US Politics March 2019: “I can’t say I’m happy. I can’t say I’m thrilled”

Part of the charges were related to campaign finance violations and lying to congress about trump tower moscow

He’s not just going to jail for taxi medallions

it is weird. I mean the guy is more Teflon than Reagan now.

― akm, Monday, March 25, 2019

Reagan averaged over 50 percent approval for most of his presidency and was personally popular like his party wasn't.

limmy rules. his take is right until we make it not right.

i guess in favor of resist twerps, theyre at least kicking against assholes, possibly distracting opposition, and i think being ridic overly optimistic in good faith. It’s not always a straight self-interested grift in the case of several, tho definitely not for all.

Twerp resistance haters are sort of interesting. Profiles seem to point a lot to “haters of establishment that FAILS US,” “haters of clintons,” “haters of women,” “haters of privilege,” “haters of _ANY_ support of status quo,” “haters of dems,” and even “haters of losers.”

I think the preferred one to me “haters of failure to recognize the valuable causes”

We definitely need to steer more in the direction of encouraging putative allies to tighten up their perspectives/messages rather than unburdening our would-be conquerors the effort of dividing us. I mean, our 'narcissism of small differences' game is on point, but maybe it's worth considering whether that might be a pointless act of self-annihilation, idk.

Idk. It seems russiagate was a catastrophic distraction there should be some soul searching here

Here's an oxymoron to contemplate: GOP hairshirt.

It seems russiagate was a catastrophic distraction

catastrophic? oh, puh-leeeze spare us. what marvelous things were denied us because the nation was too distracted by russiagate? what catastrophe has overtaken us that was not born of Trump's election, rather than our distraction from... remind me what were we supposed to be doing instead?

Treesh bb are you having a time again

necessary esp given the gop buy-in for trumps hardcore oligopoly model.

russiagate has some dimensions. still it was necessary to ask 1 was it real, 2 should it be criminal and was it, and 3 should it disqualify pres? Answers for resist are yes, yes and yes. Answers from mueller are, so far, 1 yes, 2 only for a few flunkies and russians, and 3 ?!?

play on imo.

the idea that Mueller would find proof of Donald Trump, who does not use a computer, writing something like "YES I WILL DROP SANCTIONS IN EXCHANGE FOR HILLARYMAILS. BEST, [EKG-like signature]" was always a pipe dream, especially since Jr. leaked proof of himself doing just that and got away scot-free

there should be some soul searching here

pvmic

https://www.vox.com/2019/3/25/18280122/congress-investigate-trump-tax-return

by the way, even if they *HAD* found that proof, wouldn't that just lead to months of "So what, it isn't a crime!!! He's just willing to do what it takes to win!! He's a winner!!!", which I think would raise my blood pressure even more

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/03/mueller-non-russia-trump-scandals-congress/585643/

remind me what were we supposed to be doing instead?

organizing voters and describing socialism to them

^^^ otm, also pushing for voting reform everywhere i.e. vote by mail not the dumb "election day holiday" idea

i confess that part of my desire to see this vermin squashed is not just revulsion at trump’s disgusting and abusive and actually harmful core qualities, but wanting to remove the social and political impulses to install stronger larger fash policies and extractions. and also to deny his type greater access to actual levers of power. systems can fail worse than this. If you think it cant be worse, you are mistaken. If you think there’s a better oppty to eradicate it than now, i actually fear you may be wrong.

indeed!

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/435681-trump-campaign-sends-memo-asking-tv-producers-challenge-past-guests-who?#_=_

Honestly this is such a gift to his campaign

I guess, but are any of the current dem candidates the ones that focused on collusion?

