2020 Democratic presidential primary

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Good on Gillum for focusing on voter registration.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 14:15 (seven years ago)

yeah, def

i'm w/ tato, super hot AND weird!! (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 14:17 (seven years ago)

maybe mayor pete would be the best candidate

Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 14:18 (seven years ago)

i didn't know much about him before (lol) monday, but i've read a few profiles and watched him speak and i like the way he approaches things -- essentially pragmatic without being obtuse. he cuts through a lot of the nonsense of our moment

Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 14:20 (seven years ago)

But does he have a favorite Jesus Lizard record?

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 14:23 (seven years ago)

he’s got a knack for positioning presumptively “radical” notions like m4a, ubi, or court-packing as midwestern common sense.

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 14:27 (seven years ago)

When asked this morning if he thought eliminating the Electoral College was a good idea, he said, "Yes" without hesitation. When asked about reparation, he spoke for two minutes on the legacy of slavery and Jim Crow. The guy isn't afraid to use his obvious brain.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 14:30 (seven years ago)

yeah that's the other cool thing about him--he is actually inquisitive and has interests outside of burnishing his ego

Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 14:35 (seven years ago)

he taught himself norwegian because he was interested in an author (forget which one)

Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 14:35 (seven years ago)

my kind of bro

Trϵϵship, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 14:35 (seven years ago)

Mayor Pete seems to be making fans everywhere he goes. It's kind of remarkable. If Beto is this vague idea (that almost worked in Texas), Pete seems to be those vague ideas stated and fleshed out and put in practice. It's kind of sad how with he and Warren, everyone is basically "I love you and your ideas, sorry you can't be president."

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 14:37 (seven years ago)

he taught himself norwegian because he was interested in an author (forget which one)

― Trϵϵship, 20. marts 2019 15:35 (four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This rubs me the wrong way, though

Frederik B, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 14:42 (seven years ago)

is that right

k3vin k., Wednesday, 20 March 2019 14:42 (seven years ago)

lol

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 14:43 (seven years ago)

he was interested in an author (forget which one)

Erland Loe

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 14:44 (seven years ago)

he can’t win bc he doesn’t pound tables or cast himself/his supporters as the hero in a story about Protecting White America or Standing Up To Wall Street or Being in a Band in the 90s...

but I’ve enjoyed watching people I respect here and irl kinda come around on him as he gets more exposure. it’s kinda like that moment when your friend is like “so I’m finally gonna start The Wire...”

I’m happy to support him until I find a reason not to.

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 14:46 (seven years ago)

Warren/Mayor Pete is Dream Ticket stuff.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 14:52 (seven years ago)

He's also a good "all politics is local" example. Indiana (for example) at large is getting more right wing by the election, but not every crazy red state is thoroughly red or crazy. Mayor Pete can hold office in Indiana just as some of the more extremist ideas Pence pushed didn't make it. It's an important reminder that no matter how 2020 goes, local and grassroots stuff can't let up.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 14:56 (seven years ago)

and I forgot for ten minutes he was gay. I want to think that that's how Indianans regard him too.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 15:05 (seven years ago)

i like his general demeanor, listening to his morning joe interview. but his M4A answer is fairly weak IMHO - just adding the public option that should have been in the ACA, which doesn't give the government much carrot/stick to bring costs down. as far as i'm understanding the issue currently.

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 15:09 (seven years ago)

https://i.imgur.com/m7TNv3g.png

they're not booing you, sir, they're shouting "Boo'd Up" (Will M.), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 15:15 (seven years ago)

abortion answer could be punchier too. i think his pitch of mayoral competence and working stuff out and making the calls that keep a city functioning is definitely interesting, but by itself it doesn't tell me much about the values and priorities that would inform how he would make those calls.

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 15:27 (seven years ago)

In 2012, @BetoORourke called for significant spending cuts and said we need to address extravagant government spending and out of control debt. It was true then when the federal debt was $16T and it's true today with the debt now $22T.

— Howard Schultz (@HowardSchultz) March 20, 2019

Simon H., Wednesday, 20 March 2019 16:28 (seven years ago)

yeah we need lower T

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 16:29 (seven years ago)

Schultz has finger on the pulse of the Democratic electorate, focusing the conversation on the real issues

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 16:50 (seven years ago)

such a weird approach. "hey kids, betcha don't think deficit reduction is so uncool now that you know the punk rock counter-jumping candidate was talking about it seven years ago, do ya? so vote for him! I mean me, vote for me!"

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 17:01 (seven years ago)

He's also a good "all politics is local" example. Indiana (for example) at large is getting more right wing by the election, but not every crazy red state is thoroughly red or crazy. Mayor Pete can hold office in Indiana just as some of the more extremist ideas Pence pushed didn't make it. It's an important reminder that no matter how 2020 goes, local and grassroots stuff can't let up.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, March 20, 2019 2:56 PM (two hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i agree w/ your general conclusion, but in re. south bend, it's a sizable college town, those have a tendency to have democratic leaders, even in very red states.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 17:02 (seven years ago)

howard schultz is really working toward a remarkable density of hatefulness.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 17:02 (seven years ago)

Buttigieg on how running for the Presidency is more like Ulysses than Finnegan's Wake. That's it, I'm totally Gay 4 Pete

