2020 Democratic presidential primary

Always a chance that baby was going to be Hitler 2.0 IMO.

my friend in Philly keeps pushing Swalwell (before his recent exposure with Whittaker or whoever the fuck it was). Is there any sort of sense this complete unknown is planning to run? He looks like a thumb and I predict he'd be the Martin O'Malley of the race if he did.

i'd say swalwell has as much of a chance as joe montana

and you never bet against joe montana

Talking babies will be the first to go in my book.

We don't win swing states like New Hampshire or Ohio by only talking to progressives or only talking to workers.

You have to do both. pic.twitter.com/hRXRkB8h2j

— Sherrod Brown (@SherrodBrown) February 12, 2019

some of these guys really need better writers

― bhad bundy (Simon H.), Tuesday, 12 February 2019 04:54 (nine hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

fuckin yikes

yeah it's really not gonna be hard to sort out who the c-listers are I don't think

I would think it requires an insane level of discipline to stay on-message when you're running against a fire hose constantly spewing garbage like Trump. I think Hillary actually didn't do too bad a job of sticking to her own message and not taking his bait, it was more that she did have a lot to sell and didn't seem particularly credible when she tried to sell progressivism. still, one of the things people most remember from the campaign was "basket of deplorables," which represented one of the few times she really did take the bait, and I think it backfired for her spectacularly.

obviously Warren has already demonstrate a pretty poor instinct for refusing to engage, which is why even though she's probably my preference at this point I definitely worry about her chances more than someone like Harris.

Those comments quotes upthread by trump about northam and abortion are fucking psychotic

Americans might like this article. There are some parallels. The traditional center-right parties in both the UK and the US are in the process of thoroughly trashing their reputations for prudence and responsibility, and the parties of the center-left are, rather than re-occupying the vacant (and largely illusory) center, rediscovering their radical roots. But the temptation still is to cede the territory on some very big questions, particularly immigration.

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk/2019/02/labour-cannot-ride-brexit-wave-socialism-it-must-fight-nationalist-right

I particularly liked this:

"It is a typical feature of British political commentary to believe that, somehow, the identitarian commitments of white people in small towns are stronger and more authentic than those of the rootless cosmopolitans of the cities and the professional class. This has never been true. Londoners are just as committed to their cosmopolitanism as nationalist Leave voters are to their little-Englandism. This is a complicating factor for Labour strategists and one reason that holding this electoral coalition together is proving so difficult."

brown wants to right-size medicare to 55 y/os and it is so fucking stupendously stupid i fear i cannot ever take that douchelog serious xp

a pity about Brown cuz he has impressed me every time on the teevee with his cut-this-crap attitude

lol yesterday i fell across an yglesias anti- take on brown's plan. even yggy was like FUK NO.

.@YahooNews reports that when staffers left her office, Sen. Klobuchar would call their new bosses to get offers rescinded https://t.co/lkbtMIl9uK

— Sam Levine (@srl) February 12, 2019

lol she's like a cartoon villain at this point

this must all be very cathartic for her former staffers

or somebody's already got the knives out for her. these stories don't come from thin air

or both can be possible at the same time of course

xpost

meanwhile, some breaking 'extremely kamala harris' news

Kamala Harris claims to have smoked pot in college while listening to Tupac and Snoop.

Tupac's first album came out in 1991.
Snoop's first album came out in 1993.

Kamala Harris graduated college in 1986.

🤔🤔🤔 pic.twitter.com/8BU0h27I12

— all about the Benjamins baby 🎶 (@joshieecs) February 11, 2019

If there is even a grain of truth to the fact she treated staff like second class citizens, it’s a hard pass from me

It’s a weird situation when politicians are lying to say they DID smoke weed.

Arguably, not remembering it clearly might be evidence for the authenticity of her claim.

it's too hard to judge second class treatment from weirdo shaving incident, it sounds way weird as fuck, but it's a bit sui generis.

now, calling a staffer's new employer to get a hiring rescinded isn't "treating as second class," it's some grossly improper interference in someone's career, and if true as presented should end her career imo.

agree that trajectory and timing of this round of klobey reveals seems target-y, but anytime you shave you could put blood in the water. xp

Snoop's first album came out in 1993.

before which no one had ever heard of him

lol thank you

who knew kamala was so deep into west coast rap that she was bumpin snoop at least seven years before his first album, when he was in his mid-teens

Yeah i think i agree Hunt3r. I’m with workers and against bosses who think they are superior to workers and can mistreat them.

maybe she continued smoking weed after college and now she's busted?

