"oh you don't get me I'm the end of the union": lol brexit is how we're all gonna die

just on the white vote point, bush’s piece on the recent University of Manchester’s revisionist Runnymede Report (on the 2017 GE) was interesting:

And that’s perhaps the most important lesson here: that the Conservative position among ethnic minorities is worse than we thought and that a great deal of work, both in terms of increasing affluence and reducing the reasons why ethnic minority voters distrust the Conservative Party, is required.

also

The significant lesson is that Cameron’s big electoral success wasn’t among well-paid ethnic minorities but among their white neighbours. This is revealing of a broader part of the importance of David Cameron’s political project: it’s not just that in a more diverse democracy, you need to get ethnic minorities to vote for you – in a diverse, fairly well-integrated democracy like the United Kingdom, increasingly it will be a bar that has to be passed among white voters, too.

the fact that they did do better among British Jews is “visibly and obviously” not anything positive to do with the Tory party. only positive news for them is British Indians.

that they’re not doing anything to rescue this situation is fairly obvious from the news.

what’s not clear to me is how much it matters politically, which surely must depend strongly on how demographics play out across cities, suburbs, towns and rural constituencies.

link here sorry.

report here.

xxp why are the same people fucking obsessed with the ~Corbyn outriders and presenting themselves as though they’re the ones in the minority? Swear to fucking God like 99% of people obsessed with Grace Blakely think that ordinary voters know or care who she is.

It’s telling that everyone accusing Seumas Milne of coordinating a WhatsApp group for leftie commentators is a member of Tom Watson’s ‘birthday’ WhatsApp group.

None of this is complicated is it?

Except the whole "why don't you own your right wingness?" but i think i understand that

what do we make of the recent set of leaked emails to the times ?

Don’t think I claimed it was complicated, it’s really ducking obvious. But some commentators seem to think it’s not 😶🙃

xp not great, a lot of these people should be sacked & procedures seem unfit for purpose.

Worth pointing out that that ILX was calling Seumas Milne a prick years before it was cool.

talking of political friendships, how the fuck can you trust some cunt who is simultaneously friends with Peter fucking cunt Mandelson + George shit eating dog Galloway?

sorry that was harsh on poor shit eating dogs.

Sorry gyac i wasn't complaining at you, just a general shout at the mystification of commemtary that can't talk about class

A lot of this public class definition is carried out by upper/upper-middle class media types who assign working-class status to lower-middles like Jess Phillips.

ppl like jess phillips/tory working class wankers seem to think their own parents social mobility is something anyone can achieve if they have the requisite character and are not the no-good undeserving w/c elements that just don't seem to want to get ahead.

Regional accent = working class to these clowns. So the succession of red faced Yorkshiremen who inspired the whole Gammon phenomenon somehow got associated with working class people voting Brexit, despite being farmers, landowners and businessmen.

how can they be middle class if they cuss and attend rugby league matches? is the kind of question that baffles eminent sociologists like J Harris and Maconie!

more like it
https://www.scotsman.com/news/scottish-labour-peer-calls-for-total-reform-of-house-of-lords-1-4886512/amp?__twitter_impression=true

Is jess philips relevant to this thread?

Your favourite Tory?

When I had this fucking awful section 47 put on my son last year (because of vindictive reports made by one arsehole neighbour blah blah), this middle class social worker made some dreadful comments in a report about my partner because she swears sometimes. Try living with MS and a teenage son with autism and me to boot and not swear occasionally. Anyways I told she was an inexperienced myopic middle class prick and I wouldn't let her enter my house again. Her defense was along the lines of: "I'm not posh me - I go to watch Castleford tigers every week."

Lyin' McVey comin at Truss for the best tory twit hashtags crown

Are the public aware of this ? And the many other things the EU has planned for its member states after 2020?#trust #WatchOut https://t.co/2oIzgOXaay

— Esther McVey (@EstherMcVey1) March 10, 2019

The McV doesn't just talk she's thick as fuc#

https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/mar/11/labour-left-jeremy-corbyn-policies

see also peter oborne’s (very good) review of bower’s (very bad) corbyn book

a whole bunch of the political/journalist class seem to be gagging for a class war, i say let's go

1-2-3-4, i demand a class war

idgi

As I just said on news, EU27 source confirms plan: “There will be a unilateral statement from UK side on the backstop that May thinks will help Cox change his mind”...

So PM appears to be negotiating the right to have a British interpretation without Brussels/Dublin objecting /1

— Faisal Islam (@faisalislam) March 11, 2019

was throwing out some old stuff earlier and I've found an old pile of mint condition New Statesmans and faded Private Eyes from the late 90's(98-99). I can confirm that muppet Steve Richards who is doing the May profile on R4 tonight was a bad writer back then as well, but couldn't find my reading glasses to delve much further into the tedium. The crux of one piece was that the US policy on saddam was too soft!

the state of corbyn's first shadow cabinet
https://i.imgur.com/PWQwttw.jpg

The Magnificent erm... one!

T Watson the Sopranos season 4 Vito of the crew!

Who is the man with the glasses in the middle that looks like Tom Watson’s dad?

charlie falconer?

Lidington basically saying Legally Binding as much as he can rn.

(xp) Falconer, who did fatso ---> thin sometime before his son did the same.

for goodness sake, if he could tie his stomach into a knot he could have at least done the same to his balls for the sake of humanity!

Thanks!

I clearly picked a good day to delete twitter but ia with Keri Starmer, there’s no way this is anything other than window dressing. We know it and Lidington knows it; the UK having the option of filing a grievance is weak.

I switched on the live stream but saw IDS shouting & promptly closed it again.

cold war steve profile on ITN news rn, sort of confirms to me he is bad and a complete vacuous twat.

PATRIOTS SUBSCRIBE TO @PEWDIEPIEhttps://t.co/lTU1n9Ay3m

— UKIP (@UKIP) March 11, 2019

now there's an endorsement i can embrace

what fresh nonsense is this

a legally binding agreement that may runs back to london to declare she can back out of any time she wants?

im joining the fuckin ra lads im sorry but

it doesn’t change the WA. It’s just sophistry.

Without wanting to go in about it too much, the backstop represents a significant concession on behalf of the EU. Lots of countries are not and have never been happy with it, so there’s no way that the UK can unilaterally withdraw after that, it’d piss off a lot more countries than just Ireland.

The Labour leader, Jeremy Corbyn, has responded to May’s statement, saying her “negotiations have failed”.

This evening’s agreement with the European Commission does not contain anything approaching the changes Theresa May promised Parliament, and whipped her MPs to vote for.

Since her Brexit deal was so overwhelmingly rejected, the prime minister has recklessly run down the clock, failed to effectively negotiate with the EU and refused to find common ground for a deal Parliament could support.

That’s why MPs must reject this deal tomorrow.

i realise that its terrifically naive to presume for even a second that whether or not the power mechanics are transparent to the disenfranchised onlookers is a matter of even the slightest import but i am joinin the ra

Juncker added that the UK’s withdrawal should be complete by the time of the European Parliament elections of 23-26 May. If it was not complete, the UK would be legally required to take part in the elections, he said.

what fresh nonsense is this

This is May getting this brexit stuff sorted obv

Lol this is so going to be a No Deal

ha anyone made a noel edmonds joke about brexit yet

It's complete nonsense of course but could conceivably give ERG a way of saving face and thus getting May over the line. Depends what DUP says I guess and they haven't immediately ruled anything out

I think it all comes down to the DUP; if they say they're up for it then it's hard for the ERG to resist.