2020 Democratic presidential primary

Pierce:

He's had almost four years now to decide if he wants the job. He's had almost four years now to decide if he wants to go through what you have to go through to get the job. With all due respect to his family situation, that's more than enough time to make up your mind on these questions. In 2016, with his son's death still fresh in his mind, he passed. (Understandable, although the question intrigues me as to whether, absent Beau's death, Biden would have told the Obama people to stuff it and run against Hillary Rodham Clinton—and, as it turned out, Bernie Sanders—anyway. Now that would've been a campaign.) There is no reason for him still to be puzzling this whole thing out while freezing the top of every poll of actual Democratic contenders.

That said, there's a lot in Joe Biden's political history to make you wonder whether or not he's really the juggernaut his name-recognition indicates he might be. He's run for president twice and flamed out badly both times. In the days of the #MeToo movement, and with a strong group of accomplished women already in the field, does the party really want the guy who took a dive on Anita Hill? (Or, more precisely, on Angela Wright.) And does Joe Biden want to get up on a stage and debate his shilling for the credit card industry behind an indefensible bankruptcy bill in 2005, a measure that occasioned the first move into national politics from an obscure Harvard Law professor named Elizabeth Warren?

I think it’s silly to gauge Biden’s appeal based on pre-VP runs. He got 8 years of great publicity as Obama’s buddy. He’s a much stronger candidate now than he’s been in past primaries.

yes this is true but -- and I can't stress this enough -- fuck joe biden

biden’s gonna burn through any lasting goodwill from the obama years and/or the onion’s caricature of him in about three days once people start looking properly at both his political history and his creepiness towards women

last two posts otm

From a game-theory perspective it probably makes sense for him to declare as late as possible. He doesn’t need to build name recognition and I assume fundraising won’t be a problem. So getting in early just gives more time for people to try to chip away at his support with the kind of issues mentioned .

Biden needs to go ASAP

via Raymond C, some useful tactics

https://medium.com/@ScottSoriano/welcome-to-the-stupid-season-some-basic-tools-for-mastering-the-2020-election-season-becoming-a-d634063cd0f8

There have been a lot of early-polling poll front runners this many months ahead of the election who never came within a whiff of the nomination. A presidential campaign is long and brutal, and no amount of great publicity as Obama’s buddy will save Biden from his own laxity and poor judgment. I predict that if he runs he'll be toast by the end of Super Tuesday, if not beforehand.

^^^^

potential biden candidacy a huge hilarious joke until further notice

I predict three racial gaffes in announcement speech.

and he trips on a flip-flop on his way back to his Trans Am.

I think it’s silly to gauge Biden’s appeal based on pre-VP runs. He got 8 years of great publicity as Obama’s buddy. He’s a much stronger candidate now than he’s been in past primaries.

― o. nate, Tuesday, February 26, 2019 1:53 PM (thirty-eight minutes ago)

From a game-theory perspective it probably makes sense for him to declare as late as possible. He doesn’t need to build name recognition and I assume fundraising won’t be a problem. So getting in early just gives more time for people to try to chip away at his support with the kind of issues mentioned .

― o. nate, Tuesday, February 26, 2019 2:06 PM (twenty-five minutes ago)

both otm. his popularity and viability are probably underplayed by most of the people/pundits in our orbit. I still think, given the wealth of other options, he should stay out

I also think the number of people who only like Biden because of the Onion is maybe not as big as some think

thinking about the howard dean scream which feels like prehistory now

I would think Warren in particular is looking forward Biden running so she can eviscerate him on the bankruptcy bill. Gonna be ugly, folks.

she shouldnt run if shes going to hurt his chances iirc actually

^ uncharacteristically clumsy

vmic tbh

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/elections-2020/2019/02/27/sources-beto-orourke-wontchallenge-john-cornyn-senate-paving-way-presidential-bid

Running for VP woooo

Its so crowded

lame

i really hate he wasn't able to unseat Cruz but i'm reeeeeeal tired of this dude now

From a purely selfish POV, he’s more likely to win the presidency than unseat Cornyn Imo and he’s extremely unlikely to win the presidency. Cruz is another matter but Cruz is not on the ballot in 2020. But this sucks.

Beto's out of office. He's ambitious. There seem to be people with influence and money who are pushing him to run for president, who'll pay for his campaign expenses for a while. He'll automatically gain name recognition and the sort of stature that comes with national media attention. He has nothing to lose even if he loses. Makes sense that he'd give it a shot and hope that luck breaks his way.

i really hate he wasn't able to unseat Cruz but i'm reeeeeeal tired of this dude now

― A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Thursday, February 28, 2019 12:06 AM (sixteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

his sell-by date came up awful quick, didn't it?

I still think that ultimately he'd be Beto better off getting a job w/the DNC, and maybe eventually challenging Abbott in '22.

his sell-by date came up awful quick, didn't it?

Anyone looks good put up against a Lovecraftian fish-man.

In a weird sort of way, it kinda personally gives me hope.

https://i.imgur.com/hXHpAnS.jpg

his sell-by date came up awful quick, didn't it?

for me it as finding out about all his needlessly terrible votes as a rep.

was*

but all that "i don't really 'do' labels" bullshit wrt to "progressivism" or "dem socialism" or whatever did't help matters

I like him, hope he has a future in politics

he seems like a nice guy who had a very mediocre stint in congress, who lost against Ted Cruz, who went on some peyote instagram/blogging vacation and now wants to run for president. Everything checks out.

lol, I still think he has potential

potential is the greatest achievement of the mediocre white man.

He has excellent potential as a podcast host. Music and politics, now on Pod Save America

He looks like one of the YouTubers my kid watches.

Or all of them.

an old ilxor noize dude was in that nyt article as a prior roommate. I would vote for the noize dude over beto.

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Curse o' the Irish

I polled myself and I’m currently leaning buttigieg

They mean to say Harris tells people what they want to hear and then trips as she walks two steps back. (I should bill for this.) https://t.co/R8g0iTs6c1

— Richard M. Nixon (@dick_nixon) March 3, 2019

Former Colorado Gov. John Hickenlooper in

Eric Holder out

ladies and gentlemen, the future president of the united states of america, mr john hickenlooper

Hickenlooper cites experience in restaurant industry and as mayor in working across divisions.

"I would go to Mitch McConnell, to his office, and I would sit down with him and say, 'Now, what is the issue again?' and we would talk...Sounds silly right? But this works." https://t.co/gRLW9lrMdO

— Evan McMurry (@evanmcmurry) March 4, 2019

poor mitch, sitting alone in his office. and he would so dearly love to compromise on something, if only someone would come to call.

he just wants to get things done, our Mitch

jesus what a fucking loser

More like hickenloser amirite

Otoh our Nation's onomasticians cry out for Buttigieg/Hickenlooper '20, Make America Giggle Again