"oh you don't get me I'm the end of the union": lol brexit is how we're all gonna die

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The government has made it harder to get student visas, has stuck with strongly negative messaging around student immigration and has cut off routes to limited-time post-study employment - all of which has seen numbers from most Asian countries (particularly India and Nepal) tank. However, the potential shortfall has mostly been met by an increased reliance on students from China over the last few years. The thing that would shake the sector more than anything would be a downturn in the Chinese economy, tbh.

There is a suspicion that they’ll loosen the requirements, or at least take a very different tone, to try to get some of the students they’re currently missing out on back, in the event of large numbers of EU learners deciding to go elsewhere, though it remains to be seen how effective that would be.

ShariVari, Sunday, 3 March 2019 15:43 (seven years ago)

Just by comments I've read about the French tuition fees and their benefits system on here. I get the feeling if Macron tried to impose UK level austerity on them, there would be some serious bastilles getting stormed. Forget about those high viz numpts - this would be the real thing. Well perhaps.

calzino, Sunday, 3 March 2019 16:00 (seven years ago)

must be nice not living in a neolib hellscape

See me in mi heels an' tinge (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 3 March 2019 16:07 (seven years ago)

still being social conditioned into thinking not killing disabled ppl and ultra low tuition fees are hard-left utopian policies in the UK.

calzino, Sunday, 3 March 2019 16:28 (seven years ago)

Yes, it really costs about 300 € a year to go to university here, whether you're local or a foreigner! I imagine our universities would be very attractive globally if our courses weren't all in French.

My previous employer, in the USA, recently took out insurance to guard itself against a downturn in Chinese enrollment, who pay a little more than the max tuition chargeable to USA students. I suppose that could be an option for UK unis.

L'assie (Euler), Sunday, 3 March 2019 16:36 (seven years ago)

US engineering giant Bechtel is suing the £56bn railway company over claims its procurement process for the development of the station, which will link with Crossrail when it opens, was unfair.

more expensive Grayling incompetence ahoy!

calzino, Sunday, 3 March 2019 19:23 (seven years ago)

xunts the most dangerous man in britain

PaulDananVEVO (||||||||), Sunday, 3 March 2019 19:29 (seven years ago)

Tom Watson writing a letter(!) to the boss of google asking him to remove Tommy Robinson's youtube page. Not sure if this is something he is doing on his own time, or in his role as important man

anvil, Sunday, 3 March 2019 20:12 (seven years ago)

Forgot to googleproof Watsons name

anvil, Sunday, 3 March 2019 20:13 (seven years ago)

pumping iron is something he does often on his own time these days apparently. Big tech are shitting themselves!

calzino, Sunday, 3 March 2019 20:33 (seven years ago)

Getting a bit above himself these days is he not?

The Vangelis of Dating (Tom D.), Sunday, 3 March 2019 20:42 (seven years ago)

Further to what I said upthread about Labour being shit at dealing with racism:

In the Labour Party, accusing Pakistani men (like me) of being culturally inclined to rape white girls doesn't merit having the whip withdrawn.

From Sarah Champion (in case you all forgot). pic.twitter.com/5vPSlU5HS0

— Umaar Kazmi 🤝🌹🎗 (@UmaarKazmi) March 3, 2019

gyac, Sunday, 3 March 2019 20:49 (seven years ago)

same kind of nominative determinism at work there as with James Cleverly.

calzino, Sunday, 3 March 2019 20:53 (seven years ago)

Oh, also:

Understand that the incident with Jeremy Corbyn today is a little more serious than originally reported. No egg was thrown but a man is alleged to have hit Corbyn on the head, while holding an egg in his fist.

— Jessica Elgot (@jessicaelgot) March 3, 2019

gyac, Sunday, 3 March 2019 20:56 (seven years ago)

Corbyn apprently carried on with his duties. The attack occured at Finsbury Park mosque. The Guardian is reporting this was done by a "pro-Brexit campaigner" and I am expecting the worst as we learn more.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 3 March 2019 21:47 (seven years ago)

meanwhile, rachel riley has called him a nazi

PaulDananVEVO (||||||||), Sunday, 3 March 2019 21:51 (seven years ago)

Who, Corbyn or the egger?

