2020 Democratic presidential primary

fortunately we have more than one option this time

"We have a president of the United States who is a pathological liar." From the announcement video. But whoever the candidate is, THIS. This needs to be repeated, forcefully and w/o apology, all the way to November.

i agree. still, i sometimes wonder if there is anyone in america who doesn't know that already.

ending cash bail - does Harris have a stance on that?

Harris has proposed legislation that would create a three-year $10 million grant program to encourage states to figure out how to find alternatives to their cash bail systems. The legislation is co-sponsored by Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.)...

Sanders, an independent from Vermont, has released a bill that would directly outlaw cash bail in the federal criminal justice system. The legislation, co-sponsored by Gillibrand, would also give states money to reform their bail systems, said Inimai Chettiar, director of the Justice Program at New York University’s Brennan Center for Justice.

“The Harris bill would be helpful, but the Sanders-Gillibrand one is more aggressive,” Chettiar said. “The Harris bill would have an impact, but it’s hard to quantify.”

This article from In These Times looks at both bills and concludes that both are too weak but Sanders's is a little stronger. Both seem to be based on providing funds to states for bail reform but Sanders's requires states to actually show reductions in their incarcerated populations in order to qualify for funds, would withdraw funds from states that do not pursue reforms within three years, and does not rely on predictive algorithms to decide whether people should stay in jail.

fortunately we have more than one option this time

The large primary field this time - heavily populated with much more appealing candidates - will weed him out relatively quickly. The only real question is who his cult will blame for his flameout this time.

xxp Treeship right but it's not about persuading ppl, it's about making the accusation directly and putting GOP back on their heels with it

can we stop with the "cult" thing?

More appealing based on what criteria?

Xp

Also yeah i agree with you hadrian re trump

Can't imagine why the leftmost mainstream pol enjoys popular support. Weird coincidence!

"...artificial intelligence and robotics must benefit the needs of workers, not just corporate America and those who own that technology": Bernie inching towards fully automated luxury communism

The large primary field this time - heavily populated with much more appealing candidates - will weed him out relatively quickly.

bookmarking this for future reference

"I'm not Trump" did not work for HRC

tell ppl what yer gonna do to save them

unfortunately the Electoral College is indifferent to what Sotosyn is "interested" in

*puts chin thoughtfully under fist*

really hope Klobuchar just turned to the moderator and farted in response to that stupid fucking question

*pushes glasses up nose*

actually uh you uh you turn away from someone to uh actually fart at them

/fart checker

I heard Buttigieg on the radio and after spending a few weeks privately laughing to myself about his name I was really impressed when I finally heard him talk. I hope he doesn't get sidelined and left out of the debates.

really wish I had checked Politifart before posting :(

Based entirely on that agenda (which is what has been presented to base first takes off) this does look like another helping of "if we can just fix the economy then race relations should just sort themselves out" - this didn't work so well in 2016, I really can't see it going anywhere in 2020.

What would you do to repair race relations in America that is not enumerated in Bernie’s platform?

And which other candidate has better solutions in this area?

I was going to post this story published a couple days ago. It's not a surprise, though, cuz we talked about it exhaustively at the time. No doubt he'll do better this time.

Recent polling, inasmuch as it can be trusted, suggests he may have already closed that gap

Criminal justice reform, gender pay equity, and the DREAM act are not purely economic issues.

Sure, but he demonstrated little interest last time in changing his approach for the sake of the audience. Again, if he's the nominee I'll vote for him, but he's not whom I'm looking at most closely this time.

it's not him I object to as much as his idiot BernieBro base that might still not vote for the Dem candidate in 2020.

do we need to go over the stats again

Lol extraordinary

some 'mainstream Dems' are as deluded as Trumpists, see above

Oh man pwned

IT'S OFFICIAL DAD IS RUNNING pic.twitter.com/eisSCAJgdt

— Secular Talk (@KyleKulinski) February 19, 2019

I just got one of those personalized Bernie canvassing texts messages. SIgh.

crossover content with the 'itt: pictures of dinosaurs gazing haplessly at the arriving meteor' thread

https://i.redd.it/axz60fb8nih21.jpg

What's missing from that pic is Bernie's baggage.

burned off in the upper atmosphere of a resurgent american left iirc

The point in the WaPo article about the likelihood of actually enacting that agenda even if Sanders became President, given the realities of having to work with Congress, is the issue that would probably most concern me tbh.

if I were Bernie, I'd concentrate less on his record, less on Trump, and more on the idea of reshaping the presidency itself, acting as a sort of "activist president" interested in activating citizens to help pressure existing power structures/institutions into necessary change, inviting people to take a more participatory role. In other words exactly what O ended up not doing with the base who were excited about him.

Because the institutional obstacles do exist and no single candidate can fix them without pretty much completely reorienting a whole lot of peoples' relationships to politics and their representatives

The point in the WaPo article about the likelihood of actually enacting that agenda even if Sanders became President, given the realities of having to work with Congress, is the issue that would probably most concern me tbh.

― silent as a seashell Julia (Sund4r), Tuesday, 19 February 2019 16:02 (six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

vs candidate x, whose name is....?

Could everyone who believes what presidential candidates say they are "going to do" is literally linked to reality please move to the kids' table, where there will be party favors and Jell-O.

what flavour

it's not him I object to as much as his idiot BernieBro base that might still not vote for the Dem candidate in 2020.

― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Tuesday, February 19, 2019 9:54 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the ignorance needed to write something like this is frankly astounding, considering the relationship “our side” is supposed to have with facts

vs candidate x, whose name is....?

Every candidate faces those obstacles but if electing Sanders results in similar policies that you would get from Biden or Klobuchar, what is there to get excited about?

It’s politics baby what need have we of facts

Every candidate faces those obstacles but if electing Sanders results in similar policies that you would get from Biden or Klobuchar, what is there to get excited about?

why even bother engaging in politics at all then really

A sanders or warren victory would, at the very least, send a different kind of message about the american people want than a harris or gillibrand victory. Transformative progressive policies aren’f just parts of sanders’ platform—that’s the core of what he represents as a politica figure.

Estimates from multiple surveys estimate between 6-12% of people who voted Bernie in the Primary voted for Trump but go on, bestow your facts upon me k3ller