2020 Democratic presidential primary

and deadly

while not including a single black person in their demo

there are literally four people there. thats not the demo

Though to be fair I stopped counting after 2 and approximated after that, felt close enough

is it not possible that her task and priorities as a prosecutor in a state once would be different than her task and priorities as the president of the united states and if u concede this (u should) then isnt this moot

No, no, her entire purpose as president will be to lock more black and brown people in prison, chortling with malevolent glee as she does so - she will literally be nullifying jury acquittals from the Oval Office and rounding people up on the streets in order to pack the prisons, which is her entire raison d'etre as a human and the sole reason she is running for president, because this is 100% a thing presidents get to do. She has been told.

as always i take what i read on us ilx with a pinch of salt, but i aint discounting that neither

Would you also say then that her record as state AG should not be counted among her qualifications and experience as a Presidential candidate?

yeah but not as if it had been a trial run for president, maybe.

No, no, her entire purpose as president will be to lock more black and brown people in prison, chortling with malevolent glee as she does so - she will literally be nullifying jury acquittals from the Oval Office and rounding people up on the streets in order to pack the prisons, which is her entire raison d'etre as a human and the sole reason she is running for president, because this is 100% a thing presidents get to do. She has been told.

― grawlix (unperson), Saturday, February 16, 2019 2:38 PM (fourteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

exactly. that was what i was implying when i said this

I personally have nothing against harris and recognize she had progressive achievements as a prosecutor too. But you can’t just wish away the fact that this is a sticking point for many. Campaign promises are great but they’re more fickle than your background, which shows what your peiorities have been over time.

To Harris’s credit, she seems to be addressing these concerns head on and talking about these issues in a comprehensive way. It wasn’t her who tweeted that trash photo.

― Trϵϵship, Saturday, February 16, 2019 1:07 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Her record as AG should be examined within the context of her position as the state's chief law enforcement official, with no latitude in how the law is written, and limited latitude in its interpretation. Where she had the widest discretion was in her choice of where to focus the efforts of her staff, and even then, as an elected official, much of her agenda would be set by the pressure of responding to public concerns, which are mostly media-driven.

Would you also say then that her record as state AG should not be counted among her qualifications and experience as a Presidential candidate?

The parts that are relevant, sure. I would say that the relevant parts would include the kind of subordinates she picked (shows how she'd handle choosing a cabinet), and causes she espoused as an AG that are likely to map over to presidential responsibilities. Criminal prosecutions are not in that category IMO. Though it might indicate what kind of AG she would pick. And that would therefore be a good question for a reporter or a debate moderator to ask her - who would you pick as your attorney general and why?

xp with Aimless

if this was october 2020 and she was the candidate i would probably be irritated by leftists pushing this point. but it's not. the decision now is not "would harris be a good president" it's "is she the best candidate to represent my views, as a voter"

I feel strongly that she should also tell the American people what her favorite Wu-Tang Clan album is.

it's still liquid swords

Cuban Linx tho...

a bernie announcement video is in production, i repeat, an announcement video in production featuring bernie sanders has been reportedly announced, i repeat

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) has recorded a video announcing his 2020 presidential campaign, according to Politico.

The report cited “two people familiar with the spot.”

It’s unknown when Sanders plans to release the video, but the Vermont senator has reportedly been looking to fill top campaign staff positions lately.

A Sanders campaign would be another addition to the crowded pool of Democratic candidates, which includes fellow senators Cory Booker (D-NJ), Kamala Harris (D-CA), Elizabeth Warren (D-MA), and Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY).

After riding that exhilarating wave in 2016 was there really any doubt he'd want to take another crack at it? He'll bring the same strengths and weaknesses as last time around, but with a stronger field forming than when it was just him vs. Hillary. I welcome his participation as the most unapologetically left-leaning candidate running.

After riding that exhilarating wave in 2016 was there really any doubt he'd want to take another crack at it?

