"oh you don't get me I'm the end of the union": lol brexit is how we're all gonna die

Apropos of nothing pic.twitter.com/C8nd0jEeCS

— Kevin Boniface (@MrKevinBoniface) March 24, 2019

We will find a brighter day.

and speaking of voting them out, anyone who doesn't have legitimate concerns about Corbyn's electability

Who's your choice?

The one thing that could really fuck us up is May being toppled immediately

how does she get toppled?

it sounds like she's going to be pressured to walk with some (lol) modicum of dignity to make way for "continuity caretaker" manager (worst expression you could possibly use in the current circumstances), Mickey Goveardyce.

Sarah Vine getting it from all sides on Twitter today for being particularly unpleasant about yesterday’s march - NAGL for a potential PM spouse. She bullied a kind, clever friend of mine at work when she was a Times editor (and exacerbated her MH problems) so my hatred of her is ahead of the curve.

at least someone thinks Gove is a bit of a catch, she been to specsavers recently?

I once heard her without any irony or outright pisstaking describe him as an "alpha male".

he likes nubile young women iirc

Yeah suzy even as a miserable class-war cynic i can't find much reason to be horrible about a march like yesterday, it's a terrible look to be dismissive if you have pretentions to actual political involvement

I was talking to a farmer and a fisherman today (Brexit voters) about marching yesterday and they LOATHE the ERG wing of the Tories (with New Labour/TIG types coming a close second). They weren’t at all dismissive or snarky about the march and I reckon they’d tolerate a softer Brexit than the current government is trying to insist people like them want. The fisherman likes Corbyn and worries The Suits will get to him.

I feel more ambiguous about the march than yesterday, but yeah, any side SV takes is generally not a side I’m on.

the liberals sneering at corbyn visiting morecambe, where a quarter of residents are living in poverty, instead of going on their march yesterday is doing absolutely nothing to challenge the opinion of many that they’re just middle class snobs

— laura (@lauraw97_) March 24, 2019

??????????????? Thanks a bunch ????????????????? pic.twitter.com/D9U3Otohjn

— notmaudgonne (@notmaudgonne) March 24, 2019

I'm always really gobsmacked by middle class liberals who think "normally I don't care about other people's suffering, but this is affecting ME" is a good sentiment to share. https://t.co/13LyQ7Jm2U

— Bobby QELD🏴 (@BobbyNechayev) March 24, 2019

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— br 🌱 (@redbethmond) March 23, 2019

Me yesterday: I’d still vote for remain obviously, but some of the same people on my side are fucking idiots who have no idea how to build a consensus and will kill us all
Me after seeing some of the signs above: NO DEAL NOW

the fishermen were sold a load of bull by Leave, that was never going to happen for them, at least not at all in the short term i.e. the next 30 years probs! but yeah shock horror etc!

xp
aaarrgh!

That kind of Awfully British cosplay is fucking cancerous

100%, it’s a whole other country that only exists in their heads & so many people are at it.

there is probably a stronger tea drinking culture in Turkey than in the UK, JUST FOR STARTERS so fuck off AND DIE!

any side SV takes is generally not a side I’m on.

brb reposting to out of context thread

lol I refrained from posting same tbh

way to build a consensus gyac :p

ikr

lol I realised that not even a quarter of a second after posting but I don’t think of him as “SV” so it made sense in my head ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I would hope he doesn’t think of you as your username either

I cannot confirm that he has never thought it at me tbh!

Petition is at five million now.

12 miilion short

Yes it is what it is

Love ot when gyac and suze et al make me think i'mnot full mental tanklife

One million march on London, a curated selection of four placards being held are tonally a bit off, more at 10

Here’s a long thread of >4 if that helps

Here are the worst placards I’ve seen today pic.twitter.com/PNYbbxDqZq

— br 🌱 (@redbethmond) March 23, 2019

“Tonally a bit off”

It's definitely fun to make fun of a few bad placards, however

Sure is, thanks for the validation.

If you are waiting for British people, especially middle class British people, to not be generally a bit embarrassing, don't think this is going to be resolved any time soon

i'm aware of that but if the electorate were all thoughtful ilx types who actually focus on substance and nuance i wouldn't be saying any of this, because corbyn would already be PM

― PPL+AI=NS (imago), Sunday, 24 March 2019 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

when you are aware and you are just not aware.

Would you like to clarify how the “don’t make me die Irish” and the infuriating one about “lol being British is about tea and apologising” are just “a bit embarrassing”? Like, am I supposed to take heart from these people being on my side or what?

Sure. The "die Irish" one is awful, but its maker clearly hadn't thought about how it sounded like Irish = bad. The "tea & apologies" shit is tedious patter which you and I and everyone else here are sick of, but some people are somehow not tired of it yet and that doesn't make them bad people, just annoying ones.

They are absolutely reprenstative of half the fucking problem cf people's Oscar winner Olivia Colman doing "i love the UK me" British Airways ads

There are embarrassing people on every side of everything because we live in England

The placards are part of the reason why we are in this situation - so incredibly tone-deaf and ineffectual.

This is true across the pond. Loss of referendums and elections.

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— yung pu-erh (@woke_hoover) March 24, 2019

A lot of ppl who venerate Churchill are “not bad ppl” and we should still attack their ideas about what is valuable about Britishness

I don't think I've ever met an Irish Brit who'd have a problem with Irish nationality. No idea what's going on there.

Not sure I'm making my case here exactly, but here is a different sort of placard

54% of white #women voted for #DonaldTrump.. #WomensMarch pic.twitter.com/LigmtfBGxd

— BLACK (@_WeAreBlack) January 21, 2017

Hahaha, I remembered last week why I unfollowed Sali Hughes back in the day & why I have had no time for her for ages as well - she was doing some teary-eyed shite about how the UK was “just this tiny little island” back during the 2012 Olympics opening ceremony.

The point is, this view isn’t benign & it goes way beyond just being annoying and twee. This is a country where the SoS for defence not two weeks ago defended the service of Bloody Sunday soldiers. Where the people responsible for deporting black and brown British citizens still hold positions of power in public life! Where the PM outright said the EU was interfering in elections!

While I get that people find politics tedious and overwhelming and just want it to be over, it’s completely ignoring the role of this mentality in providing cover for numerous awful things - where the actual day to day effects of being ignorant about politics are something that happens to other people.

xxp they meant "don't make me emigrate from my homeland" - they just presented it in the shittest way possible

I'm a revolting internationalist liberal don't make me pay roaming charges I'd die.

The Antonin Scalia Law School announced Saturday that Brett Kavanaugh will co-teach a course this summer on the "origins and creation of the US Constitution" in Runnymede, England.

Makes sense.

The point is, this view isn’t benign & it goes way beyond just being annoying and twee

BOOM

Regardless of whether it goes through or not Labour needs to whip for a second referendum just to shut these guys up for a bit.

the big "is there anything else we should leave while we're at it?" referendum?

And honestly it is so incredibly wearying that people keep hijacking this issue to make a point in some intercenine Labour Party bollocks.

What exactly is 'this view' other than 'British people like making jokes about stereotypes of British people'?

Pro-tip read the paragraphs in order

Fair point - I assumed that 'annoying and twee' related to the placards because of the tone before.