and dont worry about not getting it, you have a good chance i'm sure, and even if you don't get it, you'll have had a go. the failure is not failing at something, the failure is not trying, that is the ultimate failure. send in the tape and you'll have already done something good in itself, regardless of outcome
― gareth (gareth), Friday, 2 May 2003 09:22 (twenty-one years ago) link
Don't do it! I know whereof I speak.
― mei (mei), Friday, 2 May 2003 09:29 (twenty-one years ago) link
Your tone seems to be that the end of result of studying mathematics at uni is far less important that a life spent on the coat tails of Ms Love.Guitar players may become more famous and make a lot more money and lead "cooler" lives than most people but I don't any serious person would consider their existence very important in any sense of the word.
― Roman (Roman), Friday, 2 May 2003 10:51 (twenty-one years ago) link
with the emphasis on "may".
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 2 May 2003 10:52 (twenty-one years ago) link
Going back to university has been something that has been on my mind a lot lately. Certainly that seems like a preferable option to rotting in this office.
― kate, Friday, 2 May 2003 10:57 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Sarah McLUsky (coco), Friday, 2 May 2003 11:22 (twenty-one years ago) link
― A Nairn (moretap), Friday, 2 May 2003 13:11 (twenty-one years ago) link
― kate, Friday, 2 May 2003 13:17 (twenty-one years ago) link
― toraneko (toraneko), Friday, 2 May 2003 15:19 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 2 May 2003 16:08 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Friday, 2 May 2003 16:13 (twenty-one years ago) link
Art is nice but not that important. You can survive without art, especially the dribble passed of as art.Functional art like architecture is far more relevant than lilies on the pond.
― Food and Glory, Friday, 2 May 2003 17:41 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Sarah McLUsky (coco), Friday, 2 May 2003 17:49 (twenty-one years ago) link
Thanks for judging my "tone" so defensively, Roman.
Kate, sorry for taking that "tone" but I didn't want to think that if your life took a turn towards a somewhat (arbitrarily) deeper career move, you would somehow feel inadequate and less important. This would clearly not be the case. Though I enjoy music immensely I do not think my life would have been wasted if I hadn't heard even half of the music I have listened to in my life.
― Roman (Roman), Friday, 2 May 2003 18:46 (twenty-one years ago) link
By the way, does Ronan=Roman?
― Sarah McLUsky (coco), Friday, 2 May 2003 18:57 (twenty-one years ago) link
Sarah,I guess the entertainment industry is serious business to some but not to all of us. The Julia Robertses and George Clooneys of the world are important in a sense I do not fathom. Maybe you do.
― Roman (Roman), Friday, 2 May 2003 20:22 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 2 May 2003 21:12 (twenty-one years ago) link
― hamish (hamish), Saturday, 3 May 2003 02:02 (twenty-one years ago) link
― hamish (hamish), Saturday, 3 May 2003 02:04 (twenty-one years ago) link
I just found out that my former bassist - you know, the one who was too busy "working on her house" to continue being in my band - says that she wants to audition.
That has officially destroyed any desire I ever had, ironic or not, to audition. Yeah, I fucking hope that she gets it, too. I think about 5 minutes of working with Courtney Love will make her realise that maybe I wasn't quite so bad after all.
I fucking hate the music industry. I fucking hate it so much. I hate the way that it turns former friends into enemies and rivals and I still can't stop myself from feeling angry. :-(
― kate, Thursday, 8 May 2003 08:26 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 8 May 2003 08:28 (twenty-one years ago) link
― kate, Thursday, 8 May 2003 08:33 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Alex in Rotherham (alexfack), Thursday, 8 May 2003 08:39 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 8 May 2003 08:39 (twenty-one years ago) link
― kate, Thursday, 8 May 2003 08:42 (twenty-one years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Thursday, 8 May 2003 08:52 (twenty-one years ago) link
― dave q, Thursday, 8 May 2003 08:59 (twenty-one years ago) link
― piscesboy, Thursday, 8 May 2003 11:14 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 8 May 2003 11:28 (twenty-one years ago) link
Or maybe I'm just severely depressed because we got the sales figures from our album today and we're even more unpopular (and therefore I'm even less talented) than I previously believed.
Can this week get any more crap? :-(
― kate, Thursday, 8 May 2003 12:07 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Sarah McLusky (coco), Thursday, 8 May 2003 12:16 (twenty-one years ago) link
I really do feel like this is just final confirmation of my total talentlessnes. The sales figures have spoken. I truly am shit as a songwriter and a musician. I should just give up, burn any dreams I might have had left and go home. I will never be anything other than an office slob who hates her job.
I really just want to cry. Oh christ, I am crying. Time to go hide in the bathroom for a bit.
― kate, Thursday, 8 May 2003 12:26 (twenty-one years ago) link
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 8 May 2003 12:30 (twenty-one years ago) link
― hstencil, Thursday, 8 May 2003 12:59 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 8 May 2003 13:19 (twenty-one years ago) link
As to the cavilling about sales, talent and the rest: my first book never sold as well as it should have after I'd worked damned hard to make it good. Disappointing as that was, it still means a great deal to me to meet people six years later who not only bought it, but cherish it. At the time I was concerned that a) my PR wasn't doing enough with the contacts I gave her and b) the marketing department were even worse. Hence not very many sales after mostly brilliant reviews. If you beat yourself up over an apparent lack of interest, it only hurts you and kind of makes all the people who *did* go and see your gigs and buy the records feel a bit chopped liverish.
― suzy (suzy), Thursday, 8 May 2003 13:20 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 8 May 2003 13:36 (twenty-one years ago) link
Courtney: "So, do you like the Ramones?". My friend:"Well..(pause)... I think they are incredibly influential, though I don't listen to them every day, day in and day out,..."
My friend found out the desired answer was "No". She never got the gig. (based on that question alone, or other reasons, I have no idea)
― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 8 May 2003 18:52 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 8 May 2003 18:54 (twenty-one years ago) link
Yes, Kate - Cheer up! Look at the Top 40, ferchrissakes, record sales do not correlate with talent! I love the Lollies tracks I've heard, and I know talent. And you're one of the most talented ILX posters! ;)
― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Thursday, 8 May 2003 19:06 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 8 May 2003 19:09 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 8 May 2003 19:12 (twenty-one years ago) link
― g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Thursday, 8 May 2003 19:15 (twenty-one years ago) link
So, while I don't think you should let it get you down or discourage you, Kate, I can DEFINITELY empathize with where you're coming from. I also think you should audition for Courtney, if only for the opportunity to call her an asshat if she does something stupid.
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 8 May 2003 19:24 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Kerry (dymaxia), Thursday, 8 May 2003 19:45 (twenty-one years ago) link
No, I've decided not to do it, for more reasons than I can outline. Not the least of which is, my gut reaction says "don't do it" and I'm trying to listen to my gut more. Hell, it's big enough.
I'm recording this weekend, I've decided to concentrate more on making music (even if it's just in my bedroom) that makes *me* happy, and stop trying to make a "career" out of music. You have to make too many sacrifices that I'm not prepared to make.
― kate, Friday, 9 May 2003 08:12 (twenty-one years ago) link