"oh you don't get me I'm the end of the union": lol brexit is how we're all gonna die

To be fair a lot of it is written down, just not all in one document with the word constitution written a the top. Something that definitely has pluses and minuses

it's all different fonts for one thing

Some is written on goat, some on calf.

constitutions are generally products of modern democratic states created by some rupture after the model of the US. britain is a kingdom, which has reformed bit by bit in good whig history style from rank despotism towards our current enlightened, liberal democratic, constitutional monarchy (ahem)

Tom Watson must have been pumping iron with some alt-right types, oh no sorry I forgot he was a complete twat when he was a fat fucker as well.

so you're saying sovereign authority is vested in whomever manages to keep her head screwed on while presuming to exercise it xp

did u just assume the UK's sovereignty 😯

you think not having a written constitution is bad and then you think about some fucking antonin scalia sophistry around a centuries old sentence and you're not so sure

some have greatness thrust opon 'em

Theresa Maylvolio, is there anything there

theresa mayweather

see the main thing I don't grasp is why anyone took the result of the national brexit opinion survey seriously let alone legally binding on a successor parliament & government, around here legislation by initiative has to have the final text of the bill and a fiscal note attached

but apparently if you ever accidentally ask the people how they feel over there it's suddenly part of your treasured democratic institutions or what have you

not to wear out my faux-naïf welcome

I wouldn’t worry about that, we have deems doing it daily.

tbh its otm but afaict theyll pretend its a ridiculous statement i think perhaps theyve been inculculated

xp i was waiting for that!

im not faix naif ive not the eyebrows for it as anyone whos met me irl knows

So did everyone else just get this email?

You’re receiving this email because you signed this petition: “Revoke Article 50 and remain in the EU.”.

Dear (real name),

The Government has responded to the petition you signed – “Revoke Article 50 and remain in the EU.”.

Government responded:

This Government will not revoke Article 50. We will honour the result of the 2016 referendum and work with Parliament to deliver a deal that ensures we leave the European Union.

It remains the Government’s firm policy not to revoke Article 50. We will honour the outcome of the 2016 referendum and work to deliver an exit which benefits everyone, whether they voted to Leave or to Remain.

Revoking Article 50, and thereby remaining in the European Union, would undermine both our democracy and the trust that millions of voters have placed in Government.

The Government acknowledges the considerable number of people who have signed this petition. However, close to three quarters of the electorate took part in the 2016 referendum, trusting that the result would be respected. This Government wrote to every household prior to the referendum, promising that the outcome of the referendum would be implemented. 17.4 million people then voted to leave the European Union, providing the biggest democratic mandate for any course of action ever directed at UK Government.

British people cast their votes once again in the 2017 General Election where over 80% of those who voted, voted for parties, including the Opposition, who committed in their manifestos to upholding the result of the referendum.

This Government stands by this commitment.

Revoking Article 50 would break the promises made by Government to the British people, disrespect the clear instruction from a democratic vote, and in turn, reduce confidence in our democracy. As the Prime Minister has said, failing to deliver Brexit would cause “potentially irreparable damage to public trust”, and it is imperative that people can trust their Government to respect their votes and deliver the best outcome for them.

Department for Exiting the European Union.

https://isbritaingreatagain.com/

This Government wrote to every household prior to the referendum, promising that the outcome of the referendum would be implemented.

the cheek of calling me faux naif when ye are governed by that!

That’s not a naïf. This is a naïf.

lol

So did everyone else just get this email?

only those of us who signed the petition

i guess it's our right to be horribly condescended-to by tories in repayment for thirty seconds' action

Huh, recently read Paine giving Burke the business about the lack of a British constitution and just assumed that the issue had been sorted sometime in the subsequent two centuries. I guess we all know what happens when we assume.

Did the government promise to uphold the result? I thought the referendum was touted as an advisory thing only.

That petition is the definition of futile politics

Chuka on when Corbyn saw him at the leaders meeting in May’s office: “he looked at me like some sort of... disease”

— Matt Chorley (@MattChorley) March 26, 2019

i thought they were bound by agreement to debate anything that reached a certain amount of signatures?

they sent a follow-up email saying they'd debate it on...april 1st

they must think this is all such a capital wheeze

i signed it but never got either email

i just looked though and its still going up and seems likely to reach at least 6m by then. Would be hilarious if it reached 17.5.

xxp it gets a Westminster hall debate, not one in the main chamber.

David Edgerton dismisses the "overblown claims" of that old "British Genius" nugget that popped up yesterday. Lots of postwar politicians including Wilson talked a mountain of shite about what Britain had invented, when the truth is that while 20th century new tech like jet engines, radar, antibiotics, nuclear research were competently developed in the UK in the war years, they absolutely were not invented here. Micheal Faraday was a true genius tbf.

This petition = Britisher genius

I didn’t sign the petition either because the government haven’t given a shit about ignoring 16 million actual votes, but I don’t disrespect people who did. The response will have made them angry. Good.

Haven't seen a Brexiteer lose a minute of sleep over this.

I admit I don’t have your surveillance capabilities, but all the last minute panicking & deciding to vote for May’s deal after months saying it was “vassalage” and similar doesn’t exactly look like the sort of five dimensional chess we’ve come to expect from them.

A few Brexiteers were hinting they could vote for May's deal last week if the DUP came round.

That’s true but they would be saying that in the full knowledge that the DUP aren’t going to vote for this deal now or ever.

Ultimately the ERG don't have enough votes, they had to use an excuse. My point is this petition isn't driving their turn towards May's deal

second image here

Some blue shirts candidates right here.#FarRightBrexit pic.twitter.com/8jtV7c38Se

— Will Black (@WillBlackWriter) March 26, 2019

Not saying it is, but i do think it means somethingthat Revoke is being discussed daily and being worked into amendments that have a chance of passing. I think it’s indicative that the political will might be shifting that way finally?

xp God yes, can’t believe I left the blueshirts thing out yesterday!

"Jo Cox False Flag"

fucking lunatics.

This thread is getting too long. Someone think of a witty new thread title.

Remainer minister: “We’re going to have a final reckoning during the leadership contest, and the losers will go because our differences are now irreconcilable. It will be a Bucks Fizz moment – who gets to still call themselves Bucks Fizz when the band breaks up?”

— Tom Newton Dunn (@tnewtondunn) March 27, 2019

Their Cameron always lied.

had to get a reference to the og Bobby Gee to thread.