"oh you don't get me I'm the end of the union": lol brexit is how we're all gonna die

this is fine

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/contract-shipping-nhs-supplies-given-14057910?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar

Very much in agreement with calzino today.

^^ it's bonkers and depressing they haven't kicked him out yet.

it doesn't seem as apparent to many MPs as it does Labour party members how toxic Williamson is. Even Burgon who seems thoroughly decent was posing in a pic with him a couple of weeks back.

fellow "Corbynite" matthew collings on the Williamson vid: "Facts, opinion, pretty well balanced."

probably best sticking to art in future.

I come across him in FB threads and his stubbornness is irritating. How difficult is it to not troll left-wing Jewish people who should be allies?

I think a large part of the issue with tackling CW is that he’s positioned himself as an MP that cares about the membership (yes i have nicked this theory & cant remember from where), and that’s not to be understated in a party where MPs & the members seem to be constantly at war.

I think it’s debatable as to whether Labour has ever been good at tackling its racists, though.

CW is giving succour to the cranks, obfuscators, idiots and deniers and has done so consistently for months

remove the whip imo

it doesn't seem as apparent to many MPs as it does Labour party members how toxic Williamson is.

yes - agree w gyac - CW’s résonance is a function of how openly hostile most of the PLP have been towards the membership - if they’d get one clue he would be a much more marginal figure. yet another argument for the deselection express

I see the ERG are no longer calling for the backstop to be removed.

"The membership" isn't a monolith though, although I think it's true that some MPs have indifference or contempt towards them they also get stuck in a destructive feedback loop where the reverse is also true. Willianson is seen as being on the right side so it's easier for him to do that. But I don't believe for one second that he's uniformly popular among even his constituency party let alone the wider membership.

Williamson's constituency is so marginal that he's pretty likely to be voted out at the next election, which is another good reason for replacing him with someone less toxic.

Saw that too. Can't imagine that meaning they'll back May's deal all of a sudden tho. xp

ERG outwitted by Baldrick.

No, the membership isn’t a monolith but one of the things that the PLP get wrong is painting them as such. The trots, racists and other cranks are a fraction of, but by no means representative of, the membership. For a party like Labour where they can’t outspend the Tories but they have a far better ground game because of said members & volunteers, it’s ridiculous to act as the PLP often does.

Or, longer, this thread:

Bullying is clearly the new anti-Labour buzzword. Expecting to see this being the main narrative pushed over the next few weeks.

— ㄒ丨爪ㄖㄒ卄ㄚ (@XRedTimX) February 24, 2019

No Deal appears to be extremely unlikely now, so a) that explains why the ERG is suddenly being more ameliorative, but more importantly b) what do I now do with the 50 kilos of rice and the gun that I bought?

If anyone wants to buy a bunker in the woods I'm open to offers as well.

what do you think is most likely outcome now ?

would no deal still be the legal default after the three votes ? how will conservatives whip the extension vote ?

The Saj in his element:

Among some confusion Sajid Javid confirms ministers will back the Costa amendment on guaranteeing EU citizens rights under no-deal pic.twitter.com/C2UnOnxf5J

— Nicholas Mairs (@Nicholas_Mairs) February 27, 2019

I'm guessing that it'll be:

- May's deal: rejected by a smaller margin than before
- No Deal vote: same result as last time, MPs vote to reject leaving without a deal
- Extension vote: passes because by this point literally every scenario other than No Deal requires an extension of some form or other

It might be a narrow pass but it'd still go through.

banter heuristic requires all votes to fail

Nah banter heuristic is they finally agree to extend and Malta vetoes it.

in other news, uk gun owners continue to be very good and normal

https://i.imgur.com/4aOuiwq.png?1

"just a bit o' fun" eh? you sure that's real?

Think Matt DC is otm with his prediction about how things will unfold.

buying 5kg sacks of rice is good practice imo because even brexit aside we are still living in uncertain times, and i've got a nice tilda rice tin with rice scoop for ease of access. Fuck shotguns though!

The extension isn't an end-state, though.

Lot of *cough* momentum building on the Williamson Out calls

Have they said if the No Deal vote will be amendable? Because that's where all the action will be - amendments saying precisely how to avoid ND

Possibly why he has just uncharacteristically apologised. Xp

Don't think that'll be enough, fingers crossed

The No Deal vote (the March 13th one) is "do you want to go full steam No Deal, Y/N?" iirc

wth is #GTTO ?

Get the Tories out?

makes sense

RIP alberto costa

buying 5kg sacks of rice is good practice imo because even brexit aside we are still living in uncertain times

my wife accidentally ordered a load of coffee capsules this week and we have been joking that it's our Brexit survival stash. Yeah I know, "hilarious", but we have to get the laughs where we can these days!

Brexit? What else?

Don't think that'll be enough, fingers crossed

How long did it take for Corbyn to do anything about Livingstone?

Well yeah but this feels more public/immediate than Livingstone in some ways and maybe outside of Corbyn's direct control

GTTO today, among other things, means let's stop being beastly to Chris Williamson now that he's written a shit apology.

BREAKING: Chris Williamson has been issued with a “notice of investigation for a pattern of behaviour” by Labour, spokesman for Jeremy Corbyn says. He will not be suspended during the investigation.

— Kevin Schofield (@PolhomeEditor) February 27, 2019

Get That Tosspot Out?

They should be able to wrap up that investigation faster than Javid will say "yeah no I meant what the PM said"

CW is not a hillock anybody should choose to die on

Hillock or pillock?

The similarity was entirely intentional

I guess I'm largely in agreement with Jeremy Gilbert tho re the need for Labour to get its fractures sheered off and to restructure itself, but Corbyn's inner circle are still almost certainly fully committed to a continuity Labour except without the anti-socialists, and are gonna continue to pick stupid fights accordingly

“Senior ministers believe that the European Union will insist on a Brexit delay of up to two years if Britain fails to agree a deal in the next few weeks”, Joe Murphy and Nicholas Cecil report in the Evening Standard. “Several sources have told the Standard they do not think the sort of “short, limited extension” of article 50 suggested by Theresa May in the Commons yesterday would be permitted by Brussels.”

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EU otm, really

Well yeah but this feels more public/immediate than Livingstone in some ways and maybe outside of Corbyn's direct control

Also The Independents Group was last week, which might focus the mind.