"oh you don't get me I'm the end of the union": lol brexit is how we're all gonna die

for now, Britain had the luxury of exploring its identity through celebration rather than adversity

yes, that glorious year. 2012. truly britain before the fall.

the government is really shitting the bed here huh?

here, there, everywhere

https://puckbuddys.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/shining-all-work-and-no-play-makes-jack-a-dull-boy.jpg?w=500

Hopefully a few Bufton Tuftons might have had cardiacs on hearing about this:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47233605

In response to Mr McDonnell's comments, Labour MP Ian Austin posted a picture of the wartime leader on social media.

He tweeted: "Look who takes pride of place on my mantelpiece in Dudley: a real British hero, the greatest ever Briton, the man who motivated Britain to defeat the Nazis and fight not just for our liberty but the world's freedom."

What is this arsehole doing in the Labour Party?

Churchill's grandson calls McDonnell "poundshop Lenin" in pathetically weak retort from ugly tory basdard shocker.

Ian Austin who was dismissed as "hepatitis" on a Tory election pamphlet - stopped clock etc.

when I said Walkers were the worst crisps I had admittedly forgotten about Brannigans

Woah, this is just completely wrong. Ham and pickle Brannigans are maybe the best crisps. Don't know if I can eat them these days, but I don't see them very often anyway.

Big John McDonnell and his comments on Churchill have got the Birthday Club WhatsApp group on OVERDRIVE pic.twitter.com/r1ua33h0C5

— 🤝 Aman 🌹 (@Aman_Sez) February 13, 2019

I’ve changed my mind, Churchill was good now.

It’s so easy just to not say anything, but people do keep telling on themselves.

xp maybe it’s south armaaaagh

― gyac, Wednesday, 13 February 2019 19:15 (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hey ...maybe its south......ur maaaagh

boom

Maybe...

Just maybe...

It’s South Ár Ma

Spanish armagh da.

(fill in the joke yourself)

seeing these Labour Right dregs pretending to know something about history or cherry picking their own self-serving curated version (that fucking cretin Austin can't even get Labour Party history right ffs) and making a complete exhibition of themselves really does the party a good service and reminds one how fit for office these cunts were.

I love it that these fools are clueless and an autodidact like McDonnell would run rings around their flimsy bullshit takes on British history.

McDonnell is incredibly well-read; his FT profile said so and he was photographed reading poetry on the tube the other day (couldn’t see what it was, sadly).

bullshit culture war story ofc and churchill clearly a villain and arsehole and everything in between but can’t help but think saying ‘complicated’ might have been a better way to elude all those nonsense. do yourself some favours big john

hopefully won’t get too “look a squirrel”’d today given impending govt defeat

xp this is true and yet I think McDonnell, being a socialist from a Liverpool Ireland family, would have been fully justified going in studs up with an unapologetic “He was a cunt!”

lmao can u imagine the utter meltdown if a senior labour politician called churchill a cunt. that would be truly delicious

it is the debate this country needs tbh.

“was churchill a cunt?” join me, nicky clarke, as we find out

McD was only giving quick q+a answers to some live online interview wannit? I'm sure he would give a more nuanced take on Churchill if that was what was required - but still call him a cunt as well.

I didn’t ever like Churchill when I learned about him in school, but the culture war shit and insistence that we never ever discuss the evil shit he did do has made me a full time hater.

“Churchill, hero or villain?”
“Neither - cunt.” Was what he should have said.

xxxp I'm sure Nicky Clarke has some trenchant opinions on Churchill's hair but is he really the man to host a phone in debate about such a serious issue?

I was told from an early age by family that he was pure evil. And my irish great grandad came back from Gallipoli minus a big bit of one his legs because of his awesome military thinking - unencumbered by any concerns for the effects of mounted machine guns on soldiers.

I was thinking a live televised truth and reconc panel, hosted by nicky with chris leslie, ian austin and nicholas soames against big john, ross greer MSP and the kid who daubed the statue w paint

reconciliation*

timely input from Viz

https://scontent.fhuy2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/51989689_2242868272441274_2840300317097066496_o.png?_nc_cat=107&_nc_ht=scontent.fhuy2-1.fna&oh=ceef96b9b707cc313746b15c75127ee6&oe=5CEA04B9

They keep mentioning Churchill won a Greatest Briton ever in a poll in 2002 - i.e 16 years ago. Didn't Alan Turing just win a similar poll in 2019? Stick yer Gary Oldmans up yer arse, Churchill is strictly for the Yanks these days.

can't believe there are still snowflakes whining about this inspirational hero who didn't believe Indians were full human beings

Remember that shit about Obama and the Churchill bust, even though his granddad was tortured by the British?

