US Politics February 2019: This is one of the great losers of all time.

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illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 21 February 2019 20:32 (seven years ago)

no I could absolutely tell that, I just don't think casting generalizations about mental illness nor telling people to kill themselves are good things

I want to change my display name (dan m), Thursday, 21 February 2019 20:40 (seven years ago)

gaslighting means so many things now it is hard to keep up

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 21 February 2019 20:42 (seven years ago)

i apologize for using the phrase mental illness. i knew better but wasn't thinking.

however i still think his motives seem opaque and if he was a friend of mine i'd probably advise him to do some work to find out why he acted in that way.

his actions were destructive but -- maybe -- not malicious. i'm sick of the public shaming culture. he should be held accountable but this doesn't need to define his life.

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 21 February 2019 20:47 (seven years ago)

it's a pretty incredibly fucking bad thing to do and almost monstrously selfish

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Thursday, 21 February 2019 20:48 (seven years ago)

and yeah it shows a lack of judgment that's so incredibly out of the ordinary that you do sort of have to wonder about his sanity. but whatever.

affects breves telnet (Gummy Gummy), Thursday, 21 February 2019 20:48 (seven years ago)

i'm sick of the public shaming culture.

Yup, this stroy has received quite a lot of attention. It is germane to point out that this is true largely because it was intended by the perpetrator to generate a lot of attention, who designed it purposely to draw the maximum possible publicity to what he did. It worked. This is not how "public shaming culture" generally operates.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 21 February 2019 20:55 (seven years ago)

BURN.

Judge ABJ: "It's the lawyers, not Mr. Stone, who were appalled. So thank you for the apology, but it rings quite hollow."

— Britain Eakin (@BritainEakin) February 21, 2019

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 February 2019 20:56 (seven years ago)

11:21: "He’s probably mentally ill. "
2:47: "i'm sick of the public shaming culture."

You should post less.

ILX Moderator: It's Like a Pressure Wash for Your Insides (WmC), Thursday, 21 February 2019 20:57 (seven years ago)

!

Judge ABJ says his release under the current set of conditions without modification does pose a danger to the others and/or the community.

— Britain Eakin (@BritainEakin) February 21, 2019

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 February 2019 20:58 (seven years ago)

Jackson: "The privilege, the liberty he was afforded was promptly abused. You were right about that Mr. Stone. If the conduct of the past weekend is what Mr. Stone would call judicious, it would be foolhardy for the court to take no action and learn what injudicious looks like"

— Zoe Tillman (@ZoeTillman) February 21, 2019

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 February 2019 20:59 (seven years ago)

I suspect the judge silently includes herself among those "others and the community".

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 21 February 2019 21:00 (seven years ago)

Judge ABJ is modifying the gag order. "No Mr. Stone, I'm not giving you another chance. I have serious doubt whether you learned any lesson at all." He can no longer speak publicly about the investigation or case, but he can still fundraise and proclaim his innocence.

— Britain Eakin (@BritainEakin) February 21, 2019

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 February 2019 21:01 (seven years ago)

Smart call. Stone and his cronies were all fired up for an immediate gag order from the start and were going to challenge it. Instead Jackson gave him enough rope to immediately hang himself. Now she restricts him further, but not entirely, and jail still hasn't come up yet. He is obviously getting a last chance, and that'll prevent him from claiming he had no chances.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 February 2019 21:03 (seven years ago)

And indeed.

Judge ABJ makes it clear that this is his second chance. "This is not baseball. There will not be a third chance," she says. ABJ is clear that she will detain Stone ahead of trial if he violates the new gag order. And that's a wrap folks.

— Britain Eakin (@BritainEakin) February 21, 2019

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 February 2019 21:04 (seven years ago)

You should post less.

― ILX Moderator: It's Like a Pressure Wash for Your Insides (WmC), Thursday, February 21, 2019 3:57 PM (ten minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i agree

Trϵϵship, Thursday, 21 February 2019 21:07 (seven years ago)

what he's done to the next person who comes forward with a true story, among many other things.

Yeah, assuming the Smollett thing is what it currently seems to be, it's food for the righty media's worst shitheads. Limbaugh literally compared it to Trayvon Martin and Ferguson.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 21 February 2019 21:35 (seven years ago)

yeah good comparison there Limballs, considering Trayvon and Brown are both actually dead, asshole

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 February 2019 21:47 (seven years ago)

One of the more satisfying photos of Mr. Stone in a while. (Linked because hueg.)

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 21 February 2019 21:59 (seven years ago)

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/north-carolina-hold-9th-congressional-district-election-amidst-212024981.html

The North Carolina state board of elections voted unanimously on Thursday to hold a new election in the 9th Congressional District – a move that came hours after Mark Harris, the man at the center of the case, testified.

"I believe a new election should be called," Harris said during the hearing on Thursday adding that his conclusion is based on the testimony he has heard over the last four days.

lmao "based on the testimony"

omar little, Thursday, 21 February 2019 22:15 (seven years ago)

"they caught me"

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 21 February 2019 22:16 (seven years ago)

i'm sure kris kobach is very concerned about this and will take steps to address the issue in his continuing efforts to fight election fraud

Karl Malone, Thursday, 21 February 2019 22:19 (seven years ago)

wait, whose team was the fraudulent guy on? nevermind, disregard

Karl Malone, Thursday, 21 February 2019 22:19 (seven years ago)

Does Harris get to be a candidate in this new election?

