2020 Democratic presidential primary

xxp to Simon

I agree with everything in that housing plan except the rent control part at the end. But I am giving her the benefit of the doubt.

I mean, Wall Street companies shouldn't influence localities initiatives wrt to rent control but rent control is a failed policy that has tremendously benefited the rich over the working classes.

disagreed on rent control (but we have a thread for that). it's a pretty good housing policy package! i wish it did more in a mission-to-the-moon sense but it's amazing to see a campaign where candidates even bother to *have* a housing policy - and to talk about cities and low-income renters and redlining, not just tax breaks for the "middle class."

Yeah Warren’s policy posts have been fantastic, kinda bummed she ain’t even in the top 3 in the polls.

she's my top choice, but she's def speaking to ppl who sweat the small stuff. kinda feel like she'd be a good vp pick for anyone who wins. except biden, cuz he'd probably pick o'rourke.

If she's not the nominee, I want her in the Senate where maybe some of her policies have a chance if they manage to take it back in 2020.

If Warren doesn't win, she's still in the senate until at least 2024.

Joe Biden says that he stopped his driver on the way to tonight's state Democratic dinner to give a homeless woman "whatever was in my pocket" — stops sparking applause by saying "no, no, no, it's not about me."

— Alex Thomas (@AlexThomasDC) March 16, 2019

he's running

“stopped his driver” sheesh

noblesse ojeez

Joe Biden should have done it and kept his mouth shut about it.

hasn't he done this before? he did, I remember...but he was quieter about it

He only told his canadian girlfriend about it.

did that homeless woman even want his lint and Amtrak ticket stub

also some expired credit cards

so wait, I'm not keeping up with this because democracy is a farce, but PsychedelicWarlord from the Cult of the Dead Cow is running for President?

has kibo announced yet?

Acid Phreak 2024

Biden said last night he'd be the most progressive candidate in the race

throw that coot a dictionary

He's talking about his age.

Perhaps Biden can bearhug that young wife and talk about it. https://t.co/7syGodnONI

— Richard M. Nixon (@dick_nixon) March 16, 2019

lmao he also made a reference to being a "tactile" politician and that this also gets him into "trouble"

don't blame me, i voted for razor 1911

A person from the American midwest knowing some of a Scandinavian language = magic?

Uh, ok I guess. Musta slept through the Garrison Kiellor presidency

I just saw this: Buttigieg (pronounced BOOT-edge-edge)

Indiana aint the heartland of the Scand emigrants

DOVER, Del. (AP) — Did Joe Biden accidentally reveal his plans to run for the White House? Or was it just another slip of the tongue by the former vice president with a reputation for veering off script?

In a keynote speech at a dinner for the Delaware Democratic Party, Biden boasted Saturday that he has “the most progressive record of anybody running.” The only problem is that Biden hasn’t announced whether he will launch a third run for the White House, despite repeatedly teasing the possibility.

He quickly corrected himself, clarifying that he meant to say “anybody who would run,” then adding “I didn’t mean it” while a cheering crowd in his home state nearly drowned him out.

step aside Joe

gillibrand is official

I’m running for president. Let’s prove that brave wins. Join me: https://t.co/I1vp93LBUR pic.twitter.com/Giu4u4KEZQ

— Kirsten Gillibrand (@SenGillibrand) March 17, 2019

do best

be best

if i were running for president i would hire a musician to follow me around and play dramatic swelling piano whenever i spoke

I think Gillibrand was official a couple of weeks ago--she announced on one of the late-night talk shows.

Might have been a “I’m forming a committee to look into running” bs announcements

she 90% announced it on colbert back in january, but it wasn't official official until today, i guess

I assumed she was official weeks ago as well. the apparent Beto fundraising woes have me thinking anyone that's announcing this late is going to have cashflow problems if they're relying on small/non-PAC money

kinda seems like the top 6 is already in place (biden, sanders, harris, warren, booker, o'rourke). its hard for me to imagine anyone polling under 5% catapulting into serious consideration. ad i like castro, but competing with o'rourke for texas delegates helps neither's chances. feel like harris being the lone californian/west coaster in contention is an underappreciated aspect (sorry, inslee). granted, national name recognition will help biden and sanders, but them+warren+booker are all in the northeast.

Is Booker really polling above 5%? In my head he's got as much of a shot as the Booty Judge.

your head is not accurate. big booty jooty is a small-town mayor and cory booker is a u.s. senator.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/2020_democratic_presidential_nomination-6730.html

booker sitting in 5th on average

Warren's doing better than I thought she was!

I would like to see Buttigieg and Yang get enough coverage so that they could be a viable VP.

the more I learn about Yang and his fanbase, the more I fear and distrust his candidacy

I went back to look at 2008 early polling data, and even in November 2006 Obama was in second place behind Clinton (she had a 33%-15% lead). So it can't be explained away as easily as just "name recognition" for Biden I guess. It's true that Bernie and Biden are the biggest names in this pack and are leading accordingly, but they might also be people's actual favorites?

I do think Warren will be remarkable on the debate stage if she's allowed to speak for longer than 90 seconds.

hard to imagine how *anyone* will get to speak for more than 90 mins considering the number of candidates

This is prob some pollyanna bullshit but I hope (think?) that some of the lower polling candidates will drop out much sooner than similarly polling GOP dopes in 2015-2016. I just don’t believe the grift game is quite as good on this side of the aisle.

going by the real clear politics link m bison posted, the only three candidates that have a chance are biden, sanders, and harris (in that order).

i work in tech, and weirdly enough, there aren't a whole lot of yang supporters; at least not around me.

the problem with yang is his figures for automation replacing jobs are deceiving and it hasn't really affected jobs as much as people thought it would. also economists have recalculated automation's affect on the US (as of 2018) and have reduced it by something like 10%, which is still meaningful, but way less than before.

he is also basing most of his platform on a problem that might be an issue in 5 to 10 years, but not enough people are actually losing their jobs to automation right now, so it's hard for these people to take yang's word for it. and that makes sense. it's also hard for lower to middle-class midwesterners to trust a rich CEO who is a technocrat and not only inexperienced politically, but who is also pretty anonymous. the whole re-training aspect of his solution also has tons of holes in it, like what type of jobs would even be available in the towns where these people live, and would they want to take those jobs, and even want to be trained in doing them.

UBI is its own separate issue. it's complicated. but i question what these people will spend their UBI checks on and how that will actually create and/or increase demand in other sectors and jobs.

(xpost) Agree. The thing that sustained Trump in 2016 more than anything else was the large field (that stayed at three or four most of the way, as I remember it...Cruz, Rubio, and Kasich took forever to drop out). If that had narrowed fairly quickly early on, say Trump and somebody else, I think there would have been a much better chance he wouldn't have won. Which doesn't really mirror the Democratic field this year--they don't have a Trump in there--but a large field is chaotic, and chaos doesn't necessarily yield the best result.

I guess the obvious counter-argument is the Democratic nomination last time. Not a large field, narrowed to two almost immediately. Did not yield the best result.

The Hot Takes Are Bigger In Texas

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