US Politics February 2019: This is one of the great losers of all time.

bonus points for using the word "plurality" while looking a pre-teen in the eye, though

This Twitter thread has a version of the video that tells...a different story.

Here's the @SenFeinstein video threaded #DianneFeinstein To recap: she engaged on substance, told them she might vote "yes," and OFFERED ONE OF THEM AN INTERNSHIP. pt 1 pic.twitter.com/2Qgob2CH1V

— Tommy MMXIXtopher (@tommyxtopher) February 23, 2019

JFC she sounds like fucking Trump

she's still awful xp

unperson that's very disingenuous. are you kidding? i'll type out my dumb response if you want, but first just let me know whether or not you're kidding

one of the kids in that video you posted here, the one this guy tweeted

https://i.imgur.com/0KnY6wB.png

FEINSTEIN: "there's no way to pay for it"
SMALL CHILD:"we have tons of money going to the military. half our money, a lot of our money is going to the military"
FEINSTEIN: "well, i understand that. the United States government does a lot of things with the money. and they're important things. and you can't just go in saying 'we'll take hundreds of millions from there, and hundreds of millions from there."

"she engaged them on substance"? the small child is more informed on how our federal budget is allocated than the vast majority of adults

actually, you CAN go in there saying we'll take hundreds of millions from there, and hundreds of millions from there. Feinstein and all of her pals just voted for more than a billion in funding for protection from the invasion from Mexico. that didn't have to be spent that way. the green new deal would cost far more than that (while trying to fight a crisis that will cost FAR FAR more than that, even, if left unmitigated). there is plenty of money in the united states. it's locked up in the hands of a couple thousand billionaires who pay several million to financial advisors so that they can figure out ways to avoid paying tens of millions in taxes. what does Feinstein have to say about that? perhaps she should just fucking retire??

https://i.imgur.com/0KnY6wB.png

hay i'm capt. save a hat here to defend dianne fucking feinstein, who has a net worth of $94 million and doesn't give a shit about anything because she can just run away to her mansion at the end of the day, from children who are owning her

PLURALITY!

you, a child, may think that diane feinstein should support the green deal so that you have a chance of living in a world that isn't living hell when you're older

but what you, a child, do not know is that diane feinstein won with a plurality of the votes, by over 1 million, in fact

god bless the sunrise movement. FUCK these old guard politicians who have been so rich for so long that they no longer have an idea about what's happening

and fuck that dumbass with the hat who tweets

well DF is about to be played in a major motion picture by Annette Bening, what does she care?

and fuck that dumbass with the hat who tweets

― Karl Malone, Saturday, February 23, 2019 3:39 AM (eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I thought it was max boot at first. fuck all these people.

the longer video isn't exonerating. Feinstein just applies a bit more polite condescension at the beginning.

I genuinely believe that she legit does not care, or maybe cares about as much as she might care about, I don't know, re-zoning in some neighborhood in San Francisco. it's like, a real issue, but not one she would ever care to get worked up about. because she'll be dead in 10 years.

I hope it isn't controversial to suggest that people who make shitty decisions on the basis that they won't be alive to deal with the consequences should probably just get on with that whole 'not being alive' thing asap.

our very own hoos did a good tweet about this

@hoosteen: Idea: if your current age has only been made available by recent increases in life expectancy, maybe go find more joy in your last decade by leaving politics to people who have the next century in mind

there are plenty of older folks who do care, though. just not Feinstein.

Yeah but does hoos understand that she needs to win elections? she won with a plurality of the vote, nearly one million. She knows how to win elections. Why isn’t hoos tweeting about that?

I'm mostly amused by the sheer idiocy of using the word "plurality" in front of an 11 year old (even an extremely articulate one).

I mean that's a teachable moment I suppose.

what the fuck

well DF is about to be played in a major motion picture by Annette Bening, what does she care?

Karl's reasoning on "what does she care" was more roundly convincing than this counter tbf

if only Dan White's marksmanship... nah

DF will be dead or out of office soon enough. Though I thought this last year, and for several years before that.

Anyway, expected at this stage, but also of note since per various legal types, the fact that a redacted version is required indicates that investigations are still very much in play -- ie, no report was coming next week, as had been stated earlier yesterday anyway.

JUST IN: Mueller's office did on Friday request to file its sentencing memo under seal in Manafort's case. Judge Amy Berman Jackson has granted that request and ordered Mueller's office to file a redacted version on the public docket. pic.twitter.com/E19G76fGqM

— Chris Geidner (@chrisgeidner) February 23, 2019

these reports mueller is almost done show up seemingly every few weeks

When Ms. Feinstein dies or retires she will be lauded to the skies by her colleagues. If one doubts this will happen it is instructive to review the case of Strom Thurmond for comparison.

xpost I'm now concluding what others have before -- namely, that this is all wish fulfillment on the part of the White House and associated types, and they're constantly trying to tempt fate (and keep failing). Presumably the dynamic Trump is operating under is that now he's once again got 'his' man in place, since Whitaker didn't in fact do anything, and that he was trying to push things along somehow. And pretty soon he'll realize Barr isn't helping him either and he'll start complaining once more.

yeah make sense. the CW seems to be don jr and maybe jared will also be indicted before this is actually in the home stretch.

