Doctor Who 2008: Sontarans cometh, RTD Ood 'ave 'im etc.

I mean, she is the Doctor. Or that's I thought...

Given the 'hello, sweetie' and the hands-on and the 'your eyes are so much younger!' and the 'you gave my your sonic screwdriver' and, i think, some spoilers that i read, i assumed she was some kind of future love-interest.

DO I HAVE TO REPEAT FUTURE WIFE AGAIN? OK, I WILL.

FUTURE WIFE.

I EVEN GAVE YOU A BIG HINT TOWARDS THE BOOK 'THE TIME TRAVELLER'S WIFE' WHICH HAS A LOT OF THE SAME PLOT.

I will stop shouting now.

She could be a re-Jenny-ration (she kept saying she tried to bring the Dr back to just after he'd met her, which would be about right). Her being the Doctor didn't occur to me but it would explain why she has the screwdriver. She also mentions having been "to the end of the universe" with him, but surely she's not the Master. Mind you, if she was any of these wouldn't the Doctor be able to sense her being a timelord?

And yeah - Colin Salmon was telling the girl that her real world was all a lie and her dreams were real, so her brain is meant to be a security system.

Ha, you're right that it's not really likely/possible, but her being the Master would ROCK!

Future wife is a definite possibility, although flirting with everyone was kind of her schtick. The plots of this episode and the book aren't THAT similar*. Presumably she can't be from that far in the future, she seemd to recognise Tennant's Doctor, rather than some future incarnation, and I'm assuming Tennant won't be hanging around for that much longer.

The alternative is that the Doctor spoilers himself and realises that he never actually meets her, and this is more misdirection and she's actually a villain. Wouldn't explain the sonic screwdriver mind.

Jenny would be the worst of all possible answers.

*Although the novel has a character called Alba OMG DO YOU SEE???

Like, there is NO WAY they are going to let that Tardis book just sit around without someone opening it.

Yeah, so if someone reads the book, does the timeline in which she meets the dr, gets married etc. all disappear? i.e. she is his future wife but that never happens for him.

Or maybe the Doctor decides not to let that timeline happen, after reading the book and finding out about horrible stuff that happens because he met her.

Or maybe she sold him some crisps and he dropped his sonic screwdriver on the way out.

I'm assuming the Alex Kingston character dies and that the Doctor feels in some way responsible for this and goes back to meet her, causing the whole affair thing; thus timeloop.

The child is very obviously the AI for the library's main systems and presumably is the Cal thing the the Mr Lux character is concerned about retrieving. She's also very obviously downloaded Donna and the others she's "saved".

Donna, by all indications, won't survive the series. Which is a pity as I think she's been the best of the nu-Who companions. But I wouldn't have expected them to be able to keep Catherine Tate for more than a series anyway.

Alex Kingston has been to the end of the universe with the Dr, she talked to him with the psychic paper like the Face of Boe did, and she's flirting with him a lot. She's Captain Jack.

Sorry, I'm just being silly now.

Revelations and speculations aside, I thought this was a pretty great episode -- but it did feel a little rushed and even "stagey" -- maybe as if Moffat was writing for the studio sitcom audience. Having said that, I'd rather have an ideas-full rushed episode than another Ood/Titanic non-starter.

Also, as Matt points out: Shadow = Scary. Living Skeleton Spacesuit with Four Shadows = Holy Fuck.

And that first shot of the skull inside the space suit gets my vote for "Nu-Who moment most likely to have scarred me severely as a child" of the four series so far...

i think she is his future biographer

I do not much care for that curly-hairded flirtface.

oh, i kinda liked her a lot. she is more self-assured than either rose or martha, without the self-lampooning seriousness of donna.

if i was a kid i wld totally be having nightmares abt the skeleton in a space suit zombie shadow monster!!

Perhaps, Alex K is the little girl and also she is the Rani.

it wld be awesome if flirtface were some incarnation of captain jack - she does act like him! i doubt she is the dr's wife, if only b/c i do not want the dr to have a wife

Captain Jack is already immortal, having a regeneration as well would just be greedy.

Incidentally does she have a name yet?

yeah i know she's not cpt jack, but she's like him, a lot.
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professor river song!

i think we shld read into that name

http://www.rossanthony.com/R/images/riverdance.jpg

Before they cangd it, the next episode was going to be called River's Run.

cangd = changed

Could she actually be a future Doctor? Or Time Lady (Rani/Romana/other)?
A baddie?

She is an intergalactic massage therapist.

who else has ever called him 'pretty boy'??

I loved Donna's reaction.

I know Donna will not end up as repetitive crap abstract sculpture face but I really don't want her to.

Like The Catherine Tate Show?

I watched some of that on YouTube & did not understand it.

Watching "Arc of Infinity." Killing off all the time lords and wiping out Gallifrey was kind of stupid/short-sighted decision. It's like getting rid of Starfleet; you lose the central and authoritative body for the main character(s) to belong to and react with/against.

On the other hand, Gallifrey was never that interesting as a place or a society when shown on-screen: it seems to work better in absentia.

Gallifrey was only ever fanwank, and it only puts Doctor Who in danger of becoming Star Trek.

Gallifrey destroyed? Well maybe, JUST MAYBE after an adventure where an entire planet's worth of people have been "saved" to a data store The Doctor will slap himself on the head and say HANG ON THAT'S EXACTLY THE SAME AS THE MATRIX ON THAT THERE PLANET I SPEND SO MUCH TIME MOPING ABOUT and realise all he has to do is press whatever Big Red Universal Reset Button he used in that adventure again.

Happened to Optimus Prime in the Transformers comic as well, and that was in like 1987.

matrix was kept in a fireproof safe, and an off-planet backup was sent off every week too. so this could work.

IT SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING THE CREATOR OF THE DALEKS MIGHT DO.

Ahem.

HEY WHO TURNED OUT THE LIGHTS

NELLY FURTADO

Captain Jack is already immortal, having a regeneration as well would just be greedy.

I wouldn't put it past him to have a sex change though.

was dr who geeking out with a friend who is way more drwhoniverse than i am and he posited that prof riversong is the doctor's very very last companion. he pshawed the wife theory but was into my captain jack theory if only b/c wldn't that be cool and yeah captain jack has gotta get bored of that body one day - also he somehow becomes face of bo, so how does that happen, some kind of regeneration something-or-other

Face of bo - what happens when an immortal is decapitated maybe?

|O_O|

i guess it's more like |~___~| rly

face of boe was pregnant at some point too so...