Among the detainees who suffered severe mistreatment was Hussein Onyango Obama, the grandfather of Barack Obama, the former President of the United States. According to his widow, British soldiers forced pins into his fingernails and buttocks and squeezed his testicles between metal rods and two others were castrated.

I think the major WW2 crimes attributed to Churchill on social media today (bombing/killing civilians, starving Bangladeshis) were so much the standard m.o. of the British Empire for centuries, they would happened without him anyway. Not that I'm making up excuses for the cunt. but just saying an Evil Empire is a collaboration with many different parts, and at that time it was the the most expert swelled government of British history that had taken this path, not just that cunt even though the propaganda version of history makes him the focal point. And its domestic population weren't exactly protesting in the streets about fire-bombing or the bangladeshi famine. we're all bad and should feel bad etc...

that sounds v right to me calz

Claiming to be living alone is one of the most common types of benefit fraud – don’t ruin #ValentinesDay by failing to declare your true circumstances https://t.co/tZuNYZ5fer pic.twitter.com/ahutOO6NUy

— DWP Press Office (@dwppressoffice) February 13, 2018

was he not considered to be a cunt at the time though?

The problem now is less him himself because the deeds are done and you can make the kind of argument cal makes, the problem is shite like this:

Boris Johnson: “The problem is not that we were once in charge [of Africa], but that we are not in charge any more...If left to their own devices, the natives would rely on nothing but the instant carbohydrate gratification of the plantain.” https://t.co/B8cG9mPeNg

— Liam Hogan (@Limerick1914) February 14, 2019

xxp
omg!

the electorate must have thought he was bit of a cunt, otherwise there would have been a tory landslide i suppose. the book I'm currently reading said Labour made a better argument of nationalism/patriotism than the tories did, unbelievable as it sounds now!

Now that quote needs to be taken in context - the context is that it ends "The best fate for Africa would be if the old colonial powers, or their citizens, scrambled once again in her direction; on the understanding that this time they will not be asked to feel guilty", and that we should shoot this cunt while he's still around.

It’s a thread with plenty more shite and context :)

Oops, vfp.

"It is not only the Mace and the despatch boxes that we have exported to the Ugandan parliament. With five seats reserved for the disabled, five for 'youth' and 54 for women, it is the most politically correct assembly in the world. I will never forget the expression on the faces of the tribal elders who came to meet us by some jacaranda tree. There they were, beaming with pride in some new Unicef-funded municipal shack, when a Norwegian Unicef girl stepped forward. She was wearing lipstick, earrings, court shoes, and she barked, in all seriousness, 'Where are the women?

'Why are there no women in this group?' she wanted to know, and the poor lads shuffled and scratched their Aids-blotched heads. Almost every dollar of Western aid seems tied to some programme of female emancipation — stamping out clitorectomy, polygamy, bride-price, or whatever. And while some readers may feel vaguely that the African male should not be stampeded into abandoning his ancient prerogatives, one cannot doubt the care — bordering on obsession — with which Western workers pursue their ends."

jesus fuck at that dwp tweet, almost comically evil

Don't forget 2008. The year Labour crashed the economy by not preventing benefits fraud and giving lollipops to the disabled.

all those gov tweets are old, if it's any consolation. not from this year. dunno if dwp etc have changed their innocent smoothie bullshit approach since then. think we went into it before - their mascot was called 'workie' etc.

at least i've yet to see one of the handful going around today that is from 2019.

was he not considered to be a cunt at the time though?

He was generally considered a warmongering strikebreaking gloryhunting hasbeen of a cunt before WWII and then a warmongering strikebreaking gloryhunting cunt thereafter.

... oops, forgot drunk and senile.

The real reason John McDonnell could never praise Winston Churchill is surely his role against the IRA with whom Mr McDonnell associated so closely https://t.co/I4pbPeS5bg

— John Woodcock (@JWoodcockMP) February 13, 2019

You forgot that he fought the Ra!

trenchant contribution from the member of parliament for BAE systems there