San Francisco and what to do in it

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omg haha, golden ear = golden era...

gygax! (gygax!), Sunday, 6 July 2003 18:56 (twenty-three years ago)

Yes, Bottom of the Hill BBQs! AmAnSet and Film School and Tarentel today. I am maybe going. I should make up my mind soon.

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Sunday, 6 July 2003 19:03 (twenty-three years ago)

For veggie stuff, so far the best is the Jasmine Tea House... Chinese place that delivers.. they do soy versions of all their dishes, and they all worked quite well.

donut bitch (donut), Sunday, 6 July 2003 19:04 (twenty-three years ago)

I went to the Beauty Bar on my last visit, and it was actually pretty quiet.. no electroklash krackwhores nor any cocaine.

donut bitch (donut), Sunday, 6 July 2003 19:05 (twenty-three years ago)

If you guys are going to be there on a Monday, there's this place called Los Rios(?), Del Rios(?).. that at least USED to have a $1 cover, $1 drinks special on Monday nights only. I think it's near Cesar Chavez or something... Now, THAT place was super packed and brimming in Hipster Concentrate.

donut bitch (donut), Sunday, 6 July 2003 19:07 (twenty-three years ago)

el rio - mission/cesar chavez

gygax! (gygax!), Sunday, 6 July 2003 19:26 (twenty-three years ago)

I have never paid a cover at Beauty Bar (and have been several times over the last 6 months) and have never ever seen any overt cocaine use either - not that I would be as judgmental about it either - young people in drugs and sex shockah. I danced my ass off there one night to Lisa Lisa mixed into New Order mixed in Michael Jackson and had fun. Also, I've been going to The Makeout Room for like 10 years and I'm bored to tears there at this point. There is no significant difference to me between the people that go there and any other Mission bar - but then again I'm clearly not as sensitive to and critical of clientele as some poeple.

As for Cesar, the drinks are expensive, but the food is not especially and it's not always loud in there - maybe on Friday or Saturday nights, but I've had very quiet conversations there and the bartender/owner is very nice. As for Foreign Cinema, I actually haven't eaten there in years, but I had a great steak there once and the novelty of it has not worn off for me.

When I'm staying in SF for a weekend I mostly eat at El Farolito, Puerto Allegre, Atlas, Ti Couz and sometimes Ramblas or Andalu. These are all fine and fun places although I'm sure somebody will condemn who eats there and the "detritus" that hangs around there trying to be cool, when clearly the coolest person is the one criticizing everyone and everything because they aren't "real" San Franciscans, etc vomit.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Sunday, 6 July 2003 19:42 (twenty-three years ago)

Spencer in bitter not-letting-it-go shockah!

Atlas Cafe is excellent, that place does so much business on the strength of how good the food is (sandwiches, nothing fancy), amazing since it's really out of the way (not a very foot-travelled street). Ti Couz is a great standby and the crepes are at least as good as you'll find in France. Actually the Mission is filled with great restaurants.

Stolenbus, even though there may sound like a lot to do in Berkeley, I think that most of it can be done easily in one day. It's a tiny town and everything is close to everything else.

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Sunday, 6 July 2003 19:56 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm definitely bitter about San Francisco, and it's got nothing to do with you Anthony. I'm sorry and I'll let it go now.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Sunday, 6 July 2003 20:19 (twenty-three years ago)

Must second this: Tamale Lady!!!

Show up at Zeitgeist around 8:00 on any given night, and she will come to your table, feed you an excellent meal for next to nothing, dispense free advice, hug you and call you honey. Best substitute mom EVAH.

Sean Thomas (sgthomas), Sunday, 6 July 2003 21:29 (twenty-three years ago)

tell that tamale lady to get some rubber tires, please! waiting for her to trudge through zeitgeist's loose gravel floor with her cart just scraping along is time consuming to say the least.

JasonD (JasonD), Sunday, 6 July 2003 21:34 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh, pish posh, Jason. Waiting is what the *beer* is for!

Sean Thomas (sgthomas), Sunday, 6 July 2003 21:39 (twenty-three years ago)

(Besides, if she got rubber tires then she'd be all upscale and social-climbing and shit, and we'd have to hate on her.)

Sean Thomas (sgthomas), Sunday, 6 July 2003 21:41 (twenty-three years ago)

Musee Mecanique is definitely extremely cool. that was a place we always took folks when it was on the cliffhouse.

don't forget Merritt's in oakland for good homestyle cooking... chicken and waffles is THE SHIT!
m.

msp, Monday, 7 July 2003 15:19 (twenty-three years ago)

i'm not sure if you're going to be in the east bay during the weekend, but you have to go to Berkely on Sunday morning. across the street from the Ashby BART station (where they have a killer flea market with a real drum circle, not that hippy shit you find in Golden Gate park, and you can buy some crazy swords) is a Thai Temple. every Sunday until about 1.30 or 2, they have Thai brunch. it's the best thing in the entire world. everything is super duper cheap, and the servings are huge. 4$ gets you a heaping serving of your favorite Thai food. The mangos and sticky rice are to die for!!!

