2020 Democratic presidential primary

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xp her record is mixed enough that if criminal justice reform is your main issue, she wouldn’t be your candidate.

I personally have nothing against harris and recognize she had progressive achievements as a prosecutor too. But you can’t just wish away the fact that this is a sticking point for many. Campaign promises are great but they’re more fickle than your background, which shows what your peiorities have been over time.

To Harris’s credit, she seems to be addressing these concerns head on and talking about these issues in a comprehensive way. It wasn’t her who tweeted that trash photo.

Trϵϵship, Saturday, 16 February 2019 18:07 (seven years ago)

https://www.latimes.com/local/political/la-me-ff-federal-judges-order-state-to-release-more-prisoners-20141114-story.html

Most of those prisoners now work as groundskeepers, janitors and in prison kitchens, with wages that range from 8 cents to 37 cents per hour. Lawyers for Attorney General Kamala Harris had argued in court that if forced to release these inmates early, prisons would lose an important labor pool.

This isn’t evidence she is evil, but it does show that her priority, at this point in her career, was not helping get non violent offenders back on their feet.

Trϵϵship, Saturday, 16 February 2019 18:09 (seven years ago)

Joe Biden is the Democrats' best chance to beat Trump in 2020. Period.

Ashley Pratte is a political commentator and communications strategist who previously served as director of media relations and public affairs at the American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC) and the director of media relations and consultant for Better For America. She currently serves on the Board of Republican Women for Progress.

grawlix (unperson), Saturday, 16 February 2019 18:56 (seven years ago)

I will be shocked if Biden's support doesn't tank the moment he opens his mouth in a debate (assuming he actually runs)

bhad bundy (Simon H.), Saturday, 16 February 2019 18:59 (seven years ago)

Biden has no support among non-journalists. Two previous campaigns have proven this to the satisfaction of everyone but the DC press corps.

grawlix (unperson), Saturday, 16 February 2019 19:03 (seven years ago)

No surprise that a conservative commentator, recently prominent in ALEC (a Koch Bros. Production), would be touting Biden as the only viable Democrat. The Kochs have zero love for Trump. They correctly see him as a non-ideological, pure opportunist and that is intolerable to them as simon-pure Randian ideologues. They also know that mounting a challenge to Trump from within the GOP would crash and burn dismally unless a large scale political earthquake happens in the next year. Same goes for mounting a third party challenge. So, with Democrats shifting left, they'd naturally see Biden as the most palatable of the alternatives they could reasonably hope for.

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 16 February 2019 19:19 (seven years ago)

if you think there's something wrong with Kamala Harris being photographed a bottle of with Texas Pete you're fucking ridiculous

iirc the saddest thing about Hillary carrying hot sauce in her bag was that she was carrying a bottle of Ninja Squirrel Sriracha in her bag

⅋ (crüt), Saturday, 16 February 2019 19:24 (seven years ago)

Schultz is currently on a book tour, and we should all ignore him completely unless he continues his "campaign" past the end of the promotional cycle for said book.

steven, soda jerk (sic), Saturday, 16 February 2019 19:27 (seven years ago)

el tomboto u are neglecting our movie thread pls come back

trís, a mhic- Campaign promises are great but they’re more fickle than your background, which shows what your peiorities have been over time.

is it not possible that her task and priorities as a prosecutor in a state once would be different than her task and priorities as the president of the united states and if u concede this (u should) then isnt this moot

ɪmˈpəʊzɪŋ (darraghmac), Saturday, 16 February 2019 19:28 (seven years ago)

He will probably decide not to run and "reluctantly" back Trump for re-election because the Dems just won't back off his taxes, maaaan

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Saturday, 16 February 2019 19:29 (seven years ago)

Xpost

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Saturday, 16 February 2019 19:29 (seven years ago)

I was excited because I had never heard of this Ninja Squirrel sriracha but realize it's because it's a whole foods brand.

Yerac, Saturday, 16 February 2019 19:29 (seven years ago)

also because ninja squirrels are quiet

ɪmˈpəʊzɪŋ (darraghmac), Saturday, 16 February 2019 19:31 (seven years ago)

and deadly

Yerac, Saturday, 16 February 2019 19:32 (seven years ago)

while not including a single black person in their demo

there are literally four people there. thats not the demo

anvil, Saturday, 16 February 2019 19:32 (seven years ago)

Though to be fair I stopped counting after 2 and approximated after that, felt close enough

anvil, Saturday, 16 February 2019 19:33 (seven years ago)

is it not possible that her task and priorities as a prosecutor in a state once would be different than her task and priorities as the president of the united states and if u concede this (u should) then isnt this moot

