Come anticipate animated Miles Morales in SPIDER-MAN: INTO THE SPIDER-VERSE with me

well, like i said, shoehorned

it's minor though

and it’s a huge point at the climax that Miles does indeed learn to say I love you to his dad

you’re gonna be in trouble when yr kids are 13 if you’re so “WON’T SOMEONE THINK OF THE FATHERS???!” already, at a rad cartoon

haha no no sorry, I'm saying it was all unnecessary. there was nothing that needed fixing in their relationship. but in a movie script something always has to Get Fixed in order for the hero to realise their true potential etc

Well, a case could be made that his relationship with his father *is* good, but it's the imposition of spider-problems that, for the first time and for a few different reasons, cuts off the line of communication in a healthy relationship. The movie could be seen as his (Miles) struggle to retain his identity when fate is forcing him to be someone he's not. He spends the entire time more or less getting Spider-splained, right up until that scene when he is literally tied and gagged, and it's only the final ignominy of being unable (literally, not figuratively) to speak with his dad that forces him to become his own Spider-man. That is, a Spider-man that above all else wants to keep it *real* - with Brooklyn, tagging, his school, his cool uncle, a dad who is spider-man dubious - while fighting against the forces trying to make it unreal (superpowers).

Dads are bad
Kites are fun
This derail is dumb
I want gum

How is it a derail? I'm saying it's not a flaw of the film, which was even better the second time, but a further take on a central theme.

don't mean you specifically, was talking about the "daddy theme" derail before yours

i was speaking to the point of this being a "perfect movie" and explained why i think it isn't! maybe i should have started a new thread..

I vote perfect.

Or at least as good as Paddington 2.

checks out

Wait, Paddington 2 was good?

Very good tbh

And I have v little patience for kiddie shit

paddington 2 and paddington 1 are both great.

Yeah, they really are.

Paddington 1 is v good, Paddington 2 is perfect

Loved both movies but I found the end of P2 really stressful (not including the prison dance sequence). It was like the Passion of Paddington! I needed another five minutes of toothbrush jokes or something to bring me down from the ceiling.

finally got around to seeing this and yeah it's fucking magical, loved everything about it, every frame is bursting with invention and it nails the heart of every single one of the spider-men (and spider-gwen!) it puts onscreen

otm

oscar isaac was spider-man 2099?!?

Paddington 2 was indeed good

Oscar is essentially a cameo after the credits.

exactly!

You people are a bunch of worthless pieces of shit for not emotionally preparing me to see "Spiderman: Into the Spider-Verse."

A MOTHER FUCKING THREAD

— amber ruffin (@ambermruffin) February 8, 2019

Idly browsing some article about Gerard Way after watching Umbrella Academy on Netflix, and it turns out that the dude also created Peni Parker. o_O

(iow MCR continues to be the most important band in the world.)

sorry i guess this was prob known to comics fans - i just thought it was cool.

I didn't know - if asked I would've guessed that he was DC exclusive, what with him curating the 'new Vertigo' imprint for them.

holy shit how amazing is this

:)

t/s: this or isle of dogs. i can't decide tbh

uh

sorry i hate it when people do that but seriously

Paddington 1 is v good, Paddington 2 is perfect

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marginally prefer 1 but both are 10/10

Spider-Verse > Paddington 1 > Paddington 2 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Isle of Dogs

unfair on isle of dogs but otherwise yes correct perhaps

anyway back on topic this movie absolutely killed on every level possible

Post Malone was unnecessary and the quote at the end was fucking repugnant, but otherwise yes

watched it again last night, enjoyed it even more the second time around - so much incredible physical comedy in this, from big broad strokes like miles getting pigeons stuck to his hands as he careens around the outside of the school and the ‘kid dressed as spider-man dragging a homeless corpse’ train sequence to the little things like the ‘BAGEL!’ sound effect and the aforementioned spider-ham smashing a plate over his own head moment that is so fucking funny

they do such a great job of making the prowler of all people, a solid c-lister at best in the comics, actually scary too

it’s pretty much perfect

Post Malone was unnecessary

post malone is always unnecessary

eh, the guy just died. I don't think a dumb quote is "repugnant" (and I'm well aware of Stan's crimes)

the guy in the next slide just died too

fuck, post malone is dead? rip big man

posthumous malone

I have a much larger Post Malone tolerance than most of ILX but I don’t think it’s overstating things to say “Sunflower” is not only his best song, but is a legitimately good song regardless of whether you like dude or not.

" the quote at the end was fucking repugnant" how so?

i just pre-ordered the blu-ray of this and noticed that it will include an 'ALL NEW MINI-MOVIE “Spider-Ham: Caught In A Ham”' which has basically made my year

This is a very good film but the pacing has all the flaws that come with an origin story, plus having to accomodate a pretty huge supporting cast. The act structure seemed pretty uneven and I would gladly pay extra for less of the dayglo Akira climax battle, especially the gratuitous drubbing our hero apparently has to take at the hands of Kingpin so we can be reminded that Spider-Man gets back up.

Loved Doc Ock, not enough Spider-Ham, and what sort of bad guys are running around in Peni Parker's world if SP//dr is rendered combat ineffective so easily?

can you explain what you mean by an uneven act structure? it seemed evenly tuned to me but maybe there are screenwriting nuances i didn't get

this movie looks incredible and rules so hard. as corny as it is, the twin themes of "the greatest responsibility is to yourself" and "anyone can be spiderman" really got me.

"dayglo Akira climax" is my new favourite w33d strain

On rewatch it makes me want to fast forward through the beginning and get to the middle 50 minutes or so, and then I find other stuff to do during the final battle. TBH, this is true of tons of movies, many of them good, and origin stories almost always have this problem.

Raimi's first Spider-Man movie cheated a little bit by having Peter Parker get into an extremely low-stakes fight early on, just to show what his powers could do even without mastery; this one takes the more realistic (ha!) approach of having Miles suck at spider-powers until we're nearly at the end.