"oh you don't get me I'm the end of the union": lol brexit is how we're all gonna die

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I’m sure Rowling will weigh in at some point.

Leaghaidh am brón an t-anam bochd (dowd), Monday, 18 February 2019 11:33 (seven years ago)

If all they ever achieve is to persuade Eddie Izzard to quit the Labour Party then they will have done a great thing. Fingers crossed.

Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Monday, 18 February 2019 11:38 (seven years ago)

'cho chang was trans! also i support chuka umunna in his fight against creeping stalinism in the labour party' xp

“Emotional Interest Underwear” (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 18 February 2019 11:38 (seven years ago)

Berger is transparently there so that news can say "have left over concerns about Jeremy Corbyn and anti-semitism", but that's how things work, and the Labour Party have passed quite a few off-ramps on this road.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 18 February 2019 11:39 (seven years ago)

who is gordon maloney? CLP secretary ?

||||||||, Monday, 18 February 2019 11:40 (seven years ago)

or is he some random doing a venezuela but

||||||||, Monday, 18 February 2019 11:41 (seven years ago)

It is literally only 2 weeks since Streatham Labour narrowly voted in a particularly vicious fight, to change from a GC model to an AMM model for selecting our MP candidates. So this does seem a bit of a "you can't deselect me, I quit!" move on Chuka's part.

Einstürzende NEU!bauten (Branwell with an N), Monday, 18 February 2019 11:42 (seven years ago)

Chuka Umunna also defected from UK garage for "soulful house", when the MCs started to get involved, and that is all you need to know about him imho

— Dan Hancox (@danhancox) February 18, 2019

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 18 February 2019 11:44 (seven years ago)

didn't Chuka once complain about vile w/c scum ruining some club he went to ?

calzino, Monday, 18 February 2019 11:48 (seven years ago)

Labour sources saying the seven should fight by-elections but softer words from Corbyn for @lucianaberger who has suffered horrific anti-Semitic abuse: “I'm saddened Luciana has resigned from the Party. I would like to thank her for her campaigning on mental health in particular”

— Beth Rigby (@BethRigby) February 18, 2019

xyzzzz__, Monday, 18 February 2019 11:52 (seven years ago)

Agree she didn't get the support - although I would respect her more if she had stood down over this single issue on her own (or others who felt like this) instead of standing around with the likes of Mike Gapes.

I think leaving in a group means she’s not a singular focal point for harassment. Gapes I am largely scornful or but he is an MP for a seat with lots of Jewish voters, so I do feel his sincerity on this...

...is what I would say if he didn’t travel to Saudi Arabia on a fully funded fact finding mission not even a year ago.

gyac, Monday, 18 February 2019 11:52 (seven years ago)

well that's it you have people leaving because of left-wing intellectuals lol.

It could be perhaps more painful for her - but she should have left and fought a by-election and made AS an issue.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 18 February 2019 11:57 (seven years ago)

honestly I completely understand why she didn’t, the amount of abuse she gets is completely disgusting.

gyac, Monday, 18 February 2019 12:01 (seven years ago)

Gavin Shuker is also anti-abortion rights: for a time he was on the “pro-life” APPG, & he voted to allow dodgy religious groups to access to people seeking abortion in order to provide ‘counselling’ https://t.co/j76w35FzrL pic.twitter.com/TvZTEv2iji

— molly smith (@pastachips) February 18, 2019

gyac, Monday, 18 February 2019 12:02 (seven years ago)

member of parliament for the gay cure too iirc

||||||||, Monday, 18 February 2019 12:05 (seven years ago)

basically was a right wing tory in all but party membership.

calzino, Monday, 18 February 2019 12:07 (seven years ago)

it can both be true that berger has been treated appallingly and is a bad local MP who does not represent the CLP (idk the details so correct me if I'm wrong)

ogmor, Monday, 18 February 2019 12:11 (seven years ago)

ya you can dive and it still be a penalty

||||||||, Monday, 18 February 2019 12:13 (seven years ago)

TBH I think this is a good thing, better that they honestly split and form a pressure group than continue carping from the sidelines (Berger is I think a special case here).

It does make things more difficult for Labour in the first place because they're drifting further and further behind the Tories in numbers, but things are completely messed up right across the board there.

Do any of these MPs represent Labour-Tory marginals?

Matt DC, Monday, 18 February 2019 12:16 (seven years ago)

Also if no MPs leave the Tory Party then these guys have been played.

Matt DC, Monday, 18 February 2019 12:17 (seven years ago)

xp Angela Smith does.

gyac, Monday, 18 February 2019 12:18 (seven years ago)

I guess the only reason they haven't joined Lib-Dems is that the Lib-Dem brand is so toxic following the coalition, but can't imagine there's any huge ideological difference between them.

