2020 Democratic presidential primary

as a Latino, "Latinx" has always struck me as the name of a Mexican synth pop act.

it would be a good one at that

the x is clunky when spoken tho it makes sense written.

https://www.vox.com/2019/3/27/18282417/indiana-abortion-pete-buttigieg-clinic-south-bend

I think I already discussed this but can we just say latins?

A non-Latin friend winced in December when I said "Hispanics" in conversation casually. That's what we still use here, even the young 'uns.

i'm from the '70s, where the collective nouns were much wincier

I think I already discussed this but can we just say latins?

― Van Horn Street, Wednesday, March 27, 2019 9:30 PM (eleven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

no

A non-Latin friend winced in December when I said "Hispanics" in conversation casually. That's what we still use here, even the young 'uns.

― recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, March 27, 2019 9:33 PM (nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i'd be interested to see polling data on who uses what. heritage nationality is still #1. i def hear hispanic more than latino, but i've heard the former more from viejos than from my students.

From Simon's linked Vox article:

Buttigieg, who supports abortion rights, helped resolve an earlier zoning controversy around the clinic in a way that satisfied both reproductive rights advocates and opponents. As mayor, he won’t be directly involved in deciding the WWHA lawsuit. But the suit could be a test of how Buttigieg handles the issue of abortion on a national stage...

uh

that “could” struck me as well

i like cory booker's support for 'baby bonds' ("His American Opportunity Accounts Act would give each child born in the United States a savings account with $1,000. Each year, until the child turns 18, the government would deposit as much as $2,000 into that account. The size of the annual payments would depend on the child’s family income, with lower-income families receiving larger checks.")

shoutout to sandy darity and derrick hamilton

i regret to inform you that we will have to cancel mike gravel

Unfortunately, since leaving the spotlight in 2008, Gravel has sought attention in somewhat darker places. After endorsing an independent investigation of 9/11 that same year, Gravel became a frequent speaker on the 9/11 truth circuit, including regular appearances on Truth Jihad, a podcast by known Holocaust denier Kevin Barrett which is funded by alt-right "philanthropist" Ron Unz. Barrett promotes the conspiracy theory that 9/11 was perpetrated by the State of Israel with the complicity of American Jewry.

Gravel has also been a speaker at events organized by supporters of Lyndon LaRouche, the neo-fascist conspiracy cult figurehead and perennial Presidential candidate who died last month at 96 and was well-known for his antisemitism. According to a November 2015 article in LaRouche's Executive Intelligence Review, Gravel spoke at a LaRouche event in October of that year, where he said he was "delighted to be associated with the LaRouche organization." Gravel also participated in a LaRouchePAC town hall in 2017.

link: https://jewishworker.org/mike-gravel-antisemitic-associations/?fbclid=IwAR2gUlWRUb0UZcY6Nag_pvXJ6Re-2peeYQWRcA1eDtWbT5Ce6neruhyVuA8

I don't understand the posting and uh of the Buttigieg article. What did I miss?

It's fun when you try to call someone hispanic or latino(a) while in their own country. You crazy gringa!

The Graven campaign’s responses are good. Impressive kids.

And the Jewish worker is to be commended for reproducing it in full.

Gravel, like most old American leftists, has def associated with a ton of sketchy characters. Which I would absolutely care about if he were a real candidate or pushing any of those ideas.

I think of the Gravel canidacy as only sort of being about the kooky senator and mostly about Gen Z entering the conversation.

It’s sorta weird Gravel traveled all the way to Iran to speak to antisemites though.

he seems like the kinda guy who says "yes" to everything tbh. such as the time some literal teenagers asked if they could take over his social media

“stand here for several minutes and then go throw a rock in that lake...no, say nothing.”

I’d rather one of these teenagers be allowed on the debate stage to critique american imperialism. It’s their generation that will be asked to die in these conflicts

he seems like the kinda guy who says "yes" to everything tbh. such as the time some literal teenagers asked if they could take over his social media

he said no at first, then they sent him a "memo" and he changed his mind lol

is there any indication that if Gravel got into the debates, he'd be good?

I honestly have no idea.

He should let the kids dictate his talking points via earpiece.

OK, just stop it

https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/politics/fl-ne-wayne-messam-announces-presidential-campaign-20190327-story.html

we're just a step away from a field of city council members

Stacey Abrams adviser on talk of her being Joe Biden’s VP: “What makes it particularly exploitative is that Biden couldn’t be bothered to endorse Stacey in the gubernatorial primary. Now he wants her to save his ass. That’s some serious entitlement.” https://t.co/3g1DeOQXvL

— Matt Viser (@mviser) March 28, 2019

I dont get why she’d do this. Does she think he’s the best candidate?

there was some talk about it on the alt-right thread, is there a reason why people here are so dismissive of Yang? is it because he appeals to the 4Chan/Joe Rogan type or is his platform that bad. all I know about him is the UBI/automation stuff which sounds pretty good to me

I think it’s the rogan/4chan stuff

There is a ton of writing about how and why technocrat/SV conceptions of UBI are insidious, and Yang seems to fit the bill

https://medium.com/s/free-money/universal-basic-income-is-silicon-valleys-latest-scam-fd3e130b69a0

And how his rhetoric is about policy fixes, not building political power from the bottom. It’s very top down/technocratic

dunno if it was posted here in the past two weeks but this new york mag profile of abrams is a treat and won me over as a big fan
http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/03/stacey-abrams-whats-next.html

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution called her management style “aloof and uncommunicative,” and she doesn’t seem to have abandoned her tendency to help the other children by telling them the answers. Last year, Time’s Molly Ball reported on how, soon after getting to the Georgia house, Abrams passed “a helpful note, and then another, and another,” to a Republican lawmaker struggling to explain his own regulatory measure, until “finally he sat down next to her and let her explain it for him.” She then voted against the legislation, telling her surprised colleague, “Look, I think your bill is a bad idea. I just don’t think it should be bad law.”

ha!

that rules

the NYT's 'hey we're going to start talking about pete buttigieg now' piece today mentioned that a recent Quinnipiac poll found him tied with Elizabeth Warren for 5th place. i feel simultaneously happy for buttigieg and disappointed that warren hasn't picked up steam yet

warren is the best candidate in the race imo

not as sharp as Birds of Passage

disappointed that warren hasn't picked up steam yet

disappointed but not surprised

it's March 2018. At this point Sarah Palin was a spot on McCain's tumor.

er, 2019

lol don't scare me like that

whatever, it's 2009

It's 1963. It's 1964. It's 1957. It's 1962.

Butt it all behind you

it’s December 21 2012 and has been for the last 75 months

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