"oh you don't get me I'm the end of the union": lol brexit is how we're all gonna die

I think the interesting discussion is actually linked to the second tweet in ally’s thread. I am bad at online

what happens if all three of these votes fail

away goals then penalties

jelly wrestling on the floor of the commons

xxxp That's this one:

There's only one sensible structure for a referendum. Two questions:

A/ Do you want to 1. Remain or 2. Leave the EU.
B/ If a majority of the UK votes to Leave, should that be with 1. May's Deal or 2. No Deal.

— Ally Fogg (@AllyFogg) February 26, 2019

(as you can see (and you probably already all know) I disagree)

Oh Lord, she just said ‘simples!’ at the dispatch box *bangs head against pavement*

Did the MPs all fall about laughing?

ffs!

something something meerkat something something market oligarch something something putin

am I a bad person for instinctively thinking '1. remain 2. no deal' is the correct vote there

This is surely May "blinking first"?

I think the government is supposed to release its no deal risk assessments this week, isn’t it?

the risk is you let all the absolute dangers involved in the first remain campaign take the lead again and we barrel off into the no deal wilderness on an 80:20 defeat

Rees-Mogg says Brexiters won't back May's deal just to avoid short extension of article 50

On Sky News Jacob Rees-Mogg, the chair of the European Research Group, which represents Tories pushing for a harder Brexit, says what May is proposing on giving MPs a vote to extend article 50 would not change much. He says she is only proposing a short extension, and there would still be a cliff edge.

He says the threat of MPs voting for a short delay would not be enough to persuade Brexiters like himself to vote for May’s deal.

But if the delay were part of a project to delay Brexit altogether, that would be huge betrayal, he says.

ERG obv not having it.

i'm just sitting here quietly boggling on this sunny tuesday afternoon at the idea that we're now 42 days away from brexit day and we still have basically no idea how the biggest disruption to uk governance in decades us gonna work, it's absolutely fuckin' wild

let's trigger article 50 and be legernds

Jfc

So, to coin a phrase....nothing has changed. PM confirmed Parliament will have opportunity to vote for a v short ‘technical’ extension, but has NOT today taken ‘no deal’ off the table. Time for Ministers to step up...... @TheIndGroup pic.twitter.com/oERC7YeoPj

— Heidi Allen MP (@heidiallen75) February 26, 2019

they should’ve hired matt

Allen actually referring to IG supporters as Tiggers >:o

Tigger is the worst character too.

Are you posting from the week before last, bg?

lucky him if he is

Fuck this "no deal should be an option" drivel. Hey! Let's have a referendum on bringing back hanging. Fuck it, let's have one on whether it's time to restart the empire for the good of the forin.

underlines the issue

there are no good questions

no clear route to getting a referendum in play

and no clear strategy for not losing again

this morning I awoke suddenly from fever dreams covered in sweat before I remembered with great relief that the empire evaporated most satisfactorily decades ago and that the legitimacy of our precious democracy has not been imperilled (yet!!), then I logged on to defeat brexit

and no clear strategy for not losing again

― PaulDananVEVO (||||||||), Tuesday, February 26, 2019 2:54 PM (twenty-four minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

expose the leave figureheads for what they are, no holds barred

“She’s raised the white flag” one very unhappy Govt minister tells me. “Who cares if Amber Rudd resigns? Did anyone care last time? Who cares if Tobias Elwood resigns?” And then: “I can’t wait for Theresa May to sell her house. I’ll offer £1. She’ll probably say ‘I’ll take 50p.’”

— Daniel Hewitt (@DanielHewittITV) February 26, 2019

boo fuckin hoo

Imagine if we could suspend both Tony Blair and Chris Williamson on the same day. A proper BOGOF.

— Funny Tinge; Tendence Black (@judeinlondon2) February 26, 2019

pls

FFS that Williamson video. They should expel the fucker on the spot, he's both toxic and stupid.

Williamson is a grotesque moron in the Galloway/Livingstone mould who has arguably done more to fan the flames of Labour AS than the right wing press + the bbc together. Corbyn needs to realise everytime that fucking idiot opens his mouth - the story is "he's a Close Corbyn ally" until he actually shows the willing to discipline (or even chuck the fucking moron out the party tbf). This is where I do criticise Corbyn and genuinely despair at his leadership.

where's that? missed it.

I've not seen it myself, but seen enough of that predictable cunt to guess it.

WATCH: Chris Williamson tells a Sheffield Momentum meeting that Labour has been "too apologetic" about anti-Semitism... pic.twitter.com/zxtKdHQPvw

— Liz Bates (@wizbates) February 26, 2019

quelle fucking surprise.

thanks for the link. ffs.

The mindless bigotry of people who are absolutely convinced they are on unshakeable moral ground and everyone else is just trying to take them down.

I mean aside from being obviously fucking reprehensible it's so stupid and transparently self-defeating. Labour can't credibly claim anything about tackling antisemitism while this guy still has the whip.

some of the people who defend him ought to know better, and if someone had dismissed racism/islamophobia in the manner he dismisses antisemitism in that vid, then they would be condemning him, without question. i think some ppl seem to think antisemitism is somehow more permissible than racism, and this is a big problem.

i mean the crowd cheering this idiot is very worrying really.

this is fine

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/contract-shipping-nhs-supplies-given-14057910?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar

Very much in agreement with calzino today.

^^ it's bonkers and depressing they haven't kicked him out yet.

it doesn't seem as apparent to many MPs as it does Labour party members how toxic Williamson is. Even Burgon who seems thoroughly decent was posing in a pic with him a couple of weeks back.

fellow "Corbynite" matthew collings on the Williamson vid: "Facts, opinion, pretty well balanced."

probably best sticking to art in future.

I come across him in FB threads and his stubbornness is irritating. How difficult is it to not troll left-wing Jewish people who should be allies?

I think a large part of the issue with tackling CW is that he’s positioned himself as an MP that cares about the membership (yes i have nicked this theory & cant remember from where), and that’s not to be understated in a party where MPs & the members seem to be constantly at war.

I think it’s debatable as to whether Labour has ever been good at tackling its racists, though.

CW is giving succour to the cranks, obfuscators, idiots and deniers and has done so consistently for months

remove the whip imo

it doesn't seem as apparent to many MPs as it does Labour party members how toxic Williamson is.

yes - agree w gyac - CW’s résonance is a function of how openly hostile most of the PLP have been towards the membership - if they’d get one clue he would be a much more marginal figure. yet another argument for the deselection express