2020 Democratic presidential primary

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This is Bernie’s new press secretary? Really? https://t.co/rYcFi0uJRc

— Scott Stedman (@ScottMStedman) March 19, 2019

Johnny Fever, Tuesday, 19 March 2019 18:47 (seven years ago)

Beto sucks and is pointless.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 18:52 (seven years ago)

xpost -- I just saw this tweet in the context of Aaron Rupar interpreting it as Gray claiming the hacks were an inside job by the DNC, which is somehow even dumber than the tweet itself.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 18:54 (seven years ago)

I think I thought the same in 2016, tbf, not that I should be anyone's press secretary.

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 18:59 (seven years ago)

*Sept 2016

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 19:05 (seven years ago)

more feigned outrage from the usual twitter shitheads. "Ugh. Really? So over Bernie."

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 19:09 (seven years ago)

I want to flag another thing about this @PeteButtigieg interview. He talks about race and the economy in a way that gets beyond the tedious "LOL but economic anxiety" versus "not everyone in Trump country is racist" debate:https://t.co/2IqZ9MlFsn pic.twitter.com/QH0dch2d09

— Greg Sargent (@ThePlumLineGS) March 19, 2019

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 19:11 (seven years ago)

there need to be alternate sources for food and lodging

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 19:14 (seven years ago)

TIL a Buttigieg stance that gives me pause

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/2020-candidate-pete-buttigieg-troubled-by-clemency-for-chelsea-manning/

Simon H., Tuesday, 19 March 2019 19:25 (seven years ago)

I've enjoyed Buttigieg's statements and policy positions, and he's one of the best speakers in the pack, but can't he run for governor or senator?

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 19:28 (seven years ago)

I agree ^

β…‹ (crΓΌt), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 19:34 (seven years ago)

w/Alfred I mean

β…‹ (crΓΌt), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 19:35 (seven years ago)

We talked about that yesterday. No senate election in Indiana in 2020. Not sure about gov.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 19:36 (seven years ago)

Oof there is one and the republican one it with 51% of the vote.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 19:37 (seven years ago)

*won

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 19:37 (seven years ago)

I think Butty is running as a "pioneer"

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 19:49 (seven years ago)

xpost and a libertarian got 3.2%
Kind of an uphill climb for the Dems

We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 19:51 (seven years ago)

The Snowden/Manning opinion isn't controversial. Or at least I see it enough from very progressive people that they knowingly broke the law, it doesn't matter for whose greater good it was.

Yerac, Tuesday, 19 March 2019 19:55 (seven years ago)

So...Sanders' new press secretary, Briana Joy? I watched that SXSW interview with AOC that she conducted and thought she was a little empty-headed but generally OK, but now I'm reading that she voted for Jill Stein in 2016 and said "but I live in New York so it's OK". So...go Bernie!

grawlix (unperson), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 20:16 (seven years ago)

unperson why do you care about this

Simon H., Tuesday, 19 March 2019 20:19 (seven years ago)

If we want to end the opioid epidemic, we must work to address the root causes of abuse. That’s why @SenCoryGardner and I introduced legislation to limit opioid prescriptions for acute pain to 7 days. Because no one needs a month’s supply for a wisdom tooth extraction.

— Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (@gillibrandny) March 15, 2019



This seems not super well thought out.

Simon H., Tuesday, 19 March 2019 20:23 (seven years ago)

Oh fuck that

moose; squirrel (silby), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 20:24 (seven years ago)

Kirsten Gillibrand is lame

heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 20:28 (seven years ago)

problem solved. good work.

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 20:30 (seven years ago)

unperson why do you care about this

People who make bad staffing decisions make other kinds of bad decisions. And since I am anti-Bernie generally, I will present evidence of his badness as a candidate as it crops up.

grawlix (unperson), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 20:30 (seven years ago)

what's wrong with that opiod rx proposal?

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 20:32 (seven years ago)

I think Gray has written some good stuff for Current Affairs iirc but she really does suck on Twitter, I refollowed her maybe a couple of weeks ago and then unfollowed her again like yesterday I think. at least now she's getting paid to stan for Bernie, there is more honesty in that (note: I'm NOT anti-Bernie).

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 20:35 (seven years ago)

People who make bad staffing decisions make other kinds of bad decisions

so because she's "airheaded" acc to your shining perceptions and voted for Stein in New York, she will be a bad press secretary. got it.

Simon H., Tuesday, 19 March 2019 20:36 (seven years ago)

She's a bad journalist, why do you think she'd be a good press secretary (someone who deals with journalists all day and night)?

grawlix (unperson), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 20:37 (seven years ago)

Voting for Jill Stein anywhere if you're over 18 is a sign of decay.

recriminations from the nitpicking woke (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 20:37 (seven years ago)

xps it seems pretty arbitrary and lumping the needs of patients in longer recovery (who need pain management of more than 7 days out of the gate) w/ "wisdom tooth" dig is unnecessarily belittling

heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 20:38 (seven years ago)

She's a bad journalist, why do you think she'd be a good press secretary (someone who deals with journalists all day and night)?

you didn't like her in a youtube interview and now she's a bad journalist

Simon H., Tuesday, 19 March 2019 20:40 (seven years ago)

as someone who works in the medical field and also has a parent addicted to Rx opioids I’m entirely in favor of the Gillibrand/Booker proposal and have been advocating for similar restrictions for years. Opioids have limited effectiveness against both acute and recurring pain anyway. There are other solutions.

sciatica, Tuesday, 19 March 2019 20:41 (seven years ago)

legislation should not be introduced via tweets, unless there is bigger documentation linked to it. That tweet is just weird.