Mark G, Sunday, 3 March 2019 21:53 (seven years ago)

Corbyn.

suzy, Sunday, 3 March 2019 21:56 (seven years ago)

Richard Whiteley would have approved.

calzino, Sunday, 3 March 2019 22:14 (seven years ago)

anticapitalism is antisemitic, suggest siobhan mcdonagh on today before trying to row back ineloquently, perhaps realising what she’s said herself is potentially antisemitic.

PaulDananVEVO (||||||||), Monday, 4 March 2019 09:56 (seven years ago)

I mean, Rachel Riley has brought up a tweet of Owen Jones's where he defends egging Nick Griffin, is the extent of 'Corbyn is a Nazi'.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 4 March 2019 11:40 (seven years ago)

She clearly did it to draw a parallel between the two.

ShariVari, Monday, 4 March 2019 11:41 (seven years ago)

It only counts if she sang it.

Mark G, Monday, 4 March 2019 11:45 (seven years ago)

struggling towns funding seems deliberately engineered to be KB’d by wavering labour MPs.

wonder if may smells opportunity in the combination of TIG plus the media’s loud insistence that labour have now “pivoted behind a 2nd ref” (ie are brexit wreckers) and is engineering the failure of her own deal so she can go to the country seeking better parliamentary arithmetic to enact brexit. seems risky to me

PaulDananVEVO (||||||||), Monday, 4 March 2019 11:55 (seven years ago)

I suppose this 1.6B will be hailed as "the Brexit dividend" which is not a thing.

nashwan, Monday, 4 March 2019 11:59 (seven years ago)

xxxp do you think this is a legitimate comparison? How many groups would be at risk from a BNP government (or even just their ideas being mainstreamed - lol, imagine living in a world where that happened!)? How does it serve the cause of anti racism to make a ludicrous comparison that is both red meat for conspiracist types and also undermines a socialist being assaulted by a member of the far right? Or in case this is too rambly, is the enemy of my enemy a good stance to take when the first enemy is Nick fucking Griffin?

gyac, Monday, 4 March 2019 12:01 (seven years ago)

she's lost her mind and clicking likes on some alt-right "admirers" as well. I mean ppl with a history of serious pro-nazi views.

calzino, Monday, 4 March 2019 12:04 (seven years ago)

twitter is a fucking cesspit

imago, Monday, 4 March 2019 12:04 (seven years ago)

a short campaign confined narrowly to brexit is extremely risky for labour too - they need to be very clever about broadening to austerity etc. hope they’ve recosted their manifesto too, in light of the accounting changes for student debt

PaulDananVEVO (||||||||), Monday, 4 March 2019 12:09 (seven years ago)

xxp yes and I’m not here for her retweeting people who spend much of their time online attacking young, socialist women - many of whom are Jewish or BAME. And it’s all very well when you disavow the support of Katie Hopkins, but when you give cover for fascists what do you expect?!

gyac, Monday, 4 March 2019 12:15 (seven years ago)

Which isn’t saying she necessarily understood what she was doing, but Jesus. Think before you tweet.

gyac, Monday, 4 March 2019 12:17 (seven years ago)

engage brain before use mouth

PaulDananVEVO (||||||||), Monday, 4 March 2019 12:18 (seven years ago)

This was inevitable as soon as the CPS was rumoured to have started to look into Bloody Sunday again:

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/minister-seeks-10-year-limit-on-prosecutions-of-soldiers-sctcrrhgj

ShariVari, Monday, 4 March 2019 12:44 (seven years ago)

Isn’t there another case that’s going on that this would apply to?

gyac, Monday, 4 March 2019 12:46 (seven years ago)

I am not defending Rachel Riley in any way shape or form beyond pointing out that "RR called Corbyn a Nazi" is a silly thing to say.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 4 March 2019 14:23 (seven years ago)

What would be an alternative interpretation of her comment?

