2020 Democratic presidential primary

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here's something on reparations paid by france to french jews deported to death camps (and sometimes their spouses or heirs):

https://www.npr.org/2019/02/07/692376994/holocaust-survivors-and-victims-families-receive-millions-in-reparations-from-fr

i mean, it's hard to argue with this -- each victim is getting the equiv. of $400,000. i can see someone viewing this sort of thing as necessary but not sufficient in terms of how to deal with the legacy of something so horrific.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Friday, 22 March 2019 19:12 (seven years ago)

but it also seems so arbitrary. why these particular victims and their families? what about the many millions of others? what about those that have left no legacy, because their entire families were wiped out? what can be done about the cultures and societies destroyed?

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Friday, 22 March 2019 19:14 (seven years ago)

Ta-Nehisi Coates on the case for reparations:

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/03/ta-nehisi-coates-race-politics-2020-elections.html

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Friday, 22 March 2019 19:15 (seven years ago)

I am enough behind reparations, cash and real estate equivalents for individuals, communities and specific organizations, that the single answer is to say "yes, I am for reparations." I don't need the operating procedure manual right now.

Yerac, Friday, 22 March 2019 19:17 (seven years ago)

xpost

thanks for the coates interview!

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Friday, 22 March 2019 19:17 (seven years ago)

there are some weird legalistics w/ the french reparations to. they are basically out of court settlements in which the victims and their descendants give up the right to sue. which is something i always find very weird even in much more mundance circumstances, but in this moral context seems extremely dubious.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Friday, 22 March 2019 19:20 (seven years ago)

*too

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Friday, 22 March 2019 19:20 (seven years ago)

There is a non-trivial difference between "I broadly agree with this principle but I haven't seen a reasonable implementation proposal; this issue should be studied so one can be generated" and "despite everything we know about the history of our country and how previous iterations of these programs have excluded black people, if we implement mine we will definitely help black people this time who btw are all poor"

GDPR vs GAPDY (DJP), Friday, 22 March 2019 19:55 (seven years ago)

not on the topic of reparations at large, i thought warren's proposal for aid to low-income non-homeowners living in formerly red-lined districts was *interesting* if by no means a comprehensive form of redress. curious what that looks like to people who've studied possible solutions more than i have. but kind of amazing that a major national political figure who is white is talking about the need to do something about the wealth gap created by a specific not-that-long-ago policy. hard to imagine without the work of coates and others to really hammer this home in recent years.

not to say this has all sunk in with everybody it should. i saw a talk last night by a well-intentioned liberal urban planning professor from harvard, who described boston as a "thriving city, but with pockets of deep poverty" in front of a slide full of statistics that, on their face, seemed to suggest an apartheid city, but with pockets of deep wealth. i should have taken a picture.

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Friday, 22 March 2019 20:13 (seven years ago)

i see that in Nashville as well. and basically everywhere?

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 22 March 2019 20:52 (seven years ago)

wait forks do u live in Nashville?

⅋ (crüt), Friday, 22 March 2019 21:01 (seven years ago)

yeah, totally ubiquitous in US cities, i think really i was just struck by how, idk, that language and lens on the statistics she had (which were abt wealth broken down by race) might have glided past me, a dopey white liberal, in my younger years. the conversation is changing.

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Friday, 22 March 2019 21:02 (seven years ago)

yeah I deeply believe that you can't tackle the poverty trap problem without properly addressing the housing problem in cities, not just in the US but all of the western world.

Van Horn Street, Friday, 22 March 2019 21:33 (seven years ago)

+ universal health coverage in the us.

Van Horn Street, Friday, 22 March 2019 21:34 (seven years ago)

There’s a kid in a Jeeves and Wooster story who spends every day trying to do good deeds and he reminds me of that

Almost every person I know in South Bend, Indiana is sharing stories like this about Mayor @PeteButtigieg & I’m not cynical enough not to be moved. pic.twitter.com/ZHEh9bJv71

— Ashley C. Ford (@iSmashFizzle) March 23, 2019

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 23 March 2019 03:38 (seven years ago)

it's hard not to like this dude

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2UD88mX4AAesId.jpg

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Saturday, 23 March 2019 03:52 (seven years ago)

ah, fuck

Wait- this is incredible 🙌🤣 pic.twitter.com/j4yWWDKdmQ

— Peri (@newyorkperi) March 23, 2019

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Saturday, 23 March 2019 03:53 (seven years ago)

wow

k3vin k., Saturday, 23 March 2019 03:59 (seven years ago)

BigButtEnergy

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Saturday, 23 March 2019 04:05 (seven years ago)

he has enough donations and the poll numbers to make the first debate. let's hope he gets asked about hot dogs

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Saturday, 23 March 2019 04:30 (seven years ago)

The Hot Dog Question will be Beto's downfall, as he doesn't get to eat.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 23 March 2019 05:09 (seven years ago)

So uh what are Buttigieg's actual politics like relative to other candidates

Simon H., Saturday, 23 March 2019 12:51 (seven years ago)

A gay man is not being nominated in 2020.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 23 March 2019 12:53 (seven years ago)

A shame that black man in 2008 never stood a chance!

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 23 March 2019 12:55 (seven years ago)

Buttigieg won't be the nominee for reasons that have nought to do with whom he tops or bottoms.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 23 March 2019 13:17 (seven years ago)

if those didn't exist, he would not be nominated.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 23 March 2019 13:23 (seven years ago)

He answered the hot dog question like the questions they give during McKinsey interviews.