What you don’t hear in the transcript is where she catches herself from saying lil pump

she probably thought mentioning Too Short would make her seem old

I don't so much care about if/when she smoked pot as the fact that she was pretty severely anti-legalization as recently as 2014

well, yeah

Yeah. Tbh the fact that she smoked in college but was OK with people going to jail with it is worse than if she was an unchill narc from an early age.

86 West Coast I guess Ice T? "The Batterram" by Toddy T has a powerful anti police state messages

a pity about Brown cuz he has impressed me every time on the teevee with his cut-this-crap attitude

― Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, February 12, 2019 9:42 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

People are fretting about the way AOC talks, but I honestly can't listen to Brown's hoarse, gravelly voice for more than a minute.

Harris also went to law school yo

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/02/veep-amy-klobuchar-leg-shaving-rumor.html

Brown's voice, Sanders' voice, Warren's voice, are all fucking annoying when having to listen to them for any extended period of time. None of them are as bad as the braying idiot who now inhabits the WH though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKn-1LSCqQ4

delusional

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019/02/bill-de-blasio-is-still-thinking-about-a-2020-run

i cannot imagine how many reporters right now are trying to get the shaver on record

btw this is amazing:

A young Klobuchar staffer was sent to explain the senator’s lateness to the Franken staffer.

“I’m supposed to tell you,” she said, with a look of terror on her face, “Senator Klobuchar is late today because I am bad at my job.”

all this stuff is pretty silly but the union filing in the yahoo story seems to suggest real concerns and stuff wrt to keeping wages down

It’s not silly, though. If she’s ordering staff to humilite themselves.

de blasio as delusional as eric holder. I guess everyone feels they may as well run now.

I wouldn’t vote for anyone who treats their employees like that. I loathe people who act that way. Wasn’t going to vote for her anyway though so nbd

meanwhile, some breaking 'extremely kamala harris' news

she doesn't say she listened to Snoop and Tupac while she was smoking weed in college, she laughs at that question and then, turning to answer a different question from one of the other presenters, says she listens to and likes Snoop and Tupac

she probably thought mentioning Too Short would make her seem old

In this piece where she was facing one camera and not being asked overlapping questions by people sitting on opposite sides of her, she reps Too Short and says that Push It was a big jam for her in college, because it was a hit when she was in college

xpost trees yr right, i wasnt really going to vote for her anyway but yeah that stuff is beyond the pale

i just meant that a union filing a grievance and threatening to pull an endorsement of a DFL candidate is serious and not something that ever happens (as opposed to shaving rumors)

lots of fun stats in here

Net favorability rating among Dems/Share of Dems with an opinion of each candidate, per new CNN/SRRS:

Harris +48, 60%
Warren +46, 64%
Castro +20, 36%
Gillibrand +18, 34%
Buttigieg +6, 18%
Gabbard +2, 16%
Schultz -17, 37%https://t.co/0Z1LR5Loiv

— Ariel Edwards-Levy (@aedwardslevy) February 12, 2019

are those all the folks who have officially declared?

btw the local barnes and noble, which as with most barnes and noble locations, has partnered w/ starbucks, was advertising some kind of simulcast meeting/talk with/by Schultz. surely that's violating some campaign finance laws, if he is actually running (even if he hasn't formally declared). i mean, a corporation that's partnered w/ his own business is effectively giving him free, extended nationwide advertising. i'd call that a contribution in kind.

fuck this country. but fuck howard schultz especially.

imagine if jeff bezos was running for prez and amazon offered some kind of bezos livestream with purchase of prime.

it's easy if you try

Among Democrats/likely Democrats it goes Biden-Bernie-Harris-Warren which I'm guessing is pretty much the order of name recognition at this point.