No, no, her entire purpose as president will be to lock more black and brown people in prison, chortling with malevolent glee as she does so - she will literally be nullifying jury acquittals from the Oval Office and rounding people up on the streets in order to pack the prisons, which is her entire raison d'etre as a human and the sole reason she is running for president, because this is 100% a thing presidents get to do. She has been told.

grawlix (unperson), Saturday, 16 February 2019 19:38 (seven years ago)

as always i take what i read on us ilx with a pinch of salt, but i aint discounting that neither

ɪmˈpəʊzɪŋ (darraghmac), Saturday, 16 February 2019 19:41 (seven years ago)

Would you also say then that her record as state AG should not be counted among her qualifications and experience as a Presidential candidate?

silent as a seashell Julia (Sund4r), Saturday, 16 February 2019 19:46 (seven years ago)

yeah but not as if it had been a trial run for president, maybe.

ɪmˈpəʊzɪŋ (darraghmac), Saturday, 16 February 2019 19:49 (seven years ago)

No, no, her entire purpose as president will be to lock more black and brown people in prison, chortling with malevolent glee as she does so - she will literally be nullifying jury acquittals from the Oval Office and rounding people up on the streets in order to pack the prisons, which is her entire raison d'etre as a human and the sole reason she is running for president, because this is 100% a thing presidents get to do. She has been told.

― grawlix (unperson), Saturday, February 16, 2019 2:38 PM (fourteen minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

exactly. that was what i was implying when i said this

I personally have nothing against harris and recognize she had progressive achievements as a prosecutor too. But you can’t just wish away the fact that this is a sticking point for many. Campaign promises are great but they’re more fickle than your background, which shows what your peiorities have been over time.

To Harris’s credit, she seems to be addressing these concerns head on and talking about these issues in a comprehensive way. It wasn’t her who tweeted that trash photo.

― Trϵϵship, Saturday, February 16, 2019 1:07 PM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Trϵϵship, Saturday, 16 February 2019 19:53 (seven years ago)

Her record as AG should be examined within the context of her position as the state's chief law enforcement official, with no latitude in how the law is written, and limited latitude in its interpretation. Where she had the widest discretion was in her choice of where to focus the efforts of her staff, and even then, as an elected official, much of her agenda would be set by the pressure of responding to public concerns, which are mostly media-driven.

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 16 February 2019 19:57 (seven years ago)

Would you also say then that her record as state AG should not be counted among her qualifications and experience as a Presidential candidate?

The parts that are relevant, sure. I would say that the relevant parts would include the kind of subordinates she picked (shows how she'd handle choosing a cabinet), and causes she espoused as an AG that are likely to map over to presidential responsibilities. Criminal prosecutions are not in that category IMO. Though it might indicate what kind of AG she would pick. And that would therefore be a good question for a reporter or a debate moderator to ask her - who would you pick as your attorney general and why?

xp with Aimless

grawlix (unperson), Saturday, 16 February 2019 19:58 (seven years ago)

if this was october 2020 and she was the candidate i would probably be irritated by leftists pushing this point. but it's not. the decision now is not "would harris be a good president" it's "is she the best candidate to represent my views, as a voter"

Trϵϵship, Saturday, 16 February 2019 19:59 (seven years ago)

I feel strongly that she should also tell the American people what her favorite Wu-Tang Clan album is.

Gunther Gleiben (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 16 February 2019 19:59 (seven years ago)

it's still liquid swords

gbx, Saturday, 16 February 2019 20:04 (seven years ago)

Cuban Linx tho...

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Saturday, 16 February 2019 20:06 (seven years ago)

a bernie announcement video is in production, i repeat, an announcement video in production featuring bernie sanders has been reportedly announced, i repeat

Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) has recorded a video announcing his 2020 presidential campaign, according to Politico.

The report cited “two people familiar with the spot.”

It’s unknown when Sanders plans to release the video, but the Vermont senator has reportedly been looking to fill top campaign staff positions lately.

A Sanders campaign would be another addition to the crowded pool of Democratic candidates, which includes fellow senators Cory Booker (D-NJ), Kamala Harris (D-CA), Elizabeth Warren (D-MA), and Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY).

Karl Malone, Saturday, 16 February 2019 21:00 (seven years ago)

After riding that exhilarating wave in 2016 was there really any doubt he'd want to take another crack at it? He'll bring the same strengths and weaknesses as last time around, but with a stronger field forming than when it was just him vs. Hillary. I welcome his participation as the most unapologetically left-leaning candidate running.