Yerac, Saturday, 23 March 2019 13:39 (seven years ago)

The Associated Press reports:

Representatives for Joe Biden and Stacey Abrams say that rumors the former vice president planned to choose the onetime Georgia gubernatorial candidate as his 2020 running mate are “false” and that there was “no grand plan hatched.”

Biden spokesman Bill Russo tweeted Friday that the ex-vice president “has an enormous amount of respect for” Abrams, noting Biden endorsed her in the gubernatorial race. “But,” Russo tweeted, “these rumors about discussions on a pre-cooked ticket are false, plain and simple.”

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 23 March 2019 14:23 (seven years ago)

Regardless of whether Biden was really giving it serious thought, or is it was just his advisors giving it serious thought, he has surrounded himself with a terrible thought team that also leaked their terrible serious thoughts to the press. Not a good sign for his campaign (which is a good thing for everyone else)

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Saturday, 23 March 2019 14:25 (seven years ago)

That post brought to you by the number 2

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Saturday, 23 March 2019 14:26 (seven years ago)

potential biden candidacy a huge hilarious joke until further notice

― jolene club remix (BradNelson), Tuesday, February 26, 2019 12:14 PM (three weeks ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Saturday, 23 March 2019 14:28 (seven years ago)

He answered the hot dog question like the questions they give during McKinsey interviews.


lmaooo

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Saturday, 23 March 2019 14:46 (seven years ago)

Buttigieg is canvassing w Tina Belge, a young state senate candidate here. A group of girls just walked by and asked why cameras were following: “Oh, we thought it was a prom-posal video.” pic.twitter.com/Z9mEIC0WPi

— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) March 23, 2019

j., Saturday, 23 March 2019 16:45 (seven years ago)

what is a prom-posal video? do i want to know?

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Saturday, 23 March 2019 17:20 (seven years ago)

also, sorry to sound like a fanboy, but i think buttegieg threads this needle very well here:

Interesting @PeteButtigieg answer on whether Mueller findings could end the Trump presidency. Short answer: Not really! pic.twitter.com/bWehHeq1GS

— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) March 23, 2019

this is basically what some of my friends have been saying, but less diplomatically

he's maybe being too diplomatic (i'm not convinced that most of those who pulled the level for trump had "economic anxiety" or whatever; there were 100,000s of well-off professionals who decided to vote for a racist scumbag because hating black people and latinos feels good, man) but he's a politician

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Saturday, 23 March 2019 17:26 (seven years ago)

most = many

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Saturday, 23 March 2019 17:26 (seven years ago)

xxxps to crut: no, but i was born and lived in the vicinity for my first 25 years and visit often

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 24 March 2019 12:36 (seven years ago)

Buttigieg/Belge in 2020.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 24 March 2019 12:48 (seven years ago)

we're a year out but at least this is not a national primary poll.

1. buttmentum. 2. klobuchar needs to do well in IA more than most. wouldn't want to be on her team right now (or ever).

Now this'll get people talking...new Emerson poll of Iowa:

• Biden - 25%
• Sanders - 24%
• Buttigieg - 11%
• Harris - 10%
• Warren - 9%
...https://t.co/o4WHsyetvl

— Gabriel Debenedetti (@gdebenedetti) March 24, 2019

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 24 March 2019 19:21 (seven years ago)

lmfao

almost too dank for human viewing pic.twitter.com/nGt3G65VlW

— Mike Gravel (@MikeGravel) March 24, 2019

global tetrahedron, Sunday, 24 March 2019 19:23 (seven years ago)

lollllllllll top 3 dem candidates are white men

you know who deserves sitewide mod privileges? (m bison), Sunday, 24 March 2019 19:26 (seven years ago)

Iowa's a pretty white state.

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 24 March 2019 19:44 (seven years ago)

lollllllllll top 3 dem candidates are white men


p sure our alt-right friends would not describe that field the same way

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Sunday, 24 March 2019 19:52 (seven years ago)

almost too dank for human viewing pic.twitter.com/nGt3G65VlW
— Mike Gravel (@MikeGravel) March 24, 2019

the shtick was mildly funny when you could sustain (barely) the idea that a 90something former senator was relentlessly shitposting on twitter, but they went too far and gave the same away. now it's just another set of chapo-watching smart alecs who happen to be mike gravel's grand newphews or whatever.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Sunday, 24 March 2019 20:28 (seven years ago)

*game

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Sunday, 24 March 2019 20:29 (seven years ago)

"I also think our party should be focussing on the issues that made his presidency possible in the first place" = good to hear buttigieg is a socialist

PaulDananVEVO (||||||||), Sunday, 24 March 2019 20:33 (seven years ago)

i just listened to 2 minutes straight of julian castro talking about the implications of the mueller stuff today, and i can 100% scientifically guarantee that he will not win

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Sunday, 24 March 2019 21:50 (seven years ago)

i don't even disagree with what he's saying, he's just too boring

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Sunday, 24 March 2019 21:51 (seven years ago)

I forgot about Julian Castro. Is he still running?

⅋ (crüt), Sunday, 24 March 2019 23:25 (seven years ago)

Apparently Buttigieg hasn’t actually declared his candidacy so who knows who’s running

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Sunday, 24 March 2019 23:45 (seven years ago)


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