2020 Democratic presidential primary

operativespeak for "I will send flowers when you pass"

Kendzior occasionally makes good point, I'm just tired of her Cassandra routine

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/11/us/kamala-harris-progressive-prosecutor.html

this is a good, even-handed essay (longer and in greater depth than the other piece we discussed last month) that highlights some of my hangups with harris, while also underscoring her undeniable shrewdness as a politician. I’m still on the fence.

She should become warren’s attorney general and prosecute trump

I looked at Warren and Klobuchar's announcement speeches to explain their fundamentally different analysis of what's wrong with America: https://t.co/WqoxC7eLlU

— Paul Waldman (@paulwaldman1) February 11, 2019

Klobuchar honestly seems horrible. Abusive boss pushing a centrist line?

^ snap judgment based on minimal evidence. but who's to say it's wrong?

well, I know more bad things about her than good things at this point, I wouldn't exactly say that's ideal.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/02/11/klobuchar-president-republicans-1159345

Republicans gush over Klobuchar

GOP senators praised the Minnesota Democrat for her deal-cutting ways — even as they worried it could doom her presidential bid.

Some Democrats are “going to be looking for somebody that is actually going to be electable in a general election. And I think it’s a spot she could fill,” said Sen. John Thune (R-S.D.), the GOP whip.

Predictably, a Midwestern republican's idea of a democrat who is "electable" is anyone they think might appeal to Chamber of Commerce and VFW-type Midwestern republicans.

Republicans gush over Klobuchar

this is useful; it ensures i will not consider Klobuchar in the primaries (not that i was inclined to anyway).

well, this will now conclude my tenure as investigative reporter but we were talking at work and a woman i work with was equally as awestruck as i had been about shavegate...

she's like "Oh i have to message XXX she's worked in politics forever" etc etc...she does and her friend confirms the same story said it's been a DC classic for 10 years at least...

so this is the version she said, and she made it sound like this was definitive...

this is in AK's first campaign, they have a really busy day and she has a scheduled daily call...she sends a male staffer out to get her razors (which is not a weird thing to ask in a campaign)...

he gets them, hops in the minivan that's taking them to the next event (AK is getting ready for a call)...anyway he takes them out of the pack and she's like "go on...." and makes him shave her legs in the van

def sounds out of Veep but now it would require three separate ppl w/MN politics backgrounds that don't know each other to have made it up....

still could be bullshit but Occam's Gillette Venus suggests it's true

(apparently it's been known but no one has been willing to go on the record possibly because the ppl who saw or shaved still work for her)

has this been reported anywhere or is it an ilX-clusive

the latter AFAICT

people making jokes about it but not serious reporting

(the tweet upthread that responds to this is someone who worked for mccaskill)

BTW the reporter who confirms the most famous, or should I say infamous Klobuchar story should win a Pulitzer.

Will require lots of leg work. https://t.co/B4Rgmgb207

— Yashar Ali 🐘 (@yashar) February 9, 2019

still could be bullshit but Occam's Gillette Venus suggests it's true

this is all-time. /claps

keep waiting for this story to break so i can do an I TOLD YOU SO

the Harris story in the NYT linked above is solid.

Anybody willing to have their legs dry-shaved by a nervous stranger in a moving vehicle is plenty tough enough to be President. She's got my vote.

^^^ I mean, it sounds so legit.

I'd rather vote for the shaver tbh

Making staffers do weird and embarassing things is a bad look and suggests she doesn’t care about ordinary workers

Say no to hazing

one of the greatest presidents of the 20th century was an infamous hazer

Yeah—LBJ

His legacy was mixed though. Extraordinary progressive achievements + vietnam

when your vietnam is actually vietnam, it definitely leaves a mixed legacy.

I almost admire a man who stole his high school election.

scott walker? no wait, that was college, and he /failed/ to buy it.

If we're going for the LBJ 2020 constituency, I think you have to take Jim Webb out of the deep freeze. Is Sam Nunn still alive?

asked a friend who's a local political reporter of long standing, and he's never heard the Klobuchar shaving story.

I may have missed it but has Biden had a metoo incident yet? no way there isnt one

what makes you say that

Biden was born in 1942 and became a US Senator in 1973. Given the social mores of his generation and the limitless opportunities presented to powerful men who come into contact with a very large number of people seeking his favor, it seems highly likely that he engaged in extra-marital sexual liaisons, but that's very different from non-consensual sexual assault.

what a weird thing to speculate about

xp wow I am so glad I killfiled your constant torrent of sexist garbage, every once in a while I'm on another PC and can see your awful posts and I am so glad they are not usually in my life

I was commenting on anvil's post. I can't see any reason for concluding "no way there isn't" an episode of coercive sex in Biden's past.

He's been accused of being a bit handsy in photo-ops (not George H.W. Bush level groping, just touching more than is strictly necessary) and giving the occasional unsolicited shoulder rub.

i'm convinced that President Klobuchar's bipartisan ways might delay the worst effects of climate change by up to eight days

Depending on how dedicated her staff is they might be able to shave off a few more days.

I am so glad I killfiled your constant torrent of sexist garbage

I'm glad I can contribute my moiety to your happiness, sleeve. Since it gives you so much pleasure, please killfile me on every device on which you view ilx. It's the least I can do.

Depending on how dedicated her staff is they might be able to shave off a few more days.

― ⅋ (crüt), Monday, February 11, 2019 8:01 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

You're getting a slip for that.

I really doubt biden would do well in this field. Not worth worrying about.

Like who knows, but the candidate will definitely be harris or bernie or warren

That sounds true

Remember that it's not just the candidate. It's who the candidate will bring into her or his staff and cabinet. Klobuchar would bring the (shaving) cream of the crop.

if a relative unknown like klobuchar is going to break through they need to have a unique degree of charisma. i don't think that is true of her.

biden has name recognition but i don't see a swell of support for him. also, he has run for president many times and never broken through.

Like who knows, but the candidate will definitely be harris or bernie or warren

― Trϵϵship, Monday, February 11, 2019 8:32 PM (thirty-eight minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

That sounds true

― Norm’s Superego (silby)

it's still early (only 19 months to go!!!) but this seems right

it feels a little scary to be making predictions this far out but yeah, i could easily see it going to any of those three. maybe harris has just a slight edge over the other two.