2020 Democratic presidential primary

is there any indication that if Gravel got into the debates, he'd be good?

I honestly have no idea.

He should let the kids dictate his talking points via earpiece.

OK, just stop it

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/politics/fl-ne-wayne-messam-announces-presidential-campaign-20190327-story.html

we're just a step away from a field of city council members

Stacey Abrams adviser on talk of her being Joe Biden’s VP: “What makes it particularly exploitative is that Biden couldn’t be bothered to endorse Stacey in the gubernatorial primary. Now he wants her to save his ass. That’s some serious entitlement.” https://t.co/3g1DeOQXvL

— Matt Viser (@mviser) March 28, 2019

I dont get why she’d do this. Does she think he’s the best candidate?

there was some talk about it on the alt-right thread, is there a reason why people here are so dismissive of Yang? is it because he appeals to the 4Chan/Joe Rogan type or is his platform that bad. all I know about him is the UBI/automation stuff which sounds pretty good to me

I think it’s the rogan/4chan stuff

There is a ton of writing about how and why technocrat/SV conceptions of UBI are insidious, and Yang seems to fit the bill

https://medium.com/s/free-money/universal-basic-income-is-silicon-valleys-latest-scam-fd3e130b69a0

And how his rhetoric is about policy fixes, not building political power from the bottom. It’s very top down/technocratic

dunno if it was posted here in the past two weeks but this new york mag profile of abrams is a treat and won me over as a big fan
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/03/stacey-abrams-whats-next.html

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution called her management style “aloof and uncommunicative,” and she doesn’t seem to have abandoned her tendency to help the other children by telling them the answers. Last year, Time’s Molly Ball reported on how, soon after getting to the Georgia house, Abrams passed “a helpful note, and then another, and another,” to a Republican lawmaker struggling to explain his own regulatory measure, until “finally he sat down next to her and let her explain it for him.” She then voted against the legislation, telling her surprised colleague, “Look, I think your bill is a bad idea. I just don’t think it should be bad law.”

ha!

that rules

the NYT's 'hey we're going to start talking about pete buttigieg now' piece today mentioned that a recent Quinnipiac poll found him tied with Elizabeth Warren for 5th place. i feel simultaneously happy for buttigieg and disappointed that warren hasn't picked up steam yet

warren is the best candidate in the race imo

not as sharp as Birds of Passage

disappointed that warren hasn't picked up steam yet

disappointed but not surprised

it's March 2018. At this point Sarah Palin was a spot on McCain's tumor.

er, 2019

lol don't scare me like that

whatever, it's 2009

It's 1963. It's 1964. It's 1957. It's 1962.

Butt it all behind you

it’s December 21 2012 and has been for the last 75 months

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wait does al think elizabeth warren is as sharp as birds of passage or not?

vice versa, and more narco

This was an incredibly difficult thing to do, but something that felt necessary. It took awhile before I found the words and the support that made me feel like this was finally a story I could tell. https://t.co/Sr5Go3xuTe

— Lucy Flores (@LucyFlores) March 29, 2019

I feel like Biden needs to completely enter private life and become a furry.

"become"

just the start, I hope

I was lucky to serve at a time when Americans would honor service members no matter how they felt about US policy.

It wasn’t that way for the Vietnam generation. Better late than never, we owe each of them a heartfelt Thank You and Welcome Home. #VietnamWarVeteransDay

— Pete Buttigieg (@PeteButtigieg) March 29, 2019

I thought Mayor Pete was supposed to be well-read? Doesn't he know the spitting-on-returning-soldiers thing is a myth?

...I now see that many, many people have pointed this out.

milkshake butt

Seriously, fuck Joe Biden.

Yeah I linked that (slightly ambiguously, I now realize) earlier. I think we can reasonably expect more of those stories to come out.

No, you linked the Flores story a few posts above - this is a much longer, top-to-bottom teardown of the dude's entire career.

oh shit, my bad

but yeah his record is just remarkably awful

He was a good veep, because veeps have no power and do almost nothing.

Buttigieg claiming Viet Nam vets returned home to little appreciation is not A THING. It's run of the mill "I'm running for president" stuff. It's about as important as a flag pin.

run of the mill or not, it's ahistorical bullshit

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/13/opinion/myth-spitting-vietnam-protester.html

Please point out the part of his tweet where he mentioned spitting.

He said "It wasn’t that way for the Vietnam generation," which is largely true. By the time the war began winding down, there were no parades or professional sports salutes, etc etc. They came home quietly, without fanfare, to high unemployment and undiagnosed PTSD.

That's worse than how they come home now.

You've rubbed your own context all over it.

(xp)

...is it? Really? Current veterans are still pretty fucked! One could reasonably assume the popular narrative/lie is what he's referring to there. It could use some clarification, at least.

Anyway, Nathan Robinson at Current Affairs read his book and has, as usual, many thoughts.

Another thing to consider is that a sizeable portion of Viet Nam vets were drafted and never wanted to be there in the first place. The armed services are all volunteer in every conflict since, and yes, as many pitfalls as the VA has now, it was worse in the 1970s. Still, anyone serving today signed up for it.

But please, do continue to overreact to a post he made about one honorific day that most of us didn't even know existed until he tweeted about it.

Jeezus, Nathan Robinson just made me want to stab myself in the eye with a spork.

His statement in the tweet still strikes me as sketchy, regardless of the noble intent

When we elect a president who campaigns on an “oppose the troops” platform we’ll let you know