I doubted it and I'm surprised he's doing it! Shows what I know.

if this was october 2020 and she was the candidate i would probably be irritated by leftists pushing this point. but it's not. the decision now is not "would harris be a good president" it's "is she the best candidate to represent my views, as a voter"

― Trϵϵship, Saturday, 16 February 2019 19:59 (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

its always the question

If Bernie wants another crack at it, I don't see why Biden wouldn't. I always thought it would be either both or neither.

i still like warren, but i'm a bit skeptical of how much she uses her golden retriever for social media points. and i am skeptical because i do that

You're reading too much strategy into it. Do you know anyone else who owns a Golden Retriever? They're ALL like that.

what kind of hot sauce does her golden retriever buy

bailey probably likes cholula or one of the really vinegary ones that isn't too spicy

pathetic

i just dogs are drawn to stuff that tastes vinegary. also, you have to remember he is a new englander.

if you people think I'm voting for bailey in 2020 you are out of your minds

Bailey >>> Biden

F. Lee Bailey 2020

if you own a cute dog you are legally obligated to post cute pictures of it all the damn time. that's what i do and i will never stop

otm

yeah the world is horrible enough let's not gate-keep videos of cute pets

can we back up a million posts and could someone explain to me why an innocuous pic of Kamala Harris eating lunch is a big deal?

can we back up a million posts and could someone explain to me why an innocuous pic of Kamala Harris eating lunch is a big deal?

Because Kamala Harris is a bigfakephonylyingnarcsnitchcop and so a photo of her holding a food product identified with (some members of) her ethnic group must be a cynical attempt to pander to that group, and not at all an indication that she has culinary taste preferences, like a human. So the photo begins the process of her unmasking, and will be the first step in pushing her out of the way so Bernie can surge in and capture the African-American female vote that is rightfully his.

lunch is complicated

my mind is boggling at people claiming Harris isn't african american because she's half Jamaican, as though black people just sprung out of the soil in Jamaica organically

You wanna have this conversation? OK, let's have it.

Poor and working class Black voters need TANGIBLE platform positions from candidates who want their votes.

Not hip-hop playlists.

Not hot sauce in my bag swag.

TANGIBLES.

The fact your leading with those says a lot. https://t.co/Z1TaAKIa5h

— Torraine Walker (@TorraineWalker) February 17, 2019

is it not possible that her task and priorities as a prosecutor in a state once would be different than her task and priorities as the president of the united states and if u concede this (u should) then isnt this moot

― ɪmˈpəʊzɪŋ (darraghmac), Saturday, February 16, 2019 2:28 PM (eight hours ago)

the united states as a whole is a lot more conservative than california, so let's not take this line of thinking too far. it does seem as though she's gotten better at least at saying the right things, and I'm cautiously optimistic about her, given it looks like she's a frontrunner

The parts that are relevant, sure. I would say that the relevant parts would include the kind of subordinates she picked (shows how she'd handle choosing a cabinet), and causes she espoused as an AG that are likely to map over to presidential responsibilities. Criminal prosecutions are not in that category IMO. Though it might indicate what kind of AG she would pick. And that would therefore be a good question for a reporter or a debate moderator to ask her - who would you pick as your attorney general and why?

this is actually exactly why her record is relevant. the topic of criminal prosecutions is something I am in fact interested in and would hope others are as well

is there good evidence to suggest she is the front runner?

just kind of a gut feeling tbh, not really any meaningful polling at this stage

canniest messaging + seems to have pretty strong Dem institutional backing + already getting endorsements + seems to be adept at smoothing over potential issues rather than skidding into them a la Warren

I think she’s only gotten endorsements from people who serve in California. Similarly Warren got the Joe Kennedy III endorsement

Biden is the front-runner right now in polls that include people who haven't declared.

Again, meaningless till he opens his mouth. Name recognition plus O nostalgia.

Harris is the frontrunner according to betting markets. And we all know they are never wrong.

Yeah, everything is meaningless now I'm just saying he's currently the technical frontrunner.

my mind is boggling at people claiming Harris isn't african american because she's half Jamaican, as though black people just sprung out of the soil in Jamaica organically

did half of her spring organically out of the soil in America tho

I just feel like people forget her South Asian heritage. Threatening to lock you up for skipping school - that doesn't come from nowhere.

only just saw the breakfast club thing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kh_wQUjeaTk

damn, more dislikes than likes, not seen that before. reading those comments too, the breakfast club audience not keen at all

I wouldn't read too much into that or believe that it's the breakfast club audience/any normal group of people commenting.