"oh you don't get me I'm the end of the union": lol brexit is how we're all gonna die

xp

I get this weird deja vu with Purnell, where stuff i probably read in private eye or elsewhere years ago comes back to me - like the photoshop incident, and the open letter to gordon. but other things like his post 2008 existence and rise to the head of BBC radio (or wtf his title is) are just a complete blank. had seriously forgotten he even existed - which is the right thing to do about 99.9% of politicians tbf.

He's head of Radio & Education at the BBC, which is very well paid but hardly the sort of coin he could be making.

that period he spent with Broon was more of a formative experience than he'll admit to!

"steers clear of smugness"

Christ alive pic.twitter.com/LosE7BxGLa

— Dan Bloom (@danbloom1) February 24, 2019

the ghast insufferables.

Ooh Gavin Shuker gets to be Judas.

for an anti-gay marriage, pro-lifer type christian, that must be a bit of blow for him.

"Shuker was opposed to the introduction of same-sex marriage. In 2012 he threatened to resign if Ed Miliband whipped Labour to support equal marriage."

it's a new way of doing politics.

if Soubry thinks they are all going to happily coalesce into a unified bunch of melts, she knows nothing about humanity and politics, but I think she knows she's talking crap. I can't wait for the first factions within the faction.

TIG asked - What are your policies?

“You’re asking through the prism of the old politics”

Are you going to field candidates?

“You’re looking at things through the paradigm of the 20th century”

What other political group/party would be allowed to get away with this?

— Ross Kempsell (@rosskempsell) February 24, 2019

embarrassing.

lmao at the advisory board for chuka’s think tank just being all the worst idiots off twitter - sodha, merrick, cliffe
https://www.progressive-centre.com/people

this thread feels broadly right

Corbyn is no antisemite. He doesn't hate Jews, he holds no prejudice for us and he has literally put his body between us and ideologies which would harm us.

However, he does not understand the nuances of antisemitism, and has seemingly no empathy for those telling him this.

— Maxim Lundlack-Orr (@maxim_lorr) February 24, 2019

a move towards instituting the reforms michael segalov advocated might be a way out of this impasse

yeah that Segalov piece was good and straightforward, there needs to be more push on this from Corbyn's woker supporters

tbh once the last corporate shill has left the PLP then Corbs's work is done and we can start looking for somebody better

tom watson on marr this morning. he clearly thinks he’s a future PM.

just reshuffle him out and replace him with someone else from his wing of the party. part spite, part bantz reshuffle

He's the elected deputy leader so that might be seen as somewhat inflammatory.

nominative T Waterism

Re Corbyn, the siege mentality mindset is part of it - but I also think, as he is someone that has a lot of Jewish friends, that in his mind he thinks that there’s no prejudice that he holds towards his friends and therefore people are attacking him unfairly. You know, like every person who’s behaved racistly ever! This is a really common mindset but it’s hugely damaging because the trust is just gone, really.

Meanwhile:

TIG defector Sarah Wollaston sponsored a 2011 bill to make by-elections compulsory for any MP changing party

Extraordinary pic.twitter.com/OOLWDyJJS3

— Ross Kempsell (@rosskempsell) February 24, 2019

And I see Zac Goldsmith on that hill too - his by election was ridiculous as he was subsequently redadmitted vut he did at least walk the walk.

my since apologies to tom watson for deposing him by coup earlier itt

loooooooooool at the bit on "robert salisbury" in this:
https://medium.com/@mrclyon/a-grifters-guide-to-milking-the-hedge-funds-b6df663bf6fb

whole thread is gold

hat tip @marthasydenham for the second one here pic.twitter.com/sbn9DZPcoI

— ciarán (@schmrn) June 8, 2018

C. Lyon is a treat

if any of them cunts in that thread ever call an election result correctly then it's time to crunch up the DFs with the mortar & pestle, bye bye shit world!

Asked what she would do if she lost the meaningful vote, May said: “Why is it that people are always trying to look for the next thing after the next thing after the next thing?

“It is pointless, we should focus on what we are doing now, which is working to get a deal, and bring that deal to a meaningful vote – which I want to see passed by the House of Commons and leave on 29 March.”

Whyyyyyy do people ask her questions like she ever had a clue or plan about anything? May summing herself up perfectly. Unable to see further than the end of her own nose.

as someone just pointed out on twitter, the fact that she’s now got an additional eight or nine MP safety buffer against a VONC makes her getting away with this crap significantly easier.

I think that has MLC considerably more optimistic than the great and good of ILX at that point!

With the difference being that most ilxors weren’t smug about it, I guess.

