2020 Democratic presidential primary

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ugh another ugly piece of these conversations are all the ppl on the right marshaling their jews and the ppl on the left theirs to demonstrate that their opinion is kosher

Mordy, Thursday, 7 March 2019 20:21 (seven years ago)

saw a picture of a bunch of netueri karta taking a photo op in tlaib's office urgh

Mordy, Thursday, 7 March 2019 20:22 (seven years ago)

So, I’m working with a client today to conduct a focus group of black women who are likely to vote in the South Carolina Democratic Presidential primary. I have the client’s permission to tweet out anecdotes and observations, but they’d prefer not to be named.

— Danny Barefoot (@dannybarefoot) March 5, 2019

Let's have sensible centrist armageddon (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 March 2019 20:34 (seven years ago)

worth a glance

Let's have sensible centrist armageddon (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 March 2019 20:34 (seven years ago)

nothing terribly surprising there to me

k3vin k., Thursday, 7 March 2019 20:40 (seven years ago)

nothing too surprising in there I don't think. I was wondering what their take on Bernie would be, but

I would rather starve than work for him :)

— Danny Barefoot (@dannybarefoot) March 5, 2019

bhad bundy (Simon H.), Thursday, 7 March 2019 20:40 (seven years ago)

I actually think Kamala’s best path to shoring up support among black women in SC (and beyond) may be for white liberals to keep attacking her for stuff they assume black people find salient.

— Danny Barefoot (@dannybarefoot) March 5, 2019

grawlix (unperson), Thursday, 7 March 2019 20:55 (seven years ago)

there were at least two things on Biden in the news today (that desgregation talk from the 70's, and another where he talked about superpredators being 'beyond the pale'...ok yeah maybe that's stretching it and I doubt he was really trying to speak in coded messages there) and I really think he's done. People are not that forgiving now. I seriously doubt he's a racist and if he had attitudes about bussing back then that were maybe fairly prevalent.... people aren't willing, now, to extend a lot of forgiveness over that shit. But who knows. In some cases it seems like white liberals who are more angry about it than the Af Am community.

akm, Thursday, 7 March 2019 21:35 (seven years ago)

I don't think anyone ITT has argued that arguments about her prosecutorial record would ever resonate with Dem voters. (I think once or twice I've even argued the opposite.) xp

bhad bundy (Simon H.), Thursday, 7 March 2019 21:36 (seven years ago)

it resonates with fringe super far-left people I know who are antifa and think everyone who isn't with them is a cop

akm, Thursday, 7 March 2019 21:39 (seven years ago)

white liberals to keep attacking her for stuff they assume black people find salient

like the Snoop Dogg scandal?

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 7 March 2019 21:40 (seven years ago)

yeah but they're like 1% of primary voters at best xp

bhad bundy (Simon H.), Thursday, 7 March 2019 21:40 (seven years ago)

I posted the tweets to show the timidity and brainlessness of pollsters btw

Let's have sensible centrist armageddon (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 7 March 2019 21:53 (seven years ago)

sherrod brown out (or rather, not in)

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/sherrod-brown-wont-run-for-president

i like him, but this is probably a good idea, even if it was motivated by Brown's sense that he couldn't win; he can now protect his senate seat.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Thursday, 7 March 2019 22:29 (seven years ago)

Danny Barefoot found a fan

And two follows ❤️

— JEN KIRKMAN (@JenKirkman) March 5, 2019

Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Friday, 8 March 2019 00:17 (seven years ago)

What Barefoot says he does is so wildly unethical that I actually kinda hope it's all made up, rather than merely strongly suspecting that it is.

Three Word Username, Friday, 8 March 2019 02:08 (seven years ago)

As Sanders begins to crisscross the country for his 2020 presidential bid, proving he can consolidate the Democratic base will be his biggest test.

“We were criticized for being too white; that was a correct criticism,” Sanders said on the Breakfast Club radio show in March. “We were criticized for being too male; that was a correct criticism. That’s going to change.”

It’s starting to. An analysis of recent polls from November of 2018 to March 2019 shows Sanders is more popular with people of color than white people, and women like Sanders as much as men do, if not more. He leads every other possible 2020 contender with Latino voters and lags behind only Joe Biden — who hasn’t announced a bid yet — with African-American voters. Sanders’ polling numbers with black voters are double that of Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA), according to a March Morning Consult poll.
https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/2019/3/7/18216899/bernie-sanders-bro-base-polling-2020-president

bhad bundy (Simon H.), Friday, 8 March 2019 02:34 (seven years ago)

so on the campaign trail he's going to be a non-white woman of color?

Let's have sensible centrist armageddon (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 8 March 2019 02:39 (seven years ago)

if does that he's got my vote

Karl Malone, Friday, 8 March 2019 02:42 (seven years ago)

Hey, it worked for Cuomo

Anyway, I think his insistence on collective rather than individual language, especially pronounced this time, is an interesting tactic

bhad bundy (Simon H.), Friday, 8 March 2019 11:10 (seven years ago)

thumbs up

NEWS: Elizabeth Warren is proposing a new regulatory plan that would break up big tech companies like Amazon, Google and Facebook and roll back acquisitions like Facebook's deals for WhatsApp and Instagram. https://t.co/xZboYv9Cby

— Patrick Healy (@patrickhealynyt) March 8, 2019

bhad bundy (Simon H.), Friday, 8 March 2019 14:03 (seven years ago)

Huh.

Yeah, I am stoked for a President Sanders or a President Warren.

Trϵϵship, Friday, 8 March 2019 14:04 (seven years ago)

legislation that would prohibit platforms from both offering a marketplace for commerce and participating in that marketplace.

