Seizing back control: The ILX lol brexit is how we're all gonna die thread.

Amazing

Ref 1.5 most popular, Customs Union second, neither meaningfully stronger than MV2, let's ask for a 5 year extension while we thrash this thru

Victory for option A

Brexxxit is Hard

going to truncate a tweet pasted into the Graun liveblog, for my amusement:

Speaker has walked out suspending proceedings until the indicative votes are counted. But Tories are furiously pointing to the mace

strongly favouring option xyzzzzx atm watching this muck

Knew you'd come around gyac.

Can we re-open the previous thread those were more innocent times

May genuinely mad at the SNP for saying she’s failed at providing leadership, lol

vote options T, A, N, K, and S

genuine scenes here

The rule should be that if you see Gapes, he should ha e to speak

he'll only eulogise options M, I, L, and K

The SNP abstained on the Customs Union and could have carried it. Twats.

Probably in return for Labour not supporting the revoke amendment. Not enough horses traded.

Second referendum more popular than May's deal.

A Labour front-bencher may've resigned did they say?

TIG, 2 Lib Dems & 4 labour MPs voted against Corbyn’s deal.

10 TIG votes went against the customs union motion and could have passed it.

xp Melanie Onn, maybe? Voted against Beckett amendment.

Lol at Boles and Kinnock having no mates

take the kinnocks bowling, take them them bowling

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V58dOl84MaI

Labour MPs who abstained or voted against ⁦@peoplesvote_uk⁩ pic.twitter.com/TsoORlSVZu

— Alastair PEOPLE’S VOTE Campbell (@campbellclaret) March 27, 2019

Wait, what did the Brits think was going to happen in the indicative votes? Of course none got a fucking majority, if that was going to happen it would be done already. The point was to get a ranking and then put the better ones the to a preference procedure.

— Colman (@colmanareilly) March 27, 2019

I think the organisers of the vote understand this well. The chance of the median mp or journocrat getting it, well...

— Alex Harrowell (@yorksranter) March 27, 2019

bill fucking cash says that tonight's indicative votes like "the whelk stall being run by the whelks".

whelks in the other kinds of tank

i mean, i know you are bill but what am i

Reading the results in detail, Labour could have got a number of those well over the line.

the idea wasn't to get anything over the line it was to set up a runoff afaict?

So if I understand the situation, Theresa May doesn't have enough support to resign successfully.

— Liam Kirkaldy (@HolyroodLiam) March 27, 2019

wait i just found out the EU banned memes, i am bill cash's whelk now

the idea wasn't to get anything over the line it was to set up a runoff afaict?

Would Ken Clarke's option or the PV win the runoff, do we think? Presuming it's just those two in the running now

lol what scenes what scenes bercow for british taoiseach

Clarke could win the runoff if the SNP support it; difficult to see what soft votes are left to be switched behind PV.

xp how would you feel if I told you Bercow is an Arsenal fan

id believe u

Bercow, Corbyn AND Comrade Alphabet - a coalition of short-passing connoisseurs

Is Clarke's a leave-in-name-alone option, or would it result in concrete changes to people's lives

none of these votes count til Monday, so no point worrying about it now. Customs union solves NI I think? Maybe? Anyway, here’s Bercow on Arsenal fan tv.
https://youtu.be/ifQxEurjiDo

customs union would negate need for hard border is my understanding

none of these votes matter as such if we can trust in May's obduracy

'round here usually when the executive ignores the law it's at least a little bit clandestine and remote from the legislature, like CIA black sites or waging undeclared drone wars, but May ignoring what Parliament says Brexit means would be pretty uh ballsy

its explicit that these are non binding and exploratory in nature, i think the intention really is to sincerely see what might achieve consensus

insisting that it bind would narrow the freedom, as whipping would almost certainly exert a greater influence

whether parliament has the will if consensus majority were achieved to force may to execute is doubtful tho?

If it gets to the point that there are sufficient votes to compel May to follow parliament it will be exceedingly bizarre if a VONC can’t be won. Which means it’s a cert.

"Why won't the Labour leadership support a referendum?" is already becoming the "when's International Men's Day?" of Brexit discourse, I see.

Stephen Kinnock, the son of a former EU Commissioner and husband of the former Danish PM, abstained on the referendum vote. Bet that's going to be fun at Christmas.

I’m really stuck on something. The Labour position...is it really as split as it seems or is there a looooooong maneuver happening?

— wheatus (@wheatus) March 28, 2019

wheatus............ thank,s

xp Labour have proposed motions with a 2nd ref at least three times now and none of them have passed. Totally accurate comparison.

Honestly think the 2nd ref crowd should throw in behind soft Brexit options and revoke; if you get the house to support a soft Brexit (which I think is entirely plausible), the next argument is surely “why bother at all?”

"Why won't the Labour leadership support a referendum?" is already becoming the "when's International Men's Day?" of Brexit discourse, I see.

"Why aren't the English allowed to celebrate St George's Day the way the Irish celebrate St Patrick's Day?"

the idea wasn't to get anything over the line it was to set up a runoff afaict?

Yes, which makes it even more surprising just how close some of them got to outright majority.
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How does this runoff work? Is the least popular options dropped off and then we go again or what?

Why would that change anything? MPs were already not restricted to only voting for just one thing (though I'd be fascinated to see how many did)

they want to do ranked preferences on Monday too. don't ask me why they didn't do that yesterday

Last night's results might embolden a few people and get them off the fence, plus it's highlighted the best Stop No Deal options. A second bite at the Cherry Amendment might get it a few more votes as well.