2020 Democratic presidential primary

I’d rather a president—like warren or bernie—who seems kind of blissfully ignorant of the woke paradigm but remains committed to fighting against racism and sexism than I would someone who is so “in it” that they know how to navigate every interview perfectly, without stepping on a pointless landmine. The more different they are than everyone I know in Williamsburg and ilx the better.

people don’t need to like bernie but the way democrats are vetting their candidates is absurd. it’s 100% reactive and based on how things look and completely eager to misread any little thing

tbf tho treesh, being chill with someone who's not woke but is genially and ignorantly anti-racism is like "i'm okay with fighting racism not being a priority." which i don't think is the position you mean to be staking out but idk i think this form of comfort is a kind of white privilege. one whole point of wokeness is that being a well-intentioned white person isn't enough in and of itself.

It’s not “idpol v. class” either, it’s a form of discourse where the ither side is assumed to have bad intentions and nothing of vaue to say. Chapo is totally like this too—flippant and reactive.

I get that doctor, it’s not even that idea of standpoint theory it’s the way it’s deployed that’s making discourse stop functioning

It's problematic that marginalized people can identify right away what's wrong with that statement and the "most well-intentioned white person" can't. And it's not a dig because everyone has their own personal experiences that they draw from and expectation of others, but when it's a collective epidemic of these experiences for non-white people and white people casually brush it off as a degree of "wokeness" ...all people need to try harder at being empathetic without feeling a need of to make sure their hands are clean. (I am also on my 3rd glass of wine).

Each of these instances of Bernie bumbling I have gone "ooooooohhhhhhhhh" without even knowing anyone else's reaction. And then yeah, people are not happy, it's not just me.

What’s wrong is he said ppl might be “not racist” bur not wanting a black governor. That’s definitely wrong—voting based on race is racist. What he meant was thing are trending another way and these people could come around eventually, as i’m sure many voters did on obama.

So the issue is he doesnt want to condemn but persuade this population. I dont know if thats the wrong approach. That is the approach obama took.

I know what he meant but it goes back to him constantly centering make white or racist people feel comfortable/important rather than calling out a problem accurately (which is a non-shocker). AOC is good at not doing this although even she has some issues. Bernie is just cringe cringe cringe.

xpost that approach is default for most people which is why it gets offensive coming from someone who is supposedly the white saviour of progressivism.

the way democrats are vetting their candidates is absurd. it’s 100% reactive and based on how things look and completely eager to misread any little thing

In other words, truly AMERICAN!

PLZ NO OFFICEHOLDERS AS SAVIORS, ever.

choose sides: savior or daddy bernie

Lol

I'm glad that more candidates are talking about reparations. It's embarrassing that it seems like a pipe dream.

this is where i'm at, pretty much

candidates you would enthusiastically vote for if they were ultimately the nominee, tell yr friends etc

warren
sanders
harris
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people you would vote for, whatever level

gillibrand
biden

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hold your nose and vote for them (it's entirely because trump sucks so badly)

booker
castro (maybe the level above? i don't know)
klobuchar
beto
bloomberg (at least he's good on climate change)

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fuck this world nominees, i'd rather vote for that tree over there, there is no hope, fuck all of this, whatever

gabbard
schultz
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who the fuck are these people

buttguy
delaney

my tiers are very tentative; convince me to change my ways

also, gillibrand is very close to top tier for me - for some reason i just don't read as much about her as i do the others. but i could be convinced.

buttigieg is good! he's top tier for me honestly, would love it if he became VP also

gillibrand and klobuchar are hold your nose level for me

also biden is a nose-holder, maybe even worse, more like a slow motion centrist disaster. he needs to go ASAP.

other than that I agree w/yr takes

Yeah, I'm a Buttigieg fan, too.

.@PeteButtigieg on court packing: “It’s no more a departure from norms than what the Republicans did to get the judiciary to the place it is today….Bold, ambitious ideas need a hearing right now."

— Lis Smith (@Lis_Smith) February 20, 2019

yeah generally agree with karl's tiers but I like buttigieg too

gillibrand is lowest tier for me

i haven't even looked into buttigieg, mea culpa

but is this kind of a dennis kucinich deal where actually he's alright but david letterman is going to make fun of him until he goes away? i mean i already called him the butt guy. fuck

Gillibrand felt like a much bigger deal before she announced.

yang is interesting but no traction, can't really see past bernie/warren

wait, buttigieg was a consultant at mckinsey and he's still in the navy. i'm sure he can punch people in the face ,ok

I liked this little profile recently

https://www.newyorker.com/news/the-political-scene/pete-buttigiegs-quiet-rebellion

i will actually look into him more seriously when my BAC drops below 80%. i do like his quote from the tweet jaymc posted above.

Buttigieg is a fine candidate who would be a great candidate if he'd already been a governor or something. I just can't see the mayor of South Bend ascending directly to the WH, but I didn't see Trump getting there either.

I still truly like Gillibrand, but I'm all in on Liz Warren until further notice.

I’d love to see more mayors running

speaking of!

I used to have napalm. https://t.co/XLu2be0vsj

— Richard M. Nixon (@dick_nixon) February 22, 2019

I have to keep reminding myself that Buttigieg's name is pronounced BOOT-edge-edge

I have to keep reminding myself that Richard Nixon is no longer alive and isn't on Twitter.

Jack is dead, Bobby is dead, Teddy is dead, poor damn dumb Reagan is dead. But I’m still here.

— Richard M. Nixon (@dick_nixon) January 1, 2019

What about Dennis Perrin? What's his status?

Dead

A very sobering take:

https://crooked.com/articles/democrats-delusion-filibuster/

I really hope they have bigger ambitions, but I'm not seeing it so far.

did not know warren supported abolishing the fillibuster -- possibly -- and benrie didn't! that kind of info is actually useful

If Kamala Harris said the same exact thing I’m sure guys like this wouldn’t dunk on her for it

just remembered the greatest bernie quote of all time pic.twitter.com/kjZ0spOuo9

— KT Nelson (@KrangTNelson) May 26, 2017

"killer mike has never killed anybody"

good campaign motto tbh

It was awesome how he owned the parkland kids

Gummy OTM

let's get rid of Nerdstrom by day's end

Honestly he shouldnt be banned

nerd's diaper has been very full the last 24 hours

treeship stay out of it, you milksop

Bans should be for abusive posters not people with a different pov