2020 Democratic presidential primary

lol at 'they'. But seriously, there are some 'ally 101' rules being broken by that demonstration.

― Frederik B, Saturday, February 16, 2019 6:07 AM (thirty-six minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

unless there were significantly more than those four ppl at the "demonstration," who honestly gives a shit

I'm confused, whats the deal with this, what standard are we holding these 4 people to?

4 unattributed/unnamed people on a sidewalk in anywheresville, that look to be nowhere near a protest and....we see this? Why do we not see them at the protest itself? I'm not saying these people aren't real, or that they didn't go to the protest, but this is obscure

click the original tweet, read to the end of the thread

You're missing the important stuff about how fried chicken should be eaten, and what the correct condiments are

Thanks, will read the full thread later. I actually generally like twitter (one of the few it seems!), but find it impenetrable and confusing with things like this, especially if there's a longer thread, which is why I'm likely to miss stuff. I realize its a bit lame to come and ask for an explanation here but I often find things difficult to follow there!

Howard Schultz’ challenge to Democrats: Nominate a centrist for president and I’ll abandon my independent campaign https://t.co/UBEaDlBfcK

— The Washington Post (@washingtonpost) February 15, 2019

hey schultz how about you get back to ripping people off for shitty coffee and not paying any tax you absolute cockfarmer

as bad as US politics is, imagine if Fred lived here

Still livid that someone at my work referred to Schultz as "the smartest guy in the race"

i don't think he'll be on the ballot in november

Why not?

i don't think his campaign will get enough momentum and eventually he's going to get tired of being pelted with cabbages everywhere he travels

How much momentum does he really need to play spoiler to the democratic nominee?

it's a long way to Tipperary

20 months!

or something. yall know i can't count.

If the idea is to prevent a Demp president, why would he drop off? Also ego and hubris, no? If Trump wins re-election he can say he prevented a 'far' left' president and saved the country from ruin etc

how much of a difference is his percentage of vote going to make though? and is it that certain he's going to take votes mainly off Democrats? I kind of get wary of this stuff, same with Stein, feel like people win lose votes to "didn't vote" rather than to other candidates

based on optics

omg treeship you're such a lookist

Is there a precedent for a visible "centrist" independent running?

depends how you evaluate Ross Perot

it's a long way to Tipperary

― a Stalin Stale Ale for me, please (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 16 February 2019 15:23 (twenty-nine minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

relative

omg treeship you're such a lookist

― j., Saturday, February 16, 2019 10:45 AM (eleven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i wasn't the one saying their concern for the incarcerated was somehow bad because of optics! the optics people on this thread are other people

another cool thing i noticed about that tweet thread is that it is a new york times reporter essentially making fun of rubes

and the thing they did wrong in this case was support black lives matter

I don't worry about Schultz as a spoiler tbh

Amazed anyone can make it to the end of that thread.

i'm still reading it. i'm surprised that barely any one has suggested that those people were most likely geniuine, not "russian plants." just because these people aren't good at spelling doesn't mean they can't take a stand against the moral abomination of private prisons.

you don't have to live in new york city and be a professional asshole to recognize injustice when you see it.

thats a catchy slogan have you got a product in mind

As a friend, Treesh, I need to advise that you find alternatives to self-harming behaviour.

Treeship, you do realize you're defending four white people who claim to support Black Lives Matter while not including a single black person in their demo, while on the other hand you're calling the black journalist who took a photo of them a 'professional asshole'?

all white people are inherently demonic, sez the new cw

Treeship, you do realize you're defending four white people who claim to support Black Lives Matter while not including a single black person in their demo, while on the other hand you're calling the black journalist who took a photo of them a 'professional asshole'?

― Frederik B, Saturday, 16 February 2019 16:41 (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

capitalises black but not white, self-loathing wite here imo

lol. I do loath myself, but who wouldn't?

I want AOC to pass a bill where they just tax Howard Schultz at 90%.

pass---propose

or tax white self-loathing men

Treeship, you do realize you're defending four white people who claim to support Black Lives Matter while not including a single black person in their demo, while on the other hand you're calling the black journalist who took a photo of them a 'professional asshole'?

― Frederik B, Saturday, 16 February 2019 16:41 (two minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i don't know enough about them to defend them. i just think it's not implausible that they're passionate about criminal justice reform and that's what brought them there. and that doesn't seem worthy of scorn in itself. what they're being mocked for is looking working class. if they were four attractive white college students with well made black lives matter signs it wouldn't be a meme—you see that all the time.

i'm not going to engage further with this. i just think it seems shitty to immediately read bad faith in people who are speaking out about a major civil rights and human rights issue.

If they were genuinely against the moral abomination of private prisons they probably wouldn’t be protesting someone who is spoken out against them.

Also

So one of the ladies in this 'protest' is in the replies to this thread and while Kamala Harris is a bridge to far, she's a massive Tulsi Gabbard stan. Being a 'true leftist' is fun. https://t.co/NE1ujpWtuK

— Centrism Fan Acct 🔹 (@Wilson__Valdez) February 16, 2019

Jfc who cares

It’s not reading them in bad faith to recognize that their concerns aren’t related to private prisons if they are protesting someone who is against private prisons. It’s more of a common sense conclusion type of thing.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius) at 10:42 16 Feb 19

all white people are inherently demonic, sez the new cw

this was per Dr. Yakub's design, study your lessons

Xpost weird to say “who cares” instead of “actually that probably explains a lot”

I’m going to be sad in a year or so when this thread stops being an endless source of entertainment and devolves into something resembling hope

lol I wouldn't count on that

xp her record is mixed enough that if criminal justice reform is your main issue, she wouldn’t be your candidate.

I personally have nothing against harris and recognize she had progressive achievements as a prosecutor too. But you can’t just wish away the fact that this is a sticking point for many. Campaign promises are great but they’re more fickle than your background, which shows what your peiorities have been over time.

To Harris’s credit, she seems to be addressing these concerns head on and talking about these issues in a comprehensive way. It wasn’t her who tweeted that trash photo.

https://www.latimes.com/local/political/la-me-ff-federal-judges-order-state-to-release-more-prisoners-20141114-story.html

Most of those prisoners now work as groundskeepers, janitors and in prison kitchens, with wages that range from 8 cents to 37 cents per hour. Lawyers for Attorney General Kamala Harris had argued in court that if forced to release these inmates early, prisons would lose an important labor pool.

This isn’t evidence she is evil, but it does show that her priority, at this point in her career, was not helping get non violent offenders back on their feet.

Joe Biden is the Democrats' best chance to beat Trump in 2020. Period.

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I will be shocked if Biden's support doesn't tank the moment he opens his mouth in a debate (assuming he actually runs)