ShariVari, Monday, 4 March 2019 14:32 (seven years ago)

What was the point being made if not that?

gyac, Monday, 4 March 2019 14:32 (seven years ago)

That Owen Jones was previous in favour of eggs being thrown at people - it's a stupid twitter gotcha.

And, also, even if she was saying "these things have equivalent moral weight", which I don't believe for a second she is, that's still not "Corbyn is a Nazi"

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 4 March 2019 14:34 (seven years ago)

In conclusion, burn down Twitter.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 4 March 2019 14:35 (seven years ago)

*previously

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 4 March 2019 14:39 (seven years ago)

Yeah, don’t get why OJ would be pretending a person with these views getting egged is bad.

Following the Admiral Duncan pub bombing by former BNP member David Copeland, Griffin stated "The TV footage of dozens of 'gay' demonstrators flaunting their perversion in front of the world's journalists showed just why so many ordinary people find these creatures so repulsive."[109] The BNP states that, privately, homosexuality should be tolerated, but that it "should not be promoted or encouraged".[110] It opposed the introduction of civil partnerships and wishes to ban what it perceives as the promotion of homosexuality in schools and the media.

Also don’t get why exactly an old OJ tweet is relevant to Corbyn being assaulted? Unless you want to argue that assaults on the leader of the opposition, who is in favour of democracy and who notably does not advocate for ethnic cleansing, are to be considered the same as a fascist who’d ethnically cleanse the country of BAME people and other “undesirables”.

gyac, Monday, 4 March 2019 14:51 (seven years ago)

we can celebrate a new twitter golden age when adversaries C Williamson + Rachel Riley both simultaneously retweet the same holocaust denier/neo-nazi cos they agreed with them. or maybe not.

calzino, Monday, 4 March 2019 15:14 (seven years ago)

I am (no snark!) clearly not communicating very well today. I do know who Nick Griffin is, of course - he is indeed a Nazi.

But I don't think there's anything in Rachel Riley's tweet to suggest she's equating the two - she's just making a dumb connection between "Owen Jones doesn't like someone getting egged" and "Owen Jones didn't mind someone else getting egged".

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 4 March 2019 15:23 (seven years ago)

quote tweeting “if you don’t want to get egged don’t be a nazi” with a smug “good advice” is clearly drawing equivalencies and suggesting she’s highlighting (non-existent) hipocrisy is just retconning.

PaulDananVEVO (||||||||), Monday, 4 March 2019 15:27 (seven years ago)

anyway I thought nazis getting punched in the head was supposed to be followed by days of liberal handwringing ?!

PaulDananVEVO (||||||||), Monday, 4 March 2019 17:23 (seven years ago)

Hot centrist take 2.

Whoever threw an egg at an unnamed MP for Islington North, DM me & I’ll buy you a full English. 💋

— frances Barber#FBPE (@francesbarber13) March 3, 2019

Ned Trifle X, Monday, 4 March 2019 17:27 (seven years ago)

I kind of feel sorry for Barber as it seems pretty clear she is unwell or *makes drinking motion with hand* ‘unwell’.

ShariVari, Monday, 4 March 2019 17:35 (seven years ago)

did you just call frances barber a nazi

god knows i want to fp (darraghmac), Monday, 4 March 2019 17:36 (seven years ago)

Imagine your opinions being so bad that you’re on the wrong side of the debate as Piers Morgan.

I’ve seen some disturbed types trying to gotcha Ash Sarkar after she tweeted about Richard Spencer being punches as well. Makes u think.

gyac, Monday, 4 March 2019 17:48 (seven years ago)

*wrong side of debate and Piers Morgan isn’t

This clearly fucked my brain when I tried writing it

gyac, Monday, 4 March 2019 17:49 (seven years ago)


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