Scam jam, thank you ma’am (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 21 February 2019 22:29 (seven years ago)

exactly...he shouldn't even be able to stand for election. WTF. Dude got caught probably doing something criminal; on top of that his new excuse is lack of mental acuity. Go home.

akm, Thursday, 21 February 2019 22:37 (seven years ago)

I think republicans most of all wants to get him off of there.

Frederik B, Thursday, 21 February 2019 22:38 (seven years ago)

Renderings of this 'Roger Stone' character suggest that CGI technology has a long way to go before it's clear of the uncanny valley. That face just isn't at all convincing, sorry.

St. Boniface, patron saint of boner faces (Old Lunch), Thursday, 21 February 2019 23:28 (seven years ago)

where do you get suits like that?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 21 February 2019 23:31 (seven years ago)

pinhead in a pinstripe

“Emotional Interest Underwear” (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 21 February 2019 23:35 (seven years ago)

Suitopia

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Thursday, 21 February 2019 23:35 (seven years ago)

i know, i know, it’s really serious xp

“Emotional Interest Underwear” (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 21 February 2019 23:36 (seven years ago)

Why are his wadded boxers tucked into his breast pocket? Is that a Nixon thing?

St. Boniface, patron saint of boner faces (Old Lunch), Thursday, 21 February 2019 23:39 (seven years ago)

The thing I find confusing about the NC election controversy is that I thought it was the downballot races that got tampered with. Why wouldn't those also be re-done?

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 22 February 2019 00:06 (seven years ago)

I'm really torn on Barstool vs. Gun Girl poopgate.... Those dudes are the worst on the other hand seeing every one of her troll gun posts devolve into hundreds of ppl saying she pooped her pants is kind of amazing

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 22 February 2019 00:11 (seven years ago)

sounds like you're into some really cool shit

if this is a simulation.. i gotta say, it's a pretty good simulation! (esby), Friday, 22 February 2019 00:20 (seven years ago)

oh I don't know esby the internet is a mixed bag really

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 22 February 2019 00:20 (seven years ago)

sorry i'm still riding the high from the visceral thrill i experienced earlier when a us judge modified roger stone's gag order. life really can be this amazing.

if this is a simulation.. i gotta say, it's a pretty good simulation! (esby), Friday, 22 February 2019 00:22 (seven years ago)

I'm sure yours isn't

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Friday, 22 February 2019 04:16 (seven years ago)

this transcript is literally everything I hoped it would be pic.twitter.com/CrvBQ0pZMu

— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) February 22, 2019

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 February 2019 05:15 (seven years ago)

finally read the two chotiner interviews from earlier this week. boot is full of shit and amoral, which is about par for the course i guess. but victor davis hanson is fucking insane

mookieproof, Friday, 22 February 2019 14:54 (seven years ago)

I can't believe I still have to hear those names in 2019

rob, Friday, 22 February 2019 14:58 (seven years ago)

good morning!

a Stalin Stale Ale for me, please (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 February 2019 15:06 (seven years ago)

and things are looking worse for FIU's former law school dean and Trump's labor secretary

a Stalin Stale Ale for me, please (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 February 2019 15:07 (seven years ago)

Everything's been in plain sight the whole time:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0BZbhSXQAU6sxI.jpg

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 February 2019 16:05 (seven years ago)

(From the Michael Lewis book.)

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 February 2019 16:06 (seven years ago)

i think that exchange was in the woodward book too

Trϵϵship, Friday, 22 February 2019 16:09 (seven years ago)

BREAKING: New York state prosecutors have put together a criminal case against Manafort that they could file quickly if Trump pardons him https://t.co/tr7cPP4mqv

— Bloomberg Politics (@bpolitics) February 22, 2019

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 February 2019 16:23 (seven years ago)

BREAKING:

Dog shows @AOC affection pic.twitter.com/4ccalNWH9Q

— Reuters Top News (@Reuters) February 22, 2019

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 22 February 2019 16:38 (seven years ago)

re: the mueller report and whether or not it will be made public, this reader email to TPM makes a good point:

As you’ve written previously, it seems likely that AG Barr is going to try to do what he can for President Trump, within certain limits of professional reputation, responsibility, etc. It probably wasn’t that surprising, therefore, when he made public comments that suggested that he wouldn’t necessarily make the Mueller report (whatever there is) public in its entirety, particularly if there was information that was derogatory about uncharged individuals (e.g. President Trump or members of his family).

But what I was struck by this evening was the question of what happens if it goes the other way? What if, despite the suspicions of many of us, Mueller concludes that there really *wasn’t* any coordination or attempted coordination between the institutional Trump Campaign and Russia (and perhaps that Manafort was essentially freelancing for his own benefit)?

In that case, wouldn’t we expect the WH position to be that they would *want* the report released in its entirety? After all, the President appears to care much more about personal vindication than anything else, even if it means throwing some other “uncharged individual’ lower down on the totem pole under the bus a bit. (Or even ignoring what may be real national security equities in keeping portions of the report secret, as with the Nunes Memo.) And even making the somewhat unrealistic assumption that the President manages not to expressly communicate that desire to the AG, it would have to be blazingly obvious to the AG on his own.

But if that’s true, then it seems like there’s an implicit tell. If the report isn’t released (or immediately leaked), it’s presumably because there’s *something* derogatory about the President or his closest associates. The alternative, that the AG has decided to take a stand on principle, against the President’s wishes, when the substantive result of the Mueller investigation is to clear the President just seems too unrealistic to credit.

Karl Malone, Friday, 22 February 2019 16:42 (seven years ago)

I assume the administration will claim total vindication no matter what.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 February 2019 16:45 (seven years ago)


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