"oh you don't get me I'm the end of the union": lol brexit is how we're all gonna die

voting on spelman now?

I didn’t realise the disgraced former Secretary was Scottish.

The Spelman amendment is being moved & this could split the Tories, let’s see...

How many MPs do you reckon go through the No Deal lobby?

200+

130 imo

I think Spelman is a whipped vote so in theory you’d expect to see some resignations (unless they abstain lol)

Which disgraced former secretary?

god willed the creation of the unitary nation state

Read this as 'god willed the creation of the urinary nation state'.

Disgraced former defence secretary Dr Liam Fox.

He doesn't sound Scottish to you?

liz truss on c4 news now coming across as an utter moron

312/308 😰😰😰

liz truss on c4 news now coming across as an utter moron

what the fuck

Fucking hell!

the truss

Can’t wait for the app to show the votes.

give us resignations

wtf

v cool that 308 mps are willing to strap the country into a suicide vest, good work everyone

Wait which way did the Cabinet vote?

ruled out no deal by four (FOUR) votes

Isn't there basically now a second vote on more or less the same thing?

Apparently every Remainy minister is voting with May and against their consciences - thus not to take no deal off table forever. "They're total pussycats" says senior Tory.

— Robert Peston (@Peston) March 13, 2019

Oooft that was tight

I’m guessing by those numbers at least some of them voted for the amendment, Matt, cos you’ll have had the DUP & a few Labour rebels voting with the government.

The House of Commons votes very narrowly for a motion to symbolically prevent a no-deal Brexit, while continuing to oppose anything that would actually prevent a no-deal Brexit.

— Adam Bienkov (@AdamBienkov) March 13, 2019

there's another vote right now that should be more decisive. i'm completely lost though.

Malthouse is “managed no deal” - they will leave without an agreement but pay the EU money for three years & adhere to an informal transition period. The problem is that it’s total fantasy.

(xxxp) Backbenchers though, not ministers.

please bear in mind "i'm completely lost though" before reading too much into "there's another vote right now that should be more decisive"

Isn't there also a second vote on preventing No Deal that May said she would vote in favour of? I have no fucking idea what's going on any more.

There could be resignations imminent: the government has lost the Spelman vote

Now there is a vote on Malthouse. Then there will be a vote on the amended motion, whipped against.

Pulling free vote angers remainers and they r threatening resignations

— Sam Coates Times (@SamCoatesTimes) March 13, 2019

lol

No the government motion isn’t happening because Spelman passing replaces it. So no free vote.

Oh wait I’m wrong sorry, that’ll be hilarious

these are the two amendments. the first one just passed.

No no-deal ever
Tabled by the West Midlands MPs Caroline Spelman and Jack Dromey and backed by senior figures from all sides of the Commons including Sir Oliver Letwin, Hilary Benn, Nick Boles and Yvette Cooper, as well as all 11 members of the Independent Group, this amendment simply rejects a no-deal Brexit at any time and under any circumstances.

Malthouse compromise
Tabled by a group of Conservative MPs drawn from both leave and remain wings of the party, this amendment calls for a delay to Brexit day from 29 March to 22 May to give time for preparations to leave without a deal. It says the government should then offer a “standstill” agreement with the EU and its member states, lasting up to the end of 2021 at the latest, during which the UK would pay into EU budgets and observe legal obligations while a permanent relationship is negotiated.

The no-deal amendment is non-binding.

I'm completely confused, doesn't this contradict what May said after losing yesterday's vote?

I haven't the faintest clue as to what is happening right now and I'm beginning to think that it's not because I'm not a Brit.

Just looking in to see how things are going. Parliament seems to be in a bit of a muddle now, don't they? Ah well, I'm sure it will all be sorted out soon. Cheerio!

Yes it’s non binding but at this stage it’s pretty clear government will likely have to extend so will have to pass an extension? Who knows idk

Lol Malthouse amendment got bodied

JRM now spouting about the will of the people

government whipping for no deal then basically ?

great stuff

The votes for Malthouse are up but not Spelman.

Dennis Skinner and Kate Hoey voted for it!

Hunt, Javid, Leadsom, Mordaunt, Williamson all apparently voted for Malthouse.

They did.

Can’t believe they’re whipping against their own fucking motion.

Can I move a motion that we have a new thread soon?

I believe it's because the amendment ruled out No Deal "in all circumstances" - which could in theory lead to a sequence of events in which the UK unilaterally revokes Article 50 as it's the only remaining option.

One thing that doesn't get mentioned much is that No Deal would represent probably the biggest single shock to the *global* economy since 2008, it would be an insane act of self-harm for any EU member to veto an extension. Doesn't mean one of them won't.

brutal