Dan Worsley, Monday, 18 February 2019 12:20 (seven years ago)

why align yourself with a toxic brand when you can make a new toxic brand all of your own

“Emotional Interest Underwear” (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 18 February 2019 12:23 (seven years ago)

I don't think "rebel" Soubz will walk, although their brand of empty posturing + not actually representing anything at all is just perfect for her.

calzino, Monday, 18 February 2019 12:27 (seven years ago)

did carswell and reckless resign their seats ?

||||||||, Monday, 18 February 2019 12:28 (seven years ago)

I’m reminded of my favourite crap MP, the previous member for Islington North.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_O%27Halloran_(British_politician)

gyac, Monday, 18 February 2019 12:29 (seven years ago)

I thought these lot were such staunch democrats too. the party policy should reflect the membership... but you won’t resign your seat to seek a fresh mandate ? 🤭

||||||||, Monday, 18 February 2019 12:37 (seven years ago)

it's almost like they're i dunno naked careerists in hock to corporate interests or something

“Emotional Interest Underwear” (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 18 February 2019 12:38 (seven years ago)

It has been a great privilege and honour to serve my constituents for 27 years, I intend to continue to represent them as a member of the new Independent Group of Members of Parliament

Cheers, Mike, that's big of you.

Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Monday, 18 February 2019 12:45 (seven years ago)

Carswell and Reckless both resigned and got re-elected, yeah.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 18 February 2019 12:48 (seven years ago)

Angela Smith's the only one of the seven in a marginal.

nashwan, Monday, 18 February 2019 12:49 (seven years ago)

they can’t fight a by election because they don’t stand for anything.

||||||||, Monday, 18 February 2019 12:51 (seven years ago)

Is it true that they don't stand for anything? Other than opposing Brexit, it's more likely they're keeping quiet about what they stand for because they know it will be unpopular.

Matt DC, Monday, 18 February 2019 12:53 (seven years ago)

Carswell and Reckless both resigned and got re-elected, yeah.

― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 18 February 2019 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This is not quite what's happening here.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 18 February 2019 12:53 (seven years ago)

'Soubz' has gone quiet, but I'm sure will hear from her by the end of the day.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 18 February 2019 12:55 (seven years ago)

yeah sorry you’re right matt- they stand for a politics that’s in retreat.

||||||||, Monday, 18 February 2019 12:56 (seven years ago)

If the thing about them not being legally a political party, so they don’t need to name their donors, is true, it’s hilarious.

ShariVari, Monday, 18 February 2019 12:57 (seven years ago)

Blairism. That's what they stand for. Judging by what they've put out so far.

Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Monday, 18 February 2019 12:58 (seven years ago)

They’re giving a whole bunch of reasons for leaving and if it had been me, I wouldn’t have put in “Corbyn hates the left” and “the machine left have taken over” in with an actual issue of principle like opposing anti Semitism in the party. Makes some of these look...opportunistic and insincere.

gyac, Monday, 18 February 2019 13:02 (seven years ago)

Angela Smith, attempting to discuss race, just referred to “being black or a funny kind of tin...from the BME community” before giving up her attempt at speaking conceptually. I think she was going to say tinge. The woman’s a fuckwit. #laboursplit #PoliticsLive

— Tim Brannigan (@tim_brannigan) February 18, 2019

ShariVari, Monday, 18 February 2019 13:12 (seven years ago)

ya you can dive and it still be a penalty

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ɪmˈpəʊzɪŋ (darraghmac), Monday, 18 February 2019 13:13 (seven years ago)

“lord sugar has challenged the apprentices to launch a new political party” pic.twitter.com/dgZP7AJhoY

— edit (@multiplebears) February 18, 2019

suzy, Monday, 18 February 2019 13:14 (seven years ago)

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“Emotional Interest Underwear” (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 18 February 2019 13:16 (seven years ago)

fs at that angela smith thing. not even half a day old this group...

||||||||, Monday, 18 February 2019 13:18 (seven years ago)

Ah Angela Smith...not that long since she was standing g up in the House asking the PM if EU citizens would continue to receive benefits after Brexit.

gyac, Monday, 18 February 2019 13:21 (seven years ago)

dunno why we're surprised that the mp for penistone would act like a dick tbh

“Emotional Interest Underwear” (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 18 February 2019 13:23 (seven years ago)

Deservedly getting rinsed.

gyac, Monday, 18 February 2019 13:24 (seven years ago)

I'm pretty confused about the timing. six weeks before the Brexit deadline?

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 18 February 2019 13:26 (seven years ago)

these guys are skilled political operators, i'm sure their reasoning is evidence-based and sound, just like their policies

(*policy details tbc something something subs fill this in later thx)

“Emotional Interest Underwear” (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 18 February 2019 13:30 (seven years ago)

will Angela Smith be talking about half-caste or those coloured West Indian folk there? Lol even committed racists don't even use that kind of speak any more.

calzino, Monday, 18 February 2019 13:32 (seven years ago)


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