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 16 February 2019 21:12 (seven years ago)

After riding that exhilarating wave in 2016 was there really any doubt he'd want to take another crack at it?

I doubted it and I'm surprised he's doing it! Shows what I know.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 16 February 2019 21:19 (seven years ago)

if this was october 2020 and she was the candidate i would probably be irritated by leftists pushing this point. but it's not. the decision now is not "would harris be a good president" it's "is she the best candidate to represent my views, as a voter"

― Trϵϵship, Saturday, 16 February 2019 19:59 (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

its always the question

ɪmˈpəʊzɪŋ (darraghmac), Saturday, 16 February 2019 21:33 (seven years ago)

If Bernie wants another crack at it, I don't see why Biden wouldn't. I always thought it would be either both or neither.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 16 February 2019 21:42 (seven years ago)

i still like warren, but i'm a bit skeptical of how much she uses her golden retriever for social media points. and i am skeptical because i do that

Trϵϵship, Saturday, 16 February 2019 21:48 (seven years ago)

You're reading too much strategy into it. Do you know anyone else who owns a Golden Retriever? They're ALL like that.

Johnny Fever, Saturday, 16 February 2019 21:50 (seven years ago)

what kind of hot sauce does her golden retriever buy

bhad bundy (Simon H.), Saturday, 16 February 2019 21:52 (seven years ago)

bailey probably likes cholula or one of the really vinegary ones that isn't too spicy

Trϵϵship, Saturday, 16 February 2019 21:52 (seven years ago)

pathetic

bhad bundy (Simon H.), Saturday, 16 February 2019 21:58 (seven years ago)

i just dogs are drawn to stuff that tastes vinegary. also, you have to remember he is a new englander.

Trϵϵship, Saturday, 16 February 2019 21:59 (seven years ago)

if you people think I'm voting for bailey in 2020 you are out of your minds

brownie, Saturday, 16 February 2019 22:05 (seven years ago)

Bailey >>> Biden

bhad bundy (Simon H.), Saturday, 16 February 2019 22:11 (seven years ago)

F. Lee Bailey 2020

fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Saturday, 16 February 2019 22:14 (seven years ago)

if you own a cute dog you are legally obligated to post cute pictures of it all the damn time. that's what i do and i will never stop

Karl Malone, Saturday, 16 February 2019 22:17 (seven years ago)

otm

ɪmˈpəʊzɪŋ (darraghmac), Saturday, 16 February 2019 22:21 (seven years ago)

yeah the world is horrible enough let's not gate-keep videos of cute pets

Van Horn Street, Saturday, 16 February 2019 22:57 (seven years ago)

can we back up a million posts and could someone explain to me why an innocuous pic of Kamala Harris eating lunch is a big deal?

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 16 February 2019 23:01 (seven years ago)

can we back up a million posts and could someone explain to me why an innocuous pic of Kamala Harris eating lunch is a big deal?

Because Kamala Harris is a bigfakephonylyingnarcsnitchcop and so a photo of her holding a food product identified with (some members of) her ethnic group must be a cynical attempt to pander to that group, and not at all an indication that she has culinary taste preferences, like a human. So the photo begins the process of her unmasking, and will be the first step in pushing her out of the way so Bernie can surge in and capture the African-American female vote that is rightfully his.

grawlix (unperson), Saturday, 16 February 2019 23:27 (seven years ago)

lunch is complicated

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 16 February 2019 23:32 (seven years ago)

my mind is boggling at people claiming Harris isn't african american because she's half Jamaican, as though black people just sprung out of the soil in Jamaica organically

akm, Saturday, 16 February 2019 23:40 (seven years ago)

You wanna have this conversation? OK, let's have it.

Poor and working class Black voters need TANGIBLE platform positions from candidates who want their votes.

Not hip-hop playlists.

Not hot sauce in my bag swag.

TANGIBLES.

The fact your leading with those says a lot. https://t.co/Z1TaAKIa5h

— Torraine Walker (@TorraineWalker) February 17, 2019

I want to change my display name (dan m), Sunday, 17 February 2019 04:19 (seven years ago)

is it not possible that her task and priorities as a prosecutor in a state once would be different than her task and priorities as the president of the united states and if u concede this (u should) then isnt this moot

― ɪmˈpəʊzɪŋ (darraghmac), Saturday, February 16, 2019 2:28 PM (eight hours ago)

the united states as a whole is a lot more conservative than california, so let's not take this line of thinking too far. it does seem as though she's gotten better at least at saying the right things, and I'm cautiously optimistic about her, given it looks like she's a frontrunner

k3vin k., Sunday, 17 February 2019 04:28 (seven years ago)


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