― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 20:54 (seventeen years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 20:55 (seventeen years ago) link
― kingfish, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 20:56 (seventeen years ago) link
That film largely revolved around Mr. Moores fruitless attempts to interview Roger Smith, then the chairman of General Motors, after his company closed plants in Mr. Moores birthplace, Flint, Mich.: an interview that occurred, Ms. Melnyk and Mr. Caine said, although Mr. Moore left it on the cutting-room floor
― gff, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 20:57 (seventeen years ago) link
Moore's worst infraction, however, was also the most intimate. There's a scene that depicts a 'Great Gatsby' party, ostensibly an arrogant display of wealth in the face of Flint's misery. It was actually an annual fundraiser for a battered women's shelter, something Moore had supported in his Flint Voice editorials. One guest, a middle-aged man, speaks about Flint's many virtues and comes across as a heartless, privileged ass. Moore does not disclose that this man, Larry Stecco, is an acquaintance of his, a lawyer who had given money to the Flint Voice and performed pro bono civil rights work in the area. Stecco is now a judge, and Larner met with him. We learn that Moore asked Stecco a misleading question to elicit the desired quote. Stecco sued Moore and won; he tells Larner that the black actors paid to pose as 'human statues' at the Gatsby event sued as well (Moore chose not to film the white actors). In a commentary for the 'Roger & Me' DVD recorded in 2003, Moore not only fails to mention any of this he continues to badmouth Stecco as part of 'the other side'. If Moore is this dishonest toward a friend at a tiny local event, he can scarcely be trusted on matters of world-historical scope. Larner's summation hits the mark: Moore 'exhibits both a solid show-business instinct and a cold, hard core of relentless ideology, an attitude that, as with Leninists of yore, will always put the cause of increasing human well-being before the well-being of any particular human, and will put the meta-truth before the actual, immediate truth of any situation' (p. 78).
― gff, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 21:08 (seventeen years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 21:14 (seventeen years ago) link
― gff, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 21:17 (seventeen years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 21:22 (seventeen years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 21:26 (seventeen years ago) link
― kingfish, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 21:31 (seventeen years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 21:34 (seventeen years ago) link
While Moore's background is in grassroots organising and muckraking journalism, his ticket to fame was America's flourishing medium of satire a medium he did much to reinvent. His forebears range from Charlie Chaplin to Abbie Hoffman, as Kevin Mattson observed in a 2003 critique for Dissent. Today, Moore operates in a crowded comedic field, much of which could be called 'post-ideological'. Jon Stewart of 'The Daily Show' is unmistakably liberal, but he can be equally merciless toward George W. Bush and Hugo Chávez. Bill Maher, a spirited Bush-basher and opponent of the Iraq war, staunchly defended Israel's July 2006 bombardment of Lebanon and gave an obsequious interview to Benjamin Netanyahu. 'South Park' routinely mocks the pieties of the right and the left. But in Moore's top-grossing documentaries and polemical books, there is no mistaking where his flag is planted. And despite his old-school labour movement roots, he fully understands (to quote Mattson) that today's 'young people are reached via satellite dishes and mega-mall bookstores rather than through cafés or union halls or small magazines'.
― gff, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 21:35 (seventeen years ago) link
― gff, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 21:41 (seventeen years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 21:42 (seventeen years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 21:43 (seventeen years ago) link
― milo z, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link
He said point-blank that the CIA trained and funded bin Laden, which I have not seen corroborated.
― Fluffy Bear, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 21:45 (seventeen years ago) link
― milo z, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 21:46 (seventeen years ago) link
― gff, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 21:47 (seventeen years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 21:47 (seventeen years ago) link
― kingfish, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 21:47 (seventeen years ago) link
― gff, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 21:48 (seventeen years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 21:50 (seventeen years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 21:51 (seventeen years ago) link
I'm not defending Moore's shortcuts so much as I don't care that he makes them. It doesn't bother me, its par for the course with filmmaking. I don't accept anything he displays on-screen as "the truth" and am saddened and surprised that anyone would do so.