Breaking News: Michael Cohen, President Trump’s former lawyer, gave prosecutors information about possible irregularities at the Trump family business

In further breaking news, dog bites man, rain continues to be wet, mothers and apple pie generally viewed with affection.

these reports mueller is almost done show up seemingly every few weeks

“reports” would come from people in a position to know, not from unsourced faces on talk TV saying “maybe” because they have three hours to fill.

Why anyone thinks he is almost done is beyond me. it's already been significantly shorter than the Starr investigation, and this one involves hundreds and hundreds of relatively recently seized documents and international intrigue. The only thing I wonder about is the 2020 timing. Is it better (for Trump or America) for the report to come out before the election or after?

it's already been significantly shorter than the Starr investigation

i'm not sure that's a fair comparison to make, though. didn't the starr investigation technically extend all the way back to whitewater / vince foster shit, only to eventually lead to monica lewinsky? i was still a young whippersnapper during that era so i don't remember all the details, but my impression was that the starr investigation was basically going to keep going until they found something that they could nail clinton on

yeah Starr was the textbook definition of "fishing", which is why it dragged on.

Well, at the very least he had a different mandate, or at least more expansive powers. Starr was totally independent, nothing could shut him down. Mueller is different in part because of the way Starr handled it. The inevitable irony is that I wish Mueller had Starrs formal independence.

Anyway, back to my question about the 2020 election. Is it better for the report to come out before or after? if it comes out after, and contains bad stuff, there is an even better chance he might get reelected first, and then he could end his term before all the prosecution/arguing is done. If it comes out beforehand and doesn't have bad things, it gives him an election boost.

it needs to come out the Friday before the election. that's the only karmic justice.

i've spent a fair time thinking about it and have come around to the opinion that in terms of electability, it just doesn't matter. all of his supporters will vote for him no matter what. they're beyond redemption and have been for several years at least. what matters for the 2020 election is getting everyone who hates trump (which is the majority of people, i think) to get off their asses and vote this time around. a damning mueller report might help with that, but really, trump is already guilty in the eyes of so many people that i doubt it will matter that much anyway

It is better if it comes out when Mueller thinks he has completed his investigation as thoroughly as he thought was required. Let the chips fall where they may. If the nation can't absorb this wisely without our being spoonfed at the proper moment, then we will absorb it foolishly. It's all on us, not on Mueller.

like, who is the hypothetical undecided voter who is eagerly waiting on the findings of the mueller report at this point? and who is the hypothetical trump voter that will be swayed by a damning mueller report? they just don't exist anymore

What happens to the investigation or report if Trump doesn't get reelected before it comes out?

I mean it still continues right?

I dont' think the report stops if he leaves office, esp since they could prosecute him then.

for that matter, given that Trump is already guilty in the eyes of so many, what happens if the report comes out and vindicates him? or if the report comes out and doesn't mention anything about him specificly at all?

was it here or somewhere else where there was a quote from senator Burr, who claimed that a lot of tangents of the Senate investigations are apparently very different from what Mueller is looking at. in a perfect world, whether before or after, Trump is hit by the results of several major investigations at once, all covering different facets of criminality and malfeasance.

The definitive answer to all these questions lies in our future. We'll know more when it arrives.

xp -- I for one congratulate senator Feinstein for singlehandedly giving the Green New Deal more traction via yelling at a bunch of precocious kids

(I know the video is edited, but the only exonerating context is it being a literal deepfake. otherwise there's pretty much no context in which those clips should ever have happened -- "you see, this shouting at a room full of 7-year-olds is actually a selectively chosen part of the 'shit sandwich' management strategy and will prepare these kids for the real world, where their death via natural disaster will be cushioned on either end by a hug and a nice funeral")

i've spent a fair time thinking about it and have come around to the opinion that in terms of electability, it just doesn't matter. all of his supporters will vote for him no matter what. they're beyond redemption and have been for several years at least. what matters for the 2020 election is getting everyone who hates trump (which is the majority of people, i think) to get off their asses and vote this time around. a damning mueller report might help with that, but really, trump is already guilty in the eyes of so many people that i doubt it will matter that much anyway

― Karl Malone, Saturday, February 23, 201

I posted this response a few days ago. Take the independents away and he loses.