2020 Democratic presidential primary

I don’t know much about her. Did she say “Trump won’t be dangerous” or something?

I'll be very curious which candidates will step in to defend Ilhan Omar (assuming this remains a controversy)

what did she do?

oh, twitter, israel...she's done similar before she was elected. she's not gonna stop.

lol at c&p-ing kendzior in 2019

Did I miss some memo about Sarah Kendzior not being ok anymore?

Was she ever actually ok

I dunno. I've never followed her on twitter. Just seen selected retweets from other people and she's always seemed a useful part of the conversation, so I can't say.

It’s possible it’s because she was pretty early in sayinh that the Russia stuff was a big deal and as we know that turned out not to be true

Nerdstrom Poindexter wrote this on thread I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE BOTTOM IS • US presidential elections part VIII on board I Love Everything on Aug 31, 2016

There is something reliably machine like about Henwood. I saw the other day that he tweeted something about how Chelsea's friend was taking over her position at the foundation and I guess we were supposed to be bowled over with outrage idk. It's like Doug you can take a day off from Clinton beat.

Nerdstrom Poindexter wrote this on thread I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE BOTTOM IS • US presidential elections part VIII on board I Love Everything on Sep 8, 2016

You're not allowed to criticize Putin anymore. It's just going to upset people who see neoliberalism as enemy #1.

Nerdstrom Poindexter wrote this on thread I've had people say it's a hardening, actually ~ US presidential election 2016 part 9/11 never forget on board I Love Everything on Sep 15, 2016

I'm always amazed when a Nader apologist is willing to go as far as "actually Gore would have invaded Iraq too". A great way to avoid the very simple question "Looking back were the two major candidates really the same?". Maybe a case can be made that the long term goal of Green Party support is still worth that risk but instead you get the cheap denial of "It didn't happen."

Nerdstrom Poindexter wrote this on thread I've had people say it's a hardening, actually ~ US presidential election 2016 part 9/11 never forget on board I Love Everything on Sep 16, 2016

I don't believe the birther stuff will cost him. He's somewhat successfully bullshitted his way out of it so that the media is actually treating it as a debate over "who started it".

Nerdstrom Poindexter wrote this on thread I've had people say it's a hardening, actually ~ US presidential election 2016 part 9/11 never forget on board I Love Everything on Oct 3, 2016

The "basement dweller" thing isn't about actually convincing Sanders die hards to vote for Trumo as much as just suppress potential votes for Hlllary. The only people I've seen view the leaked audio as anything other than sympathetic are right wing creeps and some of the more aggressively idiotic Stein supporters.

Nerdstrom Poindexter wrote this on thread Um, I Think It's Time for a Thread on WikiLeaks on board I Love Everything on Oct 18, 2016

Wikileaks can't be called "objective flow of information ". Aside from the fact that the leaks themselves are a partisan act in support of the white nationalist candidate, WL has promoted individual emails in a grossly misleading out of context way ("taco bowls", implying Hillary used an ear piece in the debate to cheat, intentionally fanned the flames of the "murdered DNC staffer killed by Hillary" conspiracy). Their approach with these particular leaks has been a pretty bottom of the barrel exercise.

Nerdstrom Poindexter wrote this on thread Mourning in America - Trump Year One: November '16 to on board I Love Everything on Nov 16, 2016

Days before the election Henwood was touting that some publishing house was releasing a book of Clinton's Goldman Sachs speeches with (surely obnoxious) forwards written by both him and Assange. I love these guys who literally for months argued that HRC was worse then Trump now are like "here's what the libs should have done to have prevented that obviously worse outcome we are now stuck with". Such pieces of shit who honestly should be apologizing acting so smug now.

Nerdstrom Poindexter wrote this on thread America under Trump - Year One: January 2017 to ... January 2017 on board I Love Everything on Jan 3, 2017

I've seen the figure thrown around w concern from people on left who are annoyed that Russia (or if literally any other reason for Trump winning than "Hillary is bad") is brought up that "50% of Clinton voters think Russia hacked voting machines" which you know when people were saying "rigged primary" for months seems like something you probably shouldn't express concern about.

Nerdstrom Poindexter wrote this on thread America under Trump - Year One: January 2017 to ... January 2017 on board I Love Everything on Jan 3, 2017

Yeah I don't know how anyone is expected to take the "we can't allow discussing any reasons for Trump winning other than Hillary and the neoliberals are bad" position as anything other than childish. The Comey letter in particular had an impact.

Nerdstrom Poindexter wrote this on thread America under Trump - Year One: January 2017 to ... January 2017 on board I Love Everything on Jan 4, 2017

It was only Hillary's fault she lost the general election (no other reasons are allowed I can't accept it) and also at the same time it wasn't Bernie's fault in any way that he lost the primary.

Haha how often in ILX history has someone pulled that move?

looking through all that stuff I forgot I posted like “yeah that’s true, that’s true, oh that’s actually prescient, I wouldn’t say that the same way, that’s still correct probably” etc

Mordfred Shitposter

*takes prescient shit*

Calm down friend

it's cool, keep on keepin on

re: klobuchar, lots of people hold themselves and their teams to high standards and are not assholes.

iirc being a dick to subordinates is a thing people do to affirm to themselves and others that they are important and that their standards are very high.

the leg shaving thing is just wat.

― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Sunday, February 10, 2019 6:26 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I totally agree with you btw I justed put that there to illustrate this guy's views and that he doesn't have any ax to grind against AK

"I will be a moderate voice"

*activate trapdoor*

So I spoke with 31 Democratic strategists about Joe Biden's candidacy.

I was surprised at the skepticism -- frequently deep skepticism in the political community. Plenty of it on record https://t.co/9W5lUxIyVI

— Alex Roarty (@Alex_Roarty) February 11, 2019

Added Jim Manley, longtime Democratic operative: “I’m not convinced Biden is the right way to go at this point in time."

Try again in 2028, Joe!

operativespeak for "I will send flowers when you pass"

Kendzior occasionally makes good point, I'm just tired of her Cassandra routine

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/11/us/kamala-harris-progressive-prosecutor.html

this is a good, even-handed essay (longer and in greater depth than the other piece we discussed last month) that highlights some of my hangups with harris, while also underscoring her undeniable shrewdness as a politician. I’m still on the fence.

She should become warren’s attorney general and prosecute trump

I looked at Warren and Klobuchar's announcement speeches to explain their fundamentally different analysis of what's wrong with America: https://t.co/WqoxC7eLlU

— Paul Waldman (@paulwaldman1) February 11, 2019

Klobuchar honestly seems horrible. Abusive boss pushing a centrist line?

^ snap judgment based on minimal evidence. but who's to say it's wrong?

well, I know more bad things about her than good things at this point, I wouldn't exactly say that's ideal.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/02/11/klobuchar-president-republicans-1159345

Republicans gush over Klobuchar

GOP senators praised the Minnesota Democrat for her deal-cutting ways — even as they worried it could doom her presidential bid.

Some Democrats are “going to be looking for somebody that is actually going to be electable in a general election. And I think it’s a spot she could fill,” said Sen. John Thune (R-S.D.), the GOP whip.

Predictably, a Midwestern republican's idea of a democrat who is "electable" is anyone they think might appeal to Chamber of Commerce and VFW-type Midwestern republicans.

Republicans gush over Klobuchar

this is useful; it ensures i will not consider Klobuchