Good shout Justine! I've put it on my TJ shipping list.
― Garry Shambling (Leee), Sunday, 2 August 2020 16:23 (five years ago)
I've seen a few places extolling the virtues of soaking anything from beans, grains, to nuts, to improve digestibility. Is that just woo woo? I only ever soak dry beans, and haven't had problems with gassiness if I don't soak e.g. some quinoa.
― Garry Shambling (Leee), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 15:56 (five years ago)
i don't think it's fake but every mexican cookbook i've looked at is like we don't soak beans herei looked this up recently and found this explanation https://www.healthline.com/nutrition/how-to-reduce-antinutrients , seems like a legitimate way to get rid of the water soluble stuff that bothers some people
― contorted filbert (harbl), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 16:01 (five years ago)
Its wise to soak and wash quinoa, as that reduces saponins and makes them less bitter.
For legumes, when discarding the soak water there's a slight reduction in the α-galactosides like raffinose and stachyose. This may help with bloating/flatulence in those who don't eat legumes regularly, but the same α-galactosides are fermentable fiber that provide most of the benefits to gut microbiome.
The main plausible reason to soak nuts is to soften them. Cashew milk recipes often call for soaking overnight before blending (in the same water), and the product can be used as either dairy milk sub or ingredient in vegan cheeze making.
I haven't encountered a plausible reason to wash whole grains or bulgur wheat in the literature. As in there aren't digestive enzyme inhibitors that will elute into soak/wash water that aren't also disseminated through the grain. Of course soak them before cooking them or using them in tabouli.
Most people who talk about digestibility in health food communities aren't very qualified to have an opinion. The idea that one must soak them to improve digestibility is akin to the idea that human digestion relies on enzymes only present in raw vegetables. In general, its not true.
― Who will station the ox there? (Sanpaku), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 16:15 (five years ago)
Most people who talk about digestibility in health food communities aren't very qualified to have an opinion.
― brimstead, Wednesday, 12 August 2020 18:00 (five years ago)
lol
― methinks dababy doth bop shit too much (m bison), Wednesday, 12 August 2020 18:15 (five years ago)