Funny you should ask. Charles Pierce is following a few candidates:

Put simply, anyone who's telling you that the Democrats are in danger of overreaching in their criticism of El Caudillo del Mar-a-Lago is selling you wooden nutmeg. In my first weekend following the 2020 election around, I heard general questions and answers about the president*'s character. (Pro tip: he has none.) And I heard a lot of talk about prying the presidency loose from the brigade of grifters, temp workers, and clucks he's installed in those executive branch jobs he's deigned to fill. But, mostly, I heard dialogue about a lot of problems and possible solutions that stretch beyond the green rooms of cable news—an environment, I admit, not unknown to me, and even less unknown to Cory Booker, truth be told. For example, remember criminal justice reform? Remember the carceral state? It's still out there as an issue.

no shit

Remember the carceral state?

never seen someone identify his audience so clearly in so few words

I had to talk a white male acquaintance off a Facebook ledge yesterday after he moaned that Donald Trump was re-elected.

Put simply, I'm really fucking tired of some of you guys on this thread implicitly begging Trump to win so you can return to moaning about how awful things are.

Those of us who are brown and gay in a state that Ron DeSantis barely won thank you for the leftist solidarity.

before the internet, you'd bury the lachrymose drivel in a spiral bound notebook. Congratulations.

White House spokesman Sarah Huckabee Sanders said Monday that media figures and Democrats who accused President Trump of working with Russia were guilty of treason — and could face the death penalty.

“They are literally, the media and Democrats have called the president an agent of a foreign government. That is an accusation equal to treason, which is punishable by death in this country,” she said on NBC’s “Today” show.

The fuck

Oh maybe she is just saying the dems accused trump of treason. The paper of record (nypost) is suggesting she is saying schiff and co committed treason

No, "media figures and Democrats who accused President Trump of working with Russia were guilty of treason — and could face the death penalty" means "media figures and Democrats who accused President Trump of working with Russia were guilty of treason — and could face the death penalty."

"Anyone I don't like and that has said mean things to me...BOOM! DEATH PENALTY!"

what's new guys ?

I think at this point charging Schiff with treason would be an interesting test of our country's health.

It’s not cool

You know that this would never happen right guys

Like I'm not saying inflammatory language as such isn't alarming but uhh it's also what the Trump admin does daily and we're not going to wake up to guillotines tomorrow

yeah I'm just saying it'd be interesting for them to try

guys isn't it weird how everyone, including basically all mainstream media, is taking this as a total exoneration of Trump, despite the fact that all we got was a 4-page summary written by a guy specifically installed to clear the President's name

Honestly this is such a gift to his campaign

people are gonna forget about this in 2 weeks

he's going to keep reminding them

She’s a piece of shit but that’s obviously not what she meant, she was emphasizing how serious the accusations were. lol that it’s the nypost though.

yeah, her line was "the media and democrats have called the president an agent of a foreign government...that is an accusation that is equal to treason, which is punishable by death in this country."

people are gonna forget about this in 2 weeks

― frogbs, Monday, March 25, 2019 5:26 PM (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yup. or at least the republicans will stop doing their victory dance if they have any sense. it's clear from barr's letter that the report is full of evidence that trump obstructed justice. it's in their interests to move on.

p.s. schiff should be primaried from the left. he fucken sucks.

We should probably give up on 2020 as a lost cause, given that something good happened for trump 19 months before the election and he’ll be steering a tight ship with the utmost competence for the rest of his term.

Clinton's final "exoneration" in the emailgate cost her the election because it brought back up ugly associations. If the Pubs are wise, they'll take their victory lap and move on.

Dems should not let it happen tho. Make Barr and Mueller testify. Get the whole report released. Continue with your investigation.

Lol Joe

This is getting pretty... funny I guess?

JUST NOW: McConnell blocks Schumer measure calling for Mueller report to be made public

— Steven Dennis (@StevenTDennis) March 25, 2019

Goddamn Trump called for it to be public. Put the fucker out there and stfu.

Myrtle speaks:

No collusion. No conspiracy. No obstruction. It’s good news that we can conclusively set aside the notion that the president and his team had somehow participated in Russia’s interference in our electoral process.https://t.co/OAfiDBeZ8d

— Leader McConnell (@senatemajldr) March 25, 2019