The long overdue _Blade Runner

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and yet batman begins is otherwise very unbladerunnery

― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:19 (twenty years ago)

I was going to say, that story simultaneously makes me go "Cool!" and then think, "Er, wait."

Though they do both have Rutger Hauer. ;-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:21 (twenty years ago)

and yet batman begins is otherwise very unbladerunnery

very true, but the scene seemed so close

― kingfish ubermensch dishwasher sundae (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:23 (twenty years ago)

hauer pauer

― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:24 (twenty years ago)

lol at people finally figuring out Kael & Ebert are deeply flawed film critics, despite being "good" writers

― timmy tannin (pompous), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:27 (twenty years ago)

On the DVD for Magnolia, there's a bit where Anderson screens Network for the crew as inspiration. So maybe it's just a Hollywood ritual where the director makes everyone watch his favorite movie before shooting begins, whether it has any point or not.

― Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:27 (twenty years ago)

lol at people finally figuring out Kael & Ebert are deeply flawed film critics, despite being "good" writers

um... you think we just figured this out right now?

― Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:28 (twenty years ago)

I was in the Bradbury Building AND Union Station a couple weeks ago.

― LOL Thomas (Chris Barrus), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:29 (twenty years ago)

Also, one of the many things i like about BR is the effects work, which still doesn't look dated, unlike the supposedly more "advanced" shit CGI we get 10-20 years later

― kingfish ubermensch dishwasher sundae (kingfish 2.0), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:29 (twenty years ago)

lol at people finally figuring out Kael & Ebert are deeply flawed film critics, despite being "good" writers

i was criticizing her writing, smuggo

― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:31 (twenty years ago)

ARGH fuck a critic disquisition, BACK TO FILM.

http://www.itsvery.net/BladeRunner/Tyrell%20Office02.jpg

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:32 (twenty years ago)

Also, one of the many things i like about BR is the effects work, which still doesn't look dated, unlike the supposedly more "advanced" shit CGI we get 10-20 years later

-- kingfish ubermensch dishwasher sundae (jdsalmo...), April 17th, 2006.

otfm! like 2001 and the first two Alien movies, it really holds up amazingly compared to other movies in the genre, then and now.

― latebloomer: Ambassador With Training In Righteousness (latebloomer), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:33 (twenty years ago)

has anyone evaluated scott as an action director?

I didn't care for Black Hawk Down that much, but it wasn't because of Scott - if anything his work was the one thing I liked about it.

― LOL Thomas (Chris Barrus), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:33 (twenty years ago)

I WANT MORE LIFE

― geoff (gcannon), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:35 (twenty years ago)

FUCKER

― geoff (gcannon), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:35 (twenty years ago)

More human than human

― latebloomer: Ambassador With Training In Righteousness (latebloomer), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:35 (twenty years ago)

well, seems they show up on every film thread and are spoken of in largely positive terms, this is a rare one where people seem to see through their bs

xpost

sorry, Ned, others brought it up

― timmy tannin (pompous), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:35 (twenty years ago)

Also, one of the many things i like about BR is the effects work, which still doesn't look dated

As I said upthread: "The visuals. God, what visuals. They do not age, which is point of discussion in itself. This movie should look dated, but it doesn't. Why?"

Maybe because, apart from the special effects it employs, it borrows so much from noir that it doesn't age? And that the city shots are so borrowed from every other futurescape ever (Metropolis especially) that they're more like amalgams of futurity than original visions?

― Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:37 (twenty years ago)

also the color scheme, lighting, smoke, etc. make it a lot harder to see the seams in the opticals.

― latebloomer: Ambassador With Training In Righteousness (latebloomer), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:39 (twenty years ago)

Surely, but that's a stroke of genius by itself. The future will have smog, because the present certainly does. There are many nights when I look at a hazy Chicago skyline and think, "That looks so Blade-Runner-y."

― Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:42 (twenty years ago)

but this is all...academic

― geoff (gcannon), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:44 (twenty years ago)

i still gotta see black hawk down

what would this movie have been like if tony had directed it?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:49 (twenty years ago)

hoo boy

― latebloomer's jazz oddysey brought to you by kellog's corn flakes (latebloomer), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:51 (twenty years ago)

but this is all...academic

I don't know what you mean. Please explain why talking about this movie is academic.

― Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:52 (twenty years ago)

on the character-actor front, blade runner features probably the best work of the late brion james.

http://www.soniguales.com/fotos/LeonKowalski.jpg

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:54 (twenty years ago)

hi kenan fyi when i said you sounded like an ass i was referring not to your "alien" comment but to this: "I once broke up with a girl because she didn't understand the dove"

i mean, i know, comic exaggeration and all, but it's still comes from a pretty ass-y place.

― amateurist0, Monday, 17 April 2006 05:55 (twenty years ago)

xpost: in fact there's a whole bunch of people whose best movie is blade runner: sean young, edward james olmos, rutger hauer, william sanderson. daryl hannah? probably.

― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, 17 April 2006 05:57 (twenty years ago)

Ok, how about this -- I once broke up with a girl when I was 20 years old because we had a two-hour conversation about Blade Runner during which she made it abundantly clear to me that she was not as smart as I am, or indeed most people I knew at the time. This was not a long or significant relationship. Better?

― Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 17 April 2006 06:00 (twenty years ago)

it's a line from this movie.

― geoff (gcannon), Monday, 17 April 2006 06:01 (twenty years ago)

And also, seriously amst, coming from an assy place shouldn't bother you as much as you pretend.

― Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 17 April 2006 06:02 (twenty years ago)

kenan sometimes it's hard to believe that you're not putting us on, at least a little bit.

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 17 April 2006 06:13 (twenty years ago)

what?

― Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 17 April 2006 06:13 (twenty years ago)

http://www.launchcommit.com/images/65.jpg

― amateurist2, Monday, 17 April 2006 06:13 (twenty years ago)

why don't we start a thread about what a dick i am and keep the one and only Blade Runner thread pure and unsullied?

― Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 17 April 2006 06:16 (twenty years ago)

ah, damnit... too late.

― Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 17 April 2006 06:16 (twenty years ago)

i used to say this was my favorite movie, now i watch it less and less often because it seems to get worse with repeat viewings. there's a fair amount of ham-fisted stuff in this movie. i guess as i get older, i find myself getting turned off of movies that are unnecessarily cruel to the characters. i used to think sebastien and clarice and chiu were lovely and poetic and now i get the same icky feelings watching them as i do when i watch spike jonze relentlessly abusing his characters in "being john malkovitch".

― vahid (vahid), Monday, 17 April 2006 06:21 (twenty years ago)

then again, misanthropy has put me off of philip k dick's work for a long, long time now so i guess i shouldn't be surprised.

― vahid (vahid), Monday, 17 April 2006 06:22 (twenty years ago)

to the comment about this being the greatest sci-fi movie ever, i'd say probably not. i always think of bladerunner as connected to that moment in my life right after high school when i suddenly decided there was nothing better that film had to offer than film noir, westerns and japanese samurai movies. as you can probably guess, i thought girls were pretty confusing then. i feel like i've outgrown that and i guess outgrowing bladerunner is somehow connected.

― vahid (vahid), Monday, 17 April 2006 06:26 (twenty years ago)

anyway it's funny that kenan brought up "alien" upthread because i'd put it in the list of "sci fi movies better than bladerunner".

(in no particular order)

1. alien
2. john carpenter's "the thing"
3. la jetee
4. videodrome
5. the old "war of the worlds"
6. back to the future
7. terminator
8. close encounters of the third kind
9. total recall
10. clockwork orange
11. 2001
12. solaris

― vahid (vahid), Monday, 17 April 2006 06:31 (twenty years ago)

13. dawn of the dead

― vahid (vahid), Monday, 17 April 2006 06:32 (twenty years ago)

Alien is a horror movie.

― Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 17 April 2006 06:32 (twenty years ago)

14. robocop
15. buckaroo banzai
16. mad max
17. tron
18. the black hole
19. sleeper
20. alphaville

― vahid (vahid), Monday, 17 April 2006 06:35 (twenty years ago)

ok anyway please don't come to me with this loser "buckaroo banzai isn't scifi it's a spoof" or "la jetee is an art movie" crap.

― vahid (vahid), Monday, 17 April 2006 06:35 (twenty years ago)

if you can make a good case for "alien isn't scifi it's horror", and you can do it in a way that i can't just turn around to say "blade runner isn't scifi it's film noir" then ... well, forget it, because you can't.

― vahid (vahid), Monday, 17 April 2006 06:37 (twenty years ago)

i always think of bladerunner as connected to that moment in my life right after high school when i suddenly decided there was nothing better that film had to offer than film noir, westerns and japanese samurai movies. as you can probably guess, i thought girls were pretty confusing then. i feel like i've outgrown that and i guess outgrowing bladerunner is somehow connected.

I think you just insulted eveyone who likes almost every movie ever, and also told them that they have small penises.

― Gilbert O'Sullivan (kenan), Monday, 17 April 2006 06:40 (twenty years ago)

21. repo man

― gear (gear), Monday, 17 April 2006 06:43 (twenty years ago)

xpost nah, that wasn't my intention. i just think caters to a particular strain of male film buff immaturity.

gear - yes!!

― vahid (vahid), Monday, 17 April 2006 06:45 (twenty years ago)

22. starship troopers

― gear (gear), Monday, 17 April 2006 06:46 (twenty years ago)

i expect a chorus of "no!" quickly ; (

― gear (gear), Monday, 17 April 2006 06:46 (twenty years ago)

is there a verhoeven thread? i like "robocop" and "basic instinct" better.

― vahid (vahid), Monday, 17 April 2006 06:47 (twenty years ago)

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