"oh you don't get me I'm the end of the union": lol brexit is how we're all gonna die

brexit has been a great

equalizer

listening to dominic grieve on the bbc earlier I wouldn’t be surprised if tory mps don’t start moving the other way

ie away from her deal

Her only leverage in parliament comes from the fear that her appalling management of the country provokes – the prospect that she is incompetent enough to allow the worst to happen.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/mar/20/the-guardian-view-on-may-and-brexit-a-prime-minister-gone-rogue

if it wasn't for brexit even grieve's mum wasn't even sure who he was. Such a low sympathy rating for cunts who are only embarrassed to be a tory because of may being a 5th rate politician.

I agree with wes streeting - that was a very irresponsible speech she gave.

Corbyn apparently walked out of the meeting as Umunna had been invited without telling him.

― ShariVari, Wednesday, March 20, 2019 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I hope that's a lie, if not then fuck's sake.

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Eh, how come he didn't know? Guardian said earlier that all party leaders including TIG were to be invited.

― Dan Worsley, Wednesday, March 20, 2019 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I'd be pissed off in his position as well but this is really not the time to make yourself look petulant and childish.

― Matt DC, Wednesday, March 20, 2019 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

My PM still doing great

lisa nandy looked like she was moving towards the deal earlier today too; no more

May had an odd confidence to her during that speech, like when the female lead character in an old melodrama finally gives up and lets herself slide into irretrevable madness, the next scene should be of her burning down parliament and laughing as the flames engulf her

I’ve thought long and hard before saying this, but @theresa_may knows that MPs across the House are subjected to death threats - some very credible. Her speech was incendiary and irresponsible. If any harm comes to any of us, she will have to accept her share of responsibility.

— Wes Streeting MP (@wesstreeting) March 20, 2019

Sorry saw this referenced upthread but comrade quarter pounder is otm

It was a hard task, but from a couple of phone calls tonight, it seems like the prime minister’s speech has actually made Tory MPs more likely to vote against her deal

— Jessica Elgot (@jessicaelgot) March 20, 2019

Elgot also suggested the speech was delayed because May got caught up talking to some Tory MPs who had switched to the deal and were now on the verge of switching back to rejecting it.

This rallying cry is going well I see.

She didn’t attend the 1922 committee either so that can’t have helped.

She can literally walk into a room that supports her and turn them against her

I mean I do admire that quality, the start a fight in an empty room quality. I wonder if she’s somehow related to my family.

"Parliament has done everything possible to avoid making a choice"

UK PM Theresa May says she is not prepared to delay #Brexit any further than the 30 June and appeals to MPs to support her dealhttps://t.co/CJsmZ1OPT3 pic.twitter.com/UmAngdkV6X

— BBC News (UK) (@BBCNews) March 20, 2019

The delivery is pure Jackanory.

I mean she's not actually wrong that MPs do need to vote for something in its place, and there's no sign of them doing that.

But wow she is tanking this so badly, it would be hilarious if we weren't all gonna die.

I'm all for a version of all the UK political classes are going to die, genuine lol.

To be fair she should be giving over parliamentary time to allow that to happen. Parliament hasn’t been overly keen on parliament deciding either.

Not that she is susceptible to logic but if she truly believes that ‘the people’ want the deal more than parliament then she should call a general election or second referendum.

she's the Prime Minister the UK deserves, but not the one it needs right now

she truly believes no such thing no more than anyone talking about 14.7m people believes that that is a mandate to wreck the gaff

its all an attempt to have a historical record that can be pointed to in twenty years and have it claimed that "nobody could have known it was a very confusing time" cf iraq today

🐦[It was a hard task, but from a couple of phone calls tonight, it seems like the prime minister’s speech has actually made Tory MPs more likely to vote against her deal
— Jessica Elgot (@jessicaelgot) March 20, 2019🕸]🐦

now hoping for meaningful vote no 3 so that may can break her own record for most catastrophic commons defeat

what if she stays prime minister forever

feels like she already has been tbh

the iron chancellor they'll call her

she does have that crushing, time-warping ability to make a week feel like forever.

and yet three years has flown by

Spot on from Beckett: Corbyn has a constitutionally important position, Umunna doesn’t, the meeting was just for show, and the TIG invite to cause a distraction. It’s @ChrisLeslieMP that comes off as “petulant” pic.twitter.com/3Sw7O71vTn

— Michael Walker (@michaeljswalker) March 20, 2019

Some absolutely colossal comments from CH tonight. You can never say they don’t rise to the occasion.

