US Politics March 2019: “I can’t say I’m happy. I can’t say I’m thrilled”

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I personally wouldn't characterize the situation exactly that way, I think "pretty face and a smile" is a little too glib, but absolutely 100% agree that pushback against Obama's cruelest and most draconian policies is warranted and frankly I'm very grateful to see someone willing to risk being a bit too strident the other way when the vast majority of mainstream liberal discourse bends over backwards to give him a pass.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Friday, 8 March 2019 15:52 (seven years ago)

couldn't find a chelsea manning thread, so

Former Army intelligence analyst Chelsea Manning has been jailed for refusing to testify to a grand jury investigating Wikileaks.

U.S. District Judge Claude Hilton ordered Manning to jail Friday after a brief hearing in which Manning confirmed she has no intention of testifying. She told the judge she "will accept whatever you bring upon me."

Manning has said she objects to the secrecy of the grand jury process, and that she already revealed everything she knows at her court martial.

https://www.ctvnews.ca/world/chelsea-manning-jailed-for-refusing-to-testify-on-wikileaks-1.4327902

Simon H., Friday, 8 March 2019 15:55 (seven years ago)

why you gotta bring us down when Paul Manafort's out here living his otherwise blameless life?

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Friday, 8 March 2019 15:57 (seven years ago)

mao at omar’s comments on obama

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for reference

Omar says the “hope and change” offered by Barack Obama was a mirage. Recalling the “caging of kids” at the U.S.-Mexico border and the “droning of countries around the world” on Obama’s watch, she argues that the Democratic president operated within the same fundamentally broken framework as his Republican successor.

“We can’t be only upset with Trump. … His policies are bad, but many of the people who came before him also had really bad policies. They just were more polished than he was,” Omar says. “And that’s not what we should be looking for anymore. We don’t want anybody to get away with murder because they are polished. We want to recognize the actual policies that are behind the pretty face and the smile.”

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 8 March 2019 15:57 (seven years ago)

My representative!

zama roma ding dong (Eric H.), Friday, 8 March 2019 15:59 (seven years ago)

ilhan omar i luv u

invited to an unexpected ninja presentation (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 8 March 2019 16:03 (seven years ago)

Ilhan Omar is Dr. Morbius and I claim my 5

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 8 March 2019 16:04 (seven years ago)

I really admire Omar's burn it all downess.

Yerac, Friday, 8 March 2019 16:05 (seven years ago)

time is a flat horseshoe

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 8 March 2019 16:08 (seven years ago)

wow AOC no longer the realest Congressperson

frogbs, Friday, 8 March 2019 16:10 (seven years ago)

The amount of oxygen this controversy is sucking up is kind of frustrating

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 8 March 2019 16:13 (seven years ago)

friendship ended with alexandria

now ILHAN is my best friend

invited to an unexpected ninja presentation (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 8 March 2019 16:14 (seven years ago)

I see that a typical response to Omar's criticism of Obama's "mirage" is that he was

wait for it...

NOT PERFECT

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 March 2019 16:14 (seven years ago)

not like all those other presidents the movement admires

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 8 March 2019 16:16 (seven years ago)

fuck presidents

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 March 2019 16:21 (seven years ago)

People are really weird about Obama. There was a funny moment in the Patriot Act ep about student debt where Minhaj says "Barack Obama" and the audience all cheer. Then Minhaj goes on to explain how Obama helped create the current student debt crisis by making the DoE the lender and subsidizing the debt servicing industry

rob, Friday, 8 March 2019 16:23 (seven years ago)

it's not weird to identify how a pol serves his corporate masters

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 March 2019 16:24 (seven years ago)

lol I meant his stans are weird, like they've never looked into a single thing he did in office

rob, Friday, 8 March 2019 16:27 (seven years ago)

but he was a ROCK STAR

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 March 2019 16:32 (seven years ago)

that's not really so surprising though given what he represented as the first black president, plus his whole hope + change rhetoric, plus consideration of how most Democrats feel about his predecessor and successor.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Friday, 8 March 2019 16:32 (seven years ago)

Obama is still probably the most naturally talented politicians I've ever seen, often he'll give a speech and I'll have to remind myself why I don't really like him

frogbs, Friday, 8 March 2019 16:34 (seven years ago)

it's weird and sorta hilarious how Dubya has been pretty much completely written out of right-wing orthodoxy in the past couple of years. meanwhile Reagan is still lionized. and it seems like the distinction is mostly just a matter of who Trump decided to bash.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Friday, 8 March 2019 16:35 (seven years ago)

Reagan was already a sort of fictional character while he was president

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 8 March 2019 16:35 (seven years ago)

exactly

Let's have sensible centrist armageddon (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 March 2019 16:36 (seven years ago)

he may as well have been computer generated

omar little, Friday, 8 March 2019 16:38 (seven years ago)

For the rhetoric course I teach, my students have to analyze five pieces of oratory to see how they observe Ciceronian canons of rhetoric, among which are Reagan's farewell speech from the Oval Office, Trump's inauguration, and Michelle Obama's DNC speech. I played them in class.