― Fluffy Bear, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 21:51 (seventeen years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 21:53 (seventeen years ago) link
― Fluffy Bear, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 21:53 (seventeen years ago) link
― abanana, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 21:55 (seventeen years ago) link
― Fluffy Bear, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 21:58 (seventeen years ago) link
― gff, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 22:06 (seventeen years ago) link
The characterization of Leninism as being concerned with the well-being of humanity is rather disingenuous. Or at least overly simplistic.
but milo the writer's concluding sentence about there being "no question which side his flag is planted on' is made in contrast to the other previous three examples - the implication being that the side(s) the other "post ideological" comedians/critics take are more nuanced, balanced, etc., that it ISN'T clear which side their flag is planted on.
― milo z, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 23:18 (seventeen years ago) link
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 23:44 (seventeen years ago) link
― milo z, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 00:13 (seventeen years ago) link
October 2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhydyxRjujU&feature=player_embedded
― gossip and complaints (suzy), Friday, 21 August 2009 10:18 (fourteen years ago) link
Basically my first take-away from this is MIA has nailed the social protest OST market 4 lyfe.
― gossip and complaints (suzy), Friday, 21 August 2009 10:19 (fourteen years ago) link
http://video.nytimes.com/video/2009/09/17/movies/1247464643127/exclusive-clip-capitalism-a-love-story.html
― A Patch on Blazing Saddles (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 20 September 2009 14:38 (fourteen years ago) link
finally saw this last one, maybe his second best after F 9/11.
― Feingold/Kaptur 2012 (Dr Morbius), Friday, 27 November 2009 04:28 (fourteen years ago) link
Finally saw it too. The first half is his best stuff in years. The part 40 mins in about "Peasant Death" secret life insurance policies is more shocking than anything else in the film.
The last half though, where he starts doing his usual stunts, is far less effective, and the whole Obama wins people fight back tone is silly and naive. That's what you get in a movie finished right after his election.
Of course after seeing MM in "Unreasonable Man" it's hard to take anything this guy says seriously.
― Adam Bruneau, Sunday, 7 March 2010 19:22 (fourteen years ago) link
this guy is a #1 troll
― but actually it is impossible to have a penis on the body of a mermaid (dyao), Monday, 15 March 2010 14:44 (fourteen years ago) link
he tweets:
Liberal pundits are saying we should "stand up to Obama!" Really? How should we do that? More begging? More "tsk tsk"? More "pretty please?"
― your generation appalls me (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 12 April 2011 17:36 (thirteen years ago) link
spotted on sidewalk outside IFC Center yakking w/ patrons after Q&A session for Jeremy Scahill's docfilm Dirty Wars. You won't believe it but he was in t shirt and jeans.
― ballin' from Maine to Mexico (Dr Morbius), Monday, 10 June 2013 13:40 (ten years ago) link
Ran across a cache of old VHS tapes that were boxed up in the garage and found the TV Nation tapes I had. I lucked out and got to see the pilot almost a year before it actually aired. Instantly thought, no way this is getting on. It was classic Mad Magazine "beware of The Man" pop sociology with Michael Moore as Alfred E. Chomsky and Louis Theroux, Karen Duffy, Merrill Markoe, Janeane Garofalo & that KGB guy as the Usual Gang of Idiots. Best prank Moore ever pulled off - convincing NBC to fund a season of it.
― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 11 January 2014 09:26 (ten years ago) link
WHERE TO INVADE NEXT explores the current state of the nation in a form that is quintessential Moore: provocative, impassioned and very funny. The film was a runaway hit with audiences and critics at this month's Toronto International Film Festival (and currently boasts a rating of 95% on Rotten Tomatoes). The film's American premiere is this Friday evening at the New York Film Festival presented by the Film Society of Lincoln Center. It sold out within hours of being announced.