I assume she made of point of saying acute pain rather than all pain or chronic pain.

Yerac, Tuesday, 19 March 2019 20:41 (seven years ago)

also, what do you know about the senior staff of the other candidates? many of them are probably DC lifers with way fucking darker skeletons to dig up.than anything Gray's got xxp

Simon H., Tuesday, 19 March 2019 20:42 (seven years ago)

agreed that the wisdom teeth dig is awful.

i don't know what their definition of acute (vs chronic) pain is.

do you think it should be a bigger number than 7 or do you object to the limit in principle?

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 20:43 (seven years ago)

xpost military hospitals were giving my dad like 500 ct bottles of hydrocodone probably because he was bitchy enough about getting it. It was absurd.

Yerac, Tuesday, 19 March 2019 20:45 (seven years ago)

Voting for Jill Stein anywhere if you're over 18 is a sign of decay.

i may have said this about reading the National Review Online

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 20:46 (seven years ago)

i was given a 7 day rx w for an opiod when i had a wisdom tooth out. i didn't mention pain, much less ask for an rx. i have also had two MRIs since i moved here. i'm quite healthy. the US health system is so unbelievably weird.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 20:47 (seven years ago)

Yerac correct here, per her website

This seven-day prescription limit would not apply to the treatment of chronic pain; pain being treated as part of cancer care, hospice care, or other end-of-life care; or pain treated as part of palliative care.

heinrich boll weevil (Hadrian VIII), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 20:48 (seven years ago)

i just want M4A, cuz the Obamacare cancer co-pays are killin' me

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 20:50 (seven years ago)

Basically, the tweet is just bad. Don't talk about the root cause of a major problem and then follow with a very niche solution that places the focus on one random scenario.

When I had all my impacted wisdom teeth out I didn't even bother filling the prescription. My biggest pain was that I wanted to eat a calzone really badly.

Yerac, Tuesday, 19 March 2019 20:51 (seven years ago)

The wisdom teeth dig is great, no one needs opioids for after that surgery ffs

I don’t understand what people are complaining about, that she made a tweet that didn’t spell out the entire policy? There’s other, worse ways to use twitter, as you al, are familiar with

sciatica, Tuesday, 19 March 2019 20:53 (seven years ago)

*y’all

sciatica, Tuesday, 19 March 2019 20:54 (seven years ago)

Don't read the comments on that tweet. People really like their pain meds.

Yerac, Tuesday, 19 March 2019 20:54 (seven years ago)

do you think it should be a bigger number than 7 or do you object to the limit in principle?

― π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, March 19, 2019

I object to arbitrary-ass grandstanding around standards of care.

The wisdom teeth dig is great, no one needs opioids for after that surgery ffs

― sciatica, Tuesday, March 19, 2019

imma go out on a limb here and speculate that some people do. not that i really gaf about this particular procedure but trivializing post-op pain is nagl.

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 20:59 (seven years ago)

"acute" doesn't mean "less than 7 days". if i'm checking out of hospital with a broken leg, that's going to be more than 7 days of acute pain management, and i'd be impacted by this. refilling is going to be tricky if i live alone.

that said, i don't know a ton about opiod addiction and 7 day limit seems like a ball park reasonable compromise in the context of news like this:

in a way, America really is quite exceptional. you don't see this kind of thing in peer nations https://t.co/HLvKX0vZSI

— ryan cooper (@ryanlcooper) March 19, 2019

but is overgenerous prescription actually the problem here? isn't it imported fentanyl in the US mail at this point?

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 21:01 (seven years ago)

The Snowden/Manning opinion isn't controversial. Or at least I see it enough from very progressive people that they knowingly broke the law, it doesn't matter for whose greater good it was.

― Yerac, Tuesday, March 19, 2019 7:55 PM (fifty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah, but buttigieg said specifically that he was "troubled" by obama's decision to commute manning's sentence, not just that he was bothered by what manning and snowden did. even if you are critical of manning, i'm a little surprised that any "very progressive" person thinks that she deserved to spend 35 years in prison.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 21:01 (seven years ago)

I was in plenty of pain after getting one wisdom tooth out. Idea that I shouldn't be able to get painkillers because addicts exist is bizarre to me.

As is the bizarre notion that you can combat addiction via supply.there will always be opiates you can acquire if you want them

( Ν‘β˜‰ ΝœΚ– Ν‘β˜‰) (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 19 March 2019 21:02 (seven years ago)

They just need to make marijuana federally legal for recreational and medical purposes and take all of the Sackler family's money.

Yerac, Tuesday, 19 March 2019 21:03 (seven years ago)


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