No meaningful vote until March! What the fuck?!

TIG defector Sarah Wollaston sponsored a 2011 bill to make by-elections compulsory for any MP changing party

I remember this, this was the first time I'd heard of her.

Guess that's why they're a group not a party with "values" not policies.

exactly, there is no party, there is only a finger pointing to the moon

a middle finger iirc

Shuker might make an objection to pointing at the moon as a symbol of their ..erm group, which could be construed as secularist or even paganist anti-christian propaganda.

loooooooooool at the bit on "robert salisbury" in this:
https://medium.com/@mrclyon/a-grifters-guide-to-milking-the-hedge-funds-b6df663bf6fb

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Sweet:

20 views for Ruth Davidson, who must have been in ‘be charming to journos’ mode rather than ‘greenlight sectarian dogwhistles to pull in the #numbers at the ballot box’ mode. If Ruth Davidson says “i’d like to pay by card” to a supermarket cashier she gets about 30 journalists praising her statesmanlike qualities ffs.

truth burn.

how much statecraft do you need to tap into sectarian bigotry? asking for a fiend.

I’ve heard the sectarian dogwhistles thing before, on here, and I don’t disbelieve it but is it much covered out there?

I very much doubt it. The English media, through a combination of ignorance and disinterest, don't care and the Scottish media are probably in favour of it.

having seen luciana berger on marr this morning I'm really surprised by the claims made about her as a genuine politician. She came across as absolutely deluded. At least heidi allen was clearly not arguing any of her "evidenced" based gibberish in good faith. Berger seemed be actually buying that a party formed around a threadbare neoliberal "vision" was going to calibrate itself in accordance with self-governing principals of consensus.

The sense of entitlement is what's most galling. "we haven't even had a meeting yet!" then why are you claiming MPs salary and doing all this press, what public service are we to presume is being done by this PR firm with a paypal account in panama?

Has Amber Rudd’s brother Roland - one of the PV organisers - got anything to do with this shower?

Berger can keep on message and react quickly, which, when your entire party is based around maintaining a thin veneer of professionalism, is handy. She has always been terrible though.

The Marr interview was quite useful in confirming the obvious- they do have policies, they just don’t want to share them out loud.

Should water be nationalised? It doesn’t feel like it should but let’s have a conversation.

Should the top rate of tax be 50p? It doesn’t feel right but let’s have an evidence-based conversation.

Should we have tuition fees at university? Well, I want to deliver a memorised answer on early learning...

LOL, quick dash round Streatham by Sky News struggles to find anyone who would vote for Chuka Ummuna again.

otm plax + SV. I know she has took some horrible abuse and some say she has done good + righteous campaigning for mental health services, but that was an embarrassing shitshow and she's making Liz Kendall look good.

Gotta say she seems like a typical Habs Girls product to me ie. super-entitled and ‘professional’.

well its also bizarre, if you have been an MP for X years, surely you have some idea of what the evidence is "from other countries" on rail renationalisation. A lot of people would say the evidence in Germany, say, shows that a nationalised rail service can be managed infinitely better etc. It does seem really cheeky to act like political vision and approaches to key questions of policy are somehow unrelated. Also, the idea of evidence based policy is complete nonsense.

a bit like the moral maze on R4 when they get Sir Rog Scrote and +1 each spectator/spiked crew and then say let's see where this discussion goes...

Marr couldn't have been much gentler with them and they just collapsed. Also it was clear that Berger doesn't actually like or agree with Allen and was visibly cringing throughout.

it was obvious that allen wasn't going to go to bat for any of their shared vision beyond a few profile-raising media appearances.

i think this group will end up just as divided as the main parties. And they can't maintain this nebulous "but we're the good guys, trust us" spiel forever. however much the BBC seem to want to maintain it.

by their own admission and tacitly there is no sense of communal identity from the get go other than we want to fuck corbyn on the former labour side and we don’t want brexit but will support the tories on the other side.

the tactical advantage it gives May is meaningful (that vonc buffer) and is probably partly responsible for the really undemocratic further delay. ummuna and co deserve to be thrown in the pit, tho obv it’s hard to be sorry to see them go.

Berger can keep on message and react quickly, which, when your entire party is based around maintaining a thin veneer of professionalism, is handy. She has always been terrible though.

The Marr interview was quite useful in confirming the obvious- they do have policies, they just don’t want to share them out loud.

Should water be nationalised? It doesn’t feel like it should but let’s have a conversation.

Should the top rate of tax be 50p? It doesn’t feel right but let’s have an evidence-based conversation.

Should we have tuition fees at university? Well, I want to deliver a memorised answer on early learning...