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a26861236/peter-buttigieg-interview/

akm, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 21:53 (seven years ago)

god a president who has read a book can you imagine

moose; squirrel (silby), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 22:36 (seven years ago)

I don't believe Barack Obama's annual reading lists one bit

moose; squirrel (silby), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 22:36 (seven years ago)

nor his film lists. it's like he takes the average of critical taste.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 22:40 (seven years ago)

I know South Bend, but my broader point was not that there is a place Mayor Pete could be elected but that even against the state's conservative tide his voice can still be heard and amplified, and there are people listening.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 22:43 (seven years ago)

a hard-stop, legislated(!!), 7d limit rx on opiates is pretty fucking dumb, even for acute conditions

for whatever it’s worth at this point, this is the same bill Gillibrand introduced last year, one that aiui is based on existing nys law (with plenty of exceptions), one that died in its senate committee last year and will likely do the same now. My endorsement here, such as it is, is based on the conviction that we would be better off addressing pain management from a position of opiate scarcity that compelled greater service monitoring and treatment. I agree with your desire for greater dependency screening tools, as I expressed upthread, and see this as an intermediate step towards creating a better pain management regiment around lifestyle coaching and other approaches. I was trolling a little yesterday since I think we not only need a different approach to pain rx but a more expansive conversation about the psychosomatic nature of pain and the ability to address it through the window of greater opioid regulatory scrutiny, the kind that existed prior to 2000. I don’t think we get anywhere by assuming the current regulatory and prescriptive norm is the only path to addressing the very real pain many people suffer from but are not given the tools to understand. And I think the layperson’s understanding of this issue is even further eroded at this point, as we see various posters expressing upthread.

sciatica, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 23:28 (seven years ago)

Warren/Mayor Pete is Dream Ticket stuff.

― a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, March 20, 2019 9:52 AM (eight hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Was literally just thinking this the other day.

jaymc, Wednesday, 20 March 2019 23:52 (seven years ago)

is Pete more critical of Israel than Liz?

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 23:55 (seven years ago)

He mentions I/P issues in the esquire interview upthread I’ll let you decide how his answers fit your rubric

moose; squirrel (silby), Wednesday, 20 March 2019 23:58 (seven years ago)

I don't believe Barack Obama's annual reading lists one bit

― moose; squirrel (silby), Wednesday, March 20, 2019 6:36 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

nor his film lists. it's like he takes the average of critical taste.

― affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Wednesday, March 20, 2019

I believe his book more than film lists. He's a rabid NPR/NY Book Review reader/consumer of taste.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 21 March 2019 00:03 (seven years ago)

damn that was a good joyce answer

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Thursday, 21 March 2019 00:20 (seven years ago)

I don’t think we get anywhere by assuming the current regulatory and prescriptive norm is the only path to addressing the very real pain many people suffer from but are not given the tools to understand. And I think the layperson’s understanding of this issue is even further eroded at this point, as we see various posters expressing upthread.


go on...

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 21 March 2019 00:33 (seven years ago)

damn that was a good joyce answer


it’s a known thing that if you mention Joyce you’re going to have your work cut out to shut him up.

definitely not disqualifying :D

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 21 March 2019 00:34 (seven years ago)

I will never stop laughing if teen shitposters actually manage to get Gravel onto any of those debate stages.

Simon H., Thursday, 21 March 2019 02:07 (seven years ago)

Warren/Mayor Pete is Dream Ticket stuff.

― a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, March 20, 2019 9:52 AM (eleven hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ha, I just said nearly this exact same thing elsewhere.

⅋ (crüt), Thursday, 21 March 2019 02:44 (seven years ago)

Asked at #CNNTownHall why he saw X-rated film w/his mom, Hickenlooper says he didn’t realize how graphic movie was and he planned to see it with friend. Home from college, he was about to bolt during dinner. He asked if she wanted to join. “So I took my mother to see Deep Throat”

— Manu Raju (@mkraju) March 21, 2019

j., Thursday, 21 March 2019 03:05 (seven years ago)

OK, you guys are pretty smart. It was indeed Buttigieg—who on the one hand is very much in his element among the self-selected audience at a 538 live podcast @ NYU. But on the other hand, we've done quite a few live shows and have not seen many reactions like that. https://t.co/nmsoaVot7b

— Nate Silver (@NateSilver538) March 21, 2019

buttigiegentum

but i'm there are fuckups (Karl Malone), Thursday, 21 March 2019 03:19 (seven years ago)

wonder if he’ll get enough free media over the balance of this year to make his candidacy viable, and does that even matter if activists start flocking, these questions have no answers

moose; squirrel (silby), Thursday, 21 March 2019 03:43 (seven years ago)

If the campaign press take a shine to him, as they appear to be doing, it would boost his profile considerably. The flip side of that is that they'll then tear him down because they can.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 21 March 2019 04:09 (seven years ago)

I think America is ready to hop on the Butti train.

⅋ (crüt), Thursday, 21 March 2019 04:14 (seven years ago)

https://twitter.com/search?q=%23FeelTheButt&src=tyah

jaymc, Thursday, 21 March 2019 04:19 (seven years ago)

https://i.imgur.com/F1d0Y0O.jpg

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 21 March 2019 04:25 (seven years ago)


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