Hahaha! That's my (current, until September) hood, Jason. Frankly, that drum circle, or any drum circle I have thus far seen in my brief time in Berkeley, grate like stainless steel on gorgonzola. That said, there are some great swords, and some decent looking used stereo equipment, too (note to future self). The thai temple is key, though I'm not sure why they still serve tofu in the non-veggie section. Make the right choices, and the food is definitely worth it.

Also - the aforementioned comic shop by Mod Lang (British Indie Music? At Extortionate Prices? You should have seen the look on my face) is called Comic Relief.

I also discovered that you can buy a ticket at the UA theatre on Shattuck and just jump from screen to screen all day. That is, if you think The Hulk, Terminator 3, and Charlie's Angels:Full Throttle are even collectively worth $6. Much better, the Pacific Film Archive has an Aki Kaurismaki season at the moment-worth a look if Clarke or Stolenbus are into that kind of thing.

Anthony/Kyle - check your mail (in about ten minutes).

Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Monday, 7 July 2003 16:25 (twenty-three years ago)

Nordicskillz, i understand what you're saying about drum circles grating, but if you had to choose a bunch of fucking gutter punkz stoned out their gourd with no rhythm, or a bunch of real african dudes and some latin guys (and probably a few stoned out their gourd hippies), i'd choose the later.

JasonD (JasonD), Monday, 7 July 2003 16:34 (twenty-three years ago)

agreed, Jason. Though I have not a little love for gutter punkz.

Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Monday, 7 July 2003 16:35 (twenty-three years ago)

There's a lovely leather store called Stormy Leather that you might want to check-out - staffed by little goth lesbians. Delightful.

I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Monday, 7 July 2003 19:19 (twenty-three years ago)

two weeks pass...
i forgot the arrow bar on 6th between market and mission, it's in a fairly shady part of town but can be fun... *hic*

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 23 July 2003 01:58 (twenty-two years ago)

two weeks pass...
clarke and stolenbus:
how's the trip planning?

i have no idea if you guys like america's favorite pasttime:

I wish I could say something original about Pac Bell Park, but I'm afraid I'm going to say what everybody else says: It's great. There aren't many beautiful ballparks in the major leagues, but I think Pac Bell just might qualify, especially when the Giants, in their classic cream-colored uniforms, are arrayed about the greensward.

My favorite place in the majors is a good seat at Fenway Park, but now I think my second-favorite place in baseball might be standing on the walkway beyond the right-field wall at Pac Bell, wondering if Barry Bonds is going to hit one over my head and into the water. It's something that every fan should experience at least once ... and the nice thing is, the cheapest ticket can get you there.
-- Rob Neyer

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 8 August 2003 21:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Hey gygax, thanks for asking! Contrary to suspicion upthread, stolenbus is actually my beautiful ladyfriend and not my old roommate charlieva. ;-) So yeah, our planning's going well; we've got our lame touristy guidebooks (and a print-out of this thread that I foresee as being even more helpful), our ho(s)tels booked (Adelaide in Union Square, YMCA in Berkeley, San Remo in North Beach), and a Monday afternoon reservation at Anchor Brewery (hells yeah). I'm getting excited about the things I usually get excited about (food, brew, records), except just *way* more. This thread is a wonderful thing indeed, and we thank you all for it. Oh yeah, I really like baseball, too, so the park might be a lot of fun...

Clarke B., Saturday, 9 August 2003 04:30 (twenty-two years ago)

You're still coming down here too, right? ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 9 August 2003 04:39 (twenty-two years ago)

It really would be awesome to meet up with you, Ned! We won't have a car or anything, so it's obviously going to be a challenge to make it down to OC, but if you have any spare time between the 14th and the 26th and can make it up here, we could have a good ol' FAP (Emily's and my first it'd be!). Heck, we could make a day trip out of it and visit Sonoma or something... Also, if anyone who lives in SF has a car and wants to tour wineries, we'd be happy to pay gas money. ;-)

Clarke B., Saturday, 9 August 2003 04:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Alas! No can do, the next two weekends are already blocked out for one reason or another to a fair extent, and while I was pondering making a run up to SF for Labor Day or something, that would be after you are gone. Next time! And have fun with the good people in SF. :-) Touring wineries without me, I cry at the lost opportunity.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 9 August 2003 21:40 (twenty-two years ago)

We're here!!

Clarke B., Friday, 15 August 2003 04:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Yay! Are you partying it down already?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 15 August 2003 04:23 (twenty-two years ago)

nice, have a good time!

if you have any questions, i can be reached here sporadically M-Th 7am-7pm and Fridays 8am-12noon.

