"oh you don't get me I'm the end of the union": lol brexit is how we're all gonna die

There is a rumour Ian Austin has gone but nobody at his office is picking up the phone so journalists can’t check.

Most southerners who are a few hours' drive away (which is probably more southerners than it used to be) will have taken a trip to investigate price differentials at some time, I think.

Please god let it be true. xp

I don’t want ian austin to go - only because it makes it less likely for ian murray to jump

I wonder which of the TIGs tried to swipe the Labour mailing list?

I hope they enjoy their gigantic GDPR lawsuit.

corbyn has done a comment on shamima begum

The correct one though I did laugh at his old man rambling towards the end

She was born in Britain, she has that right to remain in Britain and obviously a lot of questions she has to answer but also some support that she needs.

She obviously has, in my view, a right to return to Britain. On that return she must face a lot of questions about everything she’s done. And at that point any action may or may not be taken.

I think the idea of stripping somebody of their citizenship when they were born in Britain is a very extreme manoeuvre.

Indeed I question the right of the home secretary to have these powers when the original law was brought in by Theresa May when she was home secretary.

The entire liberal establishment of America and Britain has spent the last two years tying themselves into increasingly tight knots to convince themselves that all of their misfortunes are down to Russian subversion. pic.twitter.com/Dg2EXwzTc1

— Flying_Rodent (@flying_rodent) February 21, 2019

This take burnt my eyelashes off and I find it deeply hilarious that people are still on the “Corbyn bad, McDonnell good” track.

up to do the shopping on the first saturday in december lads, religiously

and i do mean religiously

all gone now alas, this was our spade, no more we'll dig it to the beat of a lambeg, mullahinch no more and the union jack kerbing our eyesll see neer again *switches into seannós wail* hush at the back and a bit of respect for the song

xps
there was a Moral Maze discussing shamima begum last night - some real poisonous bilge from claire fox + anne mcelvoy as expected. That fucking program.

xp go brónach yeeeeo

im old school i can sing out of either nostril

I find it deeply hilarious that people are still on the “Corbyn bad, McDonnell good” track

This is exactly what people used to do with Blair and Brown until pretty much the exact moment Brown got the keys to Number 10. It's a weird compulsion.

I do think that McDonnell is the sharper political operator and does more of the media heavy lifting - both when something's gone wrong and when there's an ambitious new policy to float - but I don't think there's exactly an ideological schism between the two of them, it's just that he's better at that stuff.

May need to adjust my tinfoil hat, but the weird period last year when even Jason Crowley was writing admiring profiles of JMc in the New Wasteman made me think that someone somewhere had a fucktonne of dirt on him they were just itching to publish the moment he becomes leader.

Might be will to discuss a moratorium on Marie Le Conte tweets if we can bury Flying Rodent in the same grave.

*willing

pmsl

lol at mcdonnell being all 'i think he's gone but haven't checked' about austin. the correct approach https://t.co/pAPeXJeuRe

— ciarán (@schmrn) February 21, 2019

I "lost one" this morning as well!

Ian Austin's Twitter bio - "MP for Dudley, the greatest place in the world."

Sure pretty much the entire population of Dudley will agree that this is absolutely not the case

I think he was dismissed as "hepatitis" on a tory election pamphlet .. they might not get rid of him so easy!

Just googling to check when Dudley Zoo closed.

Isn't John Mann supposed to be off as well? His website isn't working and no mention of Labour on his twitter bio (although I don't know if it ever did - him being such a rebel and all).
Perhaps TIG don't want him?

Still going apparently, OK it is the greatest place in the world

Dudley Zoo + Black Country Museum are both excellent, nevertheless...

Mann's a Brexiteer, so it's the EDL for him.

The *other* Indie Group

The EDL probably wouldn't take Mann though, too much of a dickhead even for them.

I wonder which of the TIGs tried to swipe the Labour mailing list?