Agreed. Just heard Margaret Beckett attack Mrs May on LBC now in a manner that was hateful (and I mean that). She was attacking Mrs May without any regard for the failings that we/I can see and that are probably related to the PM having a developmental disorder such as ASD. Then there's Corbyn giving Chukka the cold shoulder at a time of national emergency when both were invited in to see the PM. Now Chukka is young, eloquent, very good looking and represents modern Labour and I just wonder why Jeremy Corbyn wouldn't stay in the same room as him? I don't agree with any of Chukka's politics but I would be more than happy to talk to him and try and convince him of the merits of conservatism?Chukka is right to chuck the old divisive politics. Shame he can't find some sensible ones. I expect more nasty attacks to come because Tusk has put the spotlight on to the Labour shadow front bench and they are all awful.

I was watching, I was waiting, what was she going to say that was of such great import?

So where was the resignation? Where was the promise to resign as soon as her deal was over the threshold? Her Conservative colleagues needed a sweetener. You always get more with honey than vinegar... and she is plying vinegar by the bucket load and is absolutely devoid of honey.

The ERG should now give the nod to Corbyn and let an election take place.

Everything is ready if our hearts and minds are in the trim - and by God they are.

lol, the idea of dragging a reluctant Chukka into open torydom!

CH?

To hold a general election on the same day as the Locals it has to be announced next Wed. CH might get its wish

xp
conservative home, where self-hating ilxers go to prepare themselves for death!

i get that fix from going on follow follow

Yes, that really is being a glutton for punishment. (xp)

Let’s have locals one week, generals the second, 2nd ref the third and euros the forth. Together we can make May fun again.

Has this speech gone down well with anyone? I wonder if she had another speech prepared, hence the delay as she changed her mind and improvised this drivel.

Some Spectator writers loved it and how it appealed to the little people.

jesus we're right over here yknow

just in case this gets dragged out until the last minute, is that last minute Thursday 23:59 EU time or is it UK time?

EU time, there is a faction of MPs trying to get Big Ben, currently undergoing engineering work, to bong specially at 11pm U.K. time to mark th occasion.

The Death Knell Committee

Re: Corbyn, it doesn't actually matter if the meeting's a sham - it's better to go and then tell everybody it was a sham and then keep the pressure on the PM while making yourself look like the only grown-up in the room at a time of national crisis. (Or better still make Chuka leave for the very valid reason that he isn't a party leader).

It doesn't matter that much but it does hand a small propaganda victory to the Indie Group (won't help them if there's an election, mind). As it is there's a story being spun, that a lot of people believe, that we have two stubborn, intransigent leaders taking the country to the brink of national crisis. You only want people to believe half of that. I know we over-use the word 'optics' these days, but still, it's the optics.

When Corbyn walked out of that meeting you just know that Chuka was invisibly punching the air with delight.

idk, he secured the bilateral meeting he wanted (a telephone call late last night) and gets to show he is not going to be pushed around by May. There was a narrative emerging last night that Corbyn would cave on the text of the withdrawal agreement in favour of amending the non-binding political statement around it - which this pretty quickly killed.

I

chuka would have had his PR win anyway - he would come out carping about the broken intransigence of our two main party leaders AND he would have stuck the knife into JC in particular given that TIG are a labour spoiler op. may will have known there was a chance JC would just leave - either way, if he stays, she still gets to go on the ten saying MPs have failed you now have licence to lamp them in the street

the stunt will backfire for the conservatives in the med-long term tho: TM needs labour votes to pass her deals. so she needs to create scenarios which strengthen JC. his walkout gives a free hit to LDs/TIG/SNP so lab need to shore up against those remain forces. so they can’t then move towards her deal. she has done this repeatedly: made it harder and harder for labour votes to cross the aisle toward her (see eg the struggling town fund)

MDC OTM. When someone too junior somehow inveigles their way into a meeting like that, the right thing to do is send *them* away. Terrible optics, though - Robbie Gibb must’ve been texting around the Westminster press pool with glee.