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 15 August 2003 05:04 (twenty-two years ago)

if you have any questions, i can be reached here sporadically M-Th 7am-7pm and Fridays 8am-12noon.

first, you're working too much.

secondly, i'm telling elenor you're using work time for ILX

JasonD (JasonD), Friday, 15 August 2003 05:07 (twenty-two years ago)

hi gygax! i miss you

JasonD (JasonD), Friday, 15 August 2003 05:07 (twenty-two years ago)

is this worktime mothafuckah? i thought not! tell me about it, i'd like to post more about the top 20 p. diddy couplets but you know, my ass is clocked by the time you're cralwing in from another schoolnight out on the town, son.

but yeah, i miss you too babydoll. we should hook up (tomorrow?) for something. i still owe you a night out on the town for your bday. we can invite your wife or maybe not??!?!?!?!?!

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 15 August 2003 05:21 (twenty-two years ago)

i may be at the following shows:

8/16 Hemlock - Neil Hamburger/Dr. El Suavo (Australia)
8/18 Cafe Du Norde - M. Ward*
8/20 Grandma's House, Oakland - Friends Forever, Healthy Healthy, Hale Zukas
8/22 Bottom of the Hill - Las Ultrasonicas, Human Life Index, Viki, Mammal

*I will most definitely be at this show.

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 15 August 2003 16:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Emily and I are probably going to see VVRRSN (or however the hell you spell it) - a Surface of Eceyon side-project thing-y - on Sunday. There's also a McSweeney's reading or something that night that might be interesting... Sorry you can't make it up here, Ned! ;-) We made a trip to day to Amoeba (oh god wow), and I'll be sure to make another one (or two?) in your honor. More later!

Clarke B., Saturday, 16 August 2003 05:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Where is that show (the Surface of Eceyon thing)?

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Saturday, 16 August 2003 06:39 (twenty-two years ago)

The show is at the Balazo Gallery on Market. It's Adam Forkner from Yume Bitsu. There are some other bands playing too (The Windup Bird (ex 33.3), The One AM Radio, Tenebre) but I've never actually heard any of them. I think it's only 5 bucks, and the website I saw said it starts at 7:30, so...

stolenbus (stolenbus), Sunday, 17 August 2003 06:10 (twenty-two years ago)

balazo is on 24th & mission (not market). my friend keeps telling me to check out [[[[VVRSSNN]]]], so i think i might go to the show? here's info from the K records website:

VVRSSNN SOFT DOLPHIN YARN LAZER in AUGUST:

AUGUST 17TH BALAZO GALLERY, 24th and mission, SAN FRANCISCO, CA 7:30 pm, $5 donation. w/ tenebre, windup bird (ALL AGES)

JasonD (JasonD), Sunday, 17 August 2003 18:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Inspired by my drive to work today:

pet central
660 broadway @ grant - chinatown

walk all the way in to the store and down the stairs in the back to the lower level huge room of aquariums... the most bizarre collection of fish/aquatic life i've ever seen.

gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 22 August 2003 18:32 (twenty-two years ago)

five months pass...
Anybody know where to get a large number of nice flowers on Sat?

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 9 February 2004 23:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Ah, the project is revealed! Sorta.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 9 February 2004 23:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Anybody know where to get a large number of nice flowers on Sat?

the flower mart opens at 5am but that's for trade only. i think it opens for allcomers at 10am. (blame my XXGF for all this knowledge). cut out the middleman spence.

6th st. btw. bryant/brannan.

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 9 February 2004 23:47 (twenty-two years ago)

I fail to see what this has to do with graphic design.

but I bet gygax knows, he seems like the romantic type.

(x-post!)

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Monday, 9 February 2004 23:49 (twenty-two years ago)

haha, there are designs!

and thanks gygax!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 9 February 2004 23:51 (twenty-two years ago)

np spencer. ps: i have something for you that my lazy ass has not sent via snailmail. how about a rendezvous saturday night around 7:45pm at a restaurant of your choice? ;-D

gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 9 February 2004 23:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Gygax, are you coming on to Spencer? WELL.

I get this image of Spencer using a Peter Saville lecture as the equivalent of a Barry White album.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 9 February 2004 23:54 (twenty-two years ago)

gygax, if things go as poorly as they very well might, then you're on!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 9 February 2004 23:54 (twenty-two years ago)

and Ned, I've found out that does not actually work!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 9 February 2004 23:56 (twenty-two years ago)

What did you do, leave that Tony Wilson interview with him playing in the background or something?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 9 February 2004 23:57 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm just trying to find a girl who will even just put up with that kind of thing, let alone be turned on by it!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 00:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh you guys (Spencer and gygax!, I mean) should SO go to Foreign Cinema!

hahahahaha!

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 00:01 (twenty-two years ago)

hahaha that's where I went last valentine's day which helped instigated the whole argument.

anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 00:06 (twenty-two years ago)

I WAS AT THE BAR THAT NIGHT! (from about 10:30-11:00)

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 00:08 (twenty-two years ago)


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