― suzy, Thursday, 21 February 2019 14:49 (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/feb/21/labour-reports-former-mp-joan-ryan-over-alleged-data-breach

Just to be clear: I did not talk about “the seven MPs”. I was referring to Luciana Berger. I have absolutely no time for the others at all. https://t.co/De4sVrHIw2

— Barry Gardiner (@BarryGardiner) February 21, 2019

He's clumsy as fuck but has a heart of gold!

John Barnes on QT, what a dimwit.

fucking footballers all need executing.

even intellectuals like Dean Windass.

Barnes was always thick as pigshit.

well he did think celtic was a good little club for his career trajectory towards real madrid tranmere to start!

Jesus Christ, shut this fool up. Barnes not Calz.

I don’t watch this muck, what’s he saying?

here’s a transcript:

You've got to hold and give but do it at the right time
You can be slow or fast but you must get to the line
They'll always hit you and hurt you, defend and attack
There's only one way to beat them, get round the back
Catch me if you can, cause I'm the England man
And what you're looking at is the master plan
We ain't no hooligans, this ain't a football song
Three lions on my chest, I know we can't go wrong

without watching I'm going to guess barnes has a very hodgepodge political vision that is probably on the tory side, but remainish, with some curveballs. all very badly argued

He was asked about his comments in support of Liam Neeson and went on a rambling incoherent monologue, starting off with something about how if Liam Neeson's friend had been attacked by a Frenchman or a Lithuanian he'd have been out hunting for Frenchmen or Lithuanians - how he would manage that I know not. Then he got onto the Troubles and how an Irish friend (Liam Neeson or Lawro?) had explained to him how hatred between Catholics and Protestants existed and how, if a Protestant does something terrible to a Catholic, or vice versa, the Catholic will hate all Protestants, and vice versa. Then it was a lot of gibberish about racism - oh yes, the Jews aren't a race so can anti-Semitism be described as racism - which I zoned out of because I genuinely couldn't follow what he was saying. And he got a round of applause at the end!

hahahaha

don't know how folk watch question time. id need a few blue valium after watching if i wanted to get any sleep, i end up so livid whenever i catch a minute of it

is corbynz a marx

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qm7_syQ6SQQ

Idk how they are going to get by as a party with, at most, four people who can stand in front of a camera without embarrassing themselves and Berger the only one of them not a Tory.

Holy shit, this is the apotheosis of neoliberal antipolitics. pic.twitter.com/zYrv8h9KCk

— Sara Byrella 🐯🐻 (@umbyrella) February 21, 2019

This is pretty amazing.

"you are still stuck in the old way of doing things this is something new.."

sneering at those sticks in the mud that still go to bingo halls on the way to the shiny new fangled discotheque!

I love the way she is inferring that a thousand agreeable policies will flower in an organic manner because of their obvious common values, don't you see stupid .. it's us!

The Utopia scene linked in the replies is too *chefs kiss* for words.

The Corbyn Marxist video is a masterpiece! I hadn’t seen the original interview either, looks like it’s incredibly vacuous.

Seems like Barnes had a slight mare on QT but tbf I've found some of his comments quite thoughtful and brave on some issues of late - an attempt to unify and allow a culture in which people admit and discuss their own failures or prejudices. I don't think that can ever properly happen in the media or even online though - his take seems to be that there are natural tendencies towards discrimination and prejudice which need to be admitted to in order to be fought - I can see value in that, with a dose of the idea that nobody will ever be brought along to more progressive views by being lambasted.

I mean he's not an intellectual so prob shouldn't be going on QT etc but on Raheem Sterling and on Liam Neeson to an extent he was worth listening to.

He can say the word 'nuance', he's from a middle class military background ergo he's an intelligent footballer, he's always struck as being a dimmer than average footballer. By the way, next time the Labour Party are invited to send someone to appear on a programme with Chris Leslie they should make sure they send someone as niggly as possible, because Leslie is so easily rattled and is on the verge of having an embarrassing ranting meltdown.