I felt distinct waves of discomfort during Trump's; no one wanted to discuss it much. Lots of students know Reagan by name but had never seen him; several praised how "soothing" he sounded, how hopeful (this is the Shining City on the Hill speech). After Michelle O spoke, I felt the love in the room, a sense that Something Had Been Lost.

Let's have sensible centrist armageddon (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 March 2019 16:39 (seven years ago)

xp
The psychology isn't hard to understand--and I agree with frogbs--it's just depressing how knee-jerk the adulation is especially since in my example the context of student debt had already been established.

rob, Friday, 8 March 2019 16:41 (seven years ago)

What the hell:

BREAKING: Pentagon 'Thinks' the Air Force Secretary Has Resigned https://t.co/4v70060eAt

— Katie Bo Williams (@KatieBoWill) March 8, 2019

UPDATE: Air Force officials confirm that Secretary Heather Wilson has submitted resignation and will be accepting a position as president of UT-El Paso. She informed her staff earlier today. According to one member of her staff, nobody knew about this until this morning.

— Sandra Erwin (@Sandra_I_Erwin) March 8, 2019

Bill Shine has quit, per White House. The fox executive didn’t last a year in the West Wing. More to come.

— Josh Dawsey (@jdawsey1) March 8, 2019

Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 March 2019 17:02 (seven years ago)

E Pluribus Unum being changed to LOL Nothing Matters

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 8 March 2019 17:03 (seven years ago)

Shucks! I'd just finished Jane Mayer's story about FOX and Bill Shine yesterday!

Let's have sensible centrist armageddon (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 March 2019 17:06 (seven years ago)

if everyone quits is Trump our king?

rob, Friday, 8 March 2019 17:07 (seven years ago)

whee, typical trump friday

27 Discounts ILXors Get Only If They Know (WmC), Friday, 8 March 2019 17:11 (seven years ago)

He's apparently being routed to a campaign role, but even so.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 March 2019 17:11 (seven years ago)

In baseball analysis there is the concept of "replacement-level players." I'm not sure where the baseline is when the doors revolve so quickly.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 March 2019 17:16 (seven years ago)

“I feel very badly for Paul Manafort,” Mr Trump said. “Both his lawyer, a highly respected man, and a very highly respected judge, the judge, said there was no collusion with Russia. It had nothing with collusion. There was no collusion.

He added: “It’s a collusion hoax, a collusion witch hoax. I don’t collude with Russia. The judge… made the statement that this had nothing to do collusion with Russia.”

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 8 March 2019 17:20 (seven years ago)

it's weird and sorta hilarious how Dubya has been pretty much completely written out of right-wing orthodoxy in the past couple of years. meanwhile Reagan is still lionized. and it seems like the distinction is mostly just a matter of who Trump decided to bash.

This is ahistorical. George W Bush had already been more or less disappeared from the Republican hero chart by 2012. He didn't even go to the GOP convention!

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 8 March 2019 17:22 (seven years ago)

collusion witch hoax

without looking it up I rate the probability at about 20% that there is actually a Guided By Voices album called this

Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, 8 March 2019 17:22 (seven years ago)

Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, I was going to post literally that!

Gary Ornmigh, Heywood's son (Old Lunch), Friday, 8 March 2019 17:26 (seven years ago)

Well, 'song' instead of 'album' so I guess I'm engaging in a witch hoax of my own.

Gary Ornmigh, Heywood's son (Old Lunch), Friday, 8 March 2019 17:27 (seven years ago)

Beat me to it, both of you.

The Vangelis of Dating (Tom D.), Friday, 8 March 2019 17:27 (seven years ago)

The Fall: Live at the Witch Hoaxes

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 March 2019 17:29 (seven years ago)

It just serves to underscore the extent to which his speech has devolved into an almost meaningless patchwork of words. I suppose it's only a matter of time before he starts regularly bringing his very own neologisms into the mix.

Gary Ornmigh, Heywood's son (Old Lunch), Friday, 8 March 2019 17:30 (seven years ago)

a very highly respected judge, the judge,

what a coincidence that this very highly respected judge would be named "the judge"

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Friday, 8 March 2019 17:34 (seven years ago)

"devolved"

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Friday, 8 March 2019 17:41 (seven years ago)

It's true! My gf noted that Trump sounded almost like a functional human in that Calamari clip from The Apprentice that was floating around last week. He's always been a moron, and especially so since at least the time when he started entertaining political notions, but I think it's safe to say at this point that he's firmly in the 'doddering' phase of his rapid mental decline.

Gary Ornmigh, Heywood's son (Old Lunch), Friday, 8 March 2019 17:56 (seven years ago)

I see that, but must insist on the reams of Sopan Deb transcripts during the 2016 race which gave form to the advanced written Trump impression. The decline over the last three years isn't quite as meteoric as all that.

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Friday, 8 March 2019 18:01 (seven years ago)

No, I agree, it's isn't meteoric but it is progressive, like the degradation of elastin which with each passing day brings his wizened sac into measurably nearer proximity to the toilet water's surface.

Gary Ornmigh, Heywood's son (Old Lunch), Friday, 8 March 2019 18:15 (seven years ago)

nobody striking imagery that

moose; squirrel (silby), Friday, 8 March 2019 18:16 (seven years ago)

plop plop fizz fizz oh what a relief it is

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 8 March 2019 18:16 (seven years ago)


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