Moore's epic journey will invade American cinemas this December -- and will be in hundreds of theaters across the country ahead of the first presidential primary.
http://wheretoinvadenext.com/
― skateboards are the new combover (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 30 September 2015 18:41 (eight years ago) link
Really wish Michael Moore would write documentaries for other people to direct and star in.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 30 September 2015 20:05 (eight years ago) link
Great title.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 30 September 2015 20:27 (eight years ago) link
Hey, I remember this TV Nation bit
― Purves Grundy (kingfish), Wednesday, 30 September 2015 20:51 (eight years ago) link
out tomorrow
https://theintercept.com/2016/02/10/where-to-invade-next-is-the-most-subversive-movie-michael-moore-has-ever-made/
― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 11 February 2016 17:51 (eight years ago) link
looks bad
― socka flocka-jones (man alive), Friday, 3 June 2016 17:36 (eight years ago) link
friend (not the op) shared this:
https://www.facebook.com/sylvain.lariviere.777/videos/vb.829750410/10156828556290411/?type=2&theater
Sylvain Lariviere
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ain't AmericaHere is a different reality about Italia from an Italian girl who's living a different daily reality than this video (From Valentina Corvi)
ciao! just to tell u that that moor's video is completelly false. the majority of us strugles to arrive to the end of the month, and we are almost bankrupted as a country. the two companies where he went, have nothing to do with all the rest of the Italian companies. wages are around 1000/1200 euros per month, the 100% goes away for monthly expenses (house rent, bills, food, kids needs, medicines..). yes, sure, holidays here are payed, but normal people use that money to survive not to go on holiday. that couple?? easy when u are in two people working and no kids. in italy is much more common that only one of the two has a job (there are no jobs here) and 3 kids at home. we are devastated by the taxes of our corrupted politicians (the only really rich in my country). for i stance, i have a house in the center of rome, was my granny house. i have to give every year 6500 euros to the gov only cause i own that house, only cause is mine, every year i have to pay 6500 euros, over a hoise where already my granmother payd lot of taxes when she bought it. than i have to pay the tari, other 600 euros, to the district of rome, so evry year just cause i posses my family house, i've to give 7000 euros to the gov. and i'm lucky, cause i can afford, i belong to the minority of the itslians. if i was a normal itslian, i would have been forced to sell my family house. half of the pay an employe gets here, goes to the government in first place, with what remains, u have to survive. another exaple, gino strada, he is a surgeon who created a medical charity organization called emergency. emergency used to work only in the third world or in war places as siria, afganistan ecc. they provide free medical assitence. well, now they had to open emergency centers also in italy, cause the 20% of the italians cannot afford paying for healthcare, though here is not like in the us and medical healsh should be free. but the is a tax on it called "ticket", u dont pay the medical care but y pay the tax on it. and people are so poor now that they cannot afford paying the ticket. so gino strada was forced to help suffering people also in his country. michael moor wanted to uplight what's wrong in the us. but he should have gone in northen europe, not in italy. people want to come in the usa, cause at least there u can find a job. maybe maternity and holidays are not payd, but still u can find a job. here people do not have a job, nevertheless they have to pay a lot of taxes over whatever. we have also a tax over taxes, it sounds funny, but is the dramatic italian reality. never so a more unfair video as the moor's one. the only thing here is better than usa, the reason why our life span is wider, is that is true that we don't eat shit. our diet, the mediterrain diet, is very healthy since we eat a lot of fruit and vegetables, very little sugar, very little fats, and we don't like processed food. but obama is pishing for the ttip, he want europe to be invaded with the american shit, meat full of antibiotics and hormons, ogm, veg filled up with chemicals. as soon as the american edible crap will invade us, will die obese, with diabetis and as soon as u do there!
ciao!
― socka flocka-jones (man alive), Friday, 3 June 2016 17:52 (eight years ago) link