Does this mean that e.g. Amazon couldn't sell AmazonBasics products on its marketplace website?

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Friday, 8 March 2019 14:21 (seven years ago)

i imagine they'd have to split their product-making arm off as a separate business. like the Bell breakup, which divorced western electric (the entity that made all the phones and wires) from AT&T. or the hollywood studios having to sever from their respective theater chains. different situations in several ways, but it wouldn't put us in uncharted waters i don't think.

|Restore| |Restart| |Quit| (Doctor Casino), Friday, 8 March 2019 14:25 (seven years ago)

Tbc, it sounded reasonable; just checking that I was understanding it right.

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Friday, 8 March 2019 14:26 (seven years ago)

shes trying to place a volcker rule on them too.

Yerac, Friday, 8 March 2019 14:30 (seven years ago)

even if Warren doesn't win the nomination, I hope her relentless injection of good ideas into the Dem mainstream will have a lifting-all-boats effect. hell, you could probably argue it's hurting her actual individual campaign to have so many relatively concrete proposals on the record, such is the deeply depressing nature of 21st century politics.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Friday, 8 March 2019 15:11 (seven years ago)

how i'd rank candidates' chances of winning the primary currently

Biden > Sanders > Harris > Booker > Warren > miscellaneous cipher

⅋ (crüt), Friday, 8 March 2019 15:19 (seven years ago)

I like Liz Warren and I will probably vote for her in the primary

frogbs, Friday, 8 March 2019 15:21 (seven years ago)

xp god I hope you're wrong about Biden

Emperor Tonetta Ketchup (sleeve), Friday, 8 March 2019 15:23 (seven years ago)

Biden is a nonstarter

he will be Anita Hill'd 24/7

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 8 March 2019 15:26 (seven years ago)

he'll be a Hillary type candidate who will soak up primary votes and leave the general in utter precariousness

⅋ (crüt), Friday, 8 March 2019 15:28 (seven years ago)

Biden supporters want everyone to stop bitching all the time so they can live out the rest of their life in peace.

Yerac, Friday, 8 March 2019 15:30 (seven years ago)

I hope that if Biden gets into the race, Obama doesn't immediately put his thumb on the scale for him. I kind of doubt he would do that, especially not early on, but I think it could have a big impact if he did.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Friday, 8 March 2019 15:33 (seven years ago)

granted this polling data is extremely limited, but it looks like if Biden's in a pretty good spot, as long as he doesn't follow the trajectory of Jeb!: https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/latest_polls/democratic_nomination_polls/

the establishment seems to be backing Booker & Harris (and Klololbuchar): https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-endorsements/democratic-primary/

obv it's still very early in the game & i desperately want someone smarter than me to tell me i'm wrong and that it's gonna be liz & bernie all the way

⅋ (crüt), Friday, 8 March 2019 15:36 (seven years ago)

^ i mean that earnestly

⅋ (crüt), Friday, 8 March 2019 15:37 (seven years ago)

Obama didn't forbid Biden from running in 2016, but he noticeably didn't encourage it either. I suspect he has even less reason to do for 2020. Obama will probably be entirely hands off this primary until the convention.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 March 2019 15:38 (seven years ago)

i thought obama was a booker guy

⅋ (crüt), Friday, 8 March 2019 15:39 (seven years ago)

If Biden doesn't run, I could see him backing Harris full tilt.

Simon H., Friday, 8 March 2019 15:39 (seven years ago)

But yeah, more likely he stays out as an active participant and sticks to Netflix or whatever

Simon H., Friday, 8 March 2019 15:40 (seven years ago)

Yeah, he's got a history with Harris. She was in contention for AG post-Holder until she withdrew herself by intimating she was gonna run for Boxer's seat.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 March 2019 15:41 (seven years ago)

I'm not crazy about Harris but I have to say if I was playing Let's Make a Deal and I could either have Harris in the bank or take my chances with what's behind door number 3, and standing on the other side might be Warren, Sanders, or Biden, I would possibly just take the bird in the hand in that scenario, that's how much Biden sucks.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Friday, 8 March 2019 15:56 (seven years ago)

lol I like Warren but she just lost California

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 8 March 2019 15:56 (seven years ago)

She was gonna lose California in the primary anyway because Harris. She'd do ok in the general were she the nominee.

Johnny Fever, Friday, 8 March 2019 16:03 (seven years ago)

that’s a low bar lol

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Friday, 8 March 2019 16:09 (seven years ago)

This is the kind of proposal that I’d cheer from her as a Senator. But as a presidential candidate I fear she’s getting over her skis a bit.

o. nate, Friday, 8 March 2019 16:21 (seven years ago)

That proposal is kind of a duh moment that no one had tried to do it before. But it makes perfect sense now. We should be treating these huge monolithic tech companies more like investment banks especially since they have accumulated so much information on individuals. I would want me info treated like material non-public information where it shouldn't be distributed or viewed between entities without my consent. Amazon shouldn't be the platform and the product and the marketmaker and the bank all under one roof.

Yerac, Friday, 8 March 2019 16:27 (seven years ago)

She isn’t over her skis. She is probably has the most comrpehensive understanding of regulatory policy of anyone in the Senate.

Trϵϵship, Friday, 8 March 2019 16:33 (seven years ago)

xp

Trϵϵship, Friday, 8 March 2019 16:34 (seven years ago)

I agree, if Congress is going to craft legislation on this issue it’s going to be a very complex process and I’d like to see her there working on it. I don’t see this as a winner in a presidential contest though.

o. nate, Friday, 8 March 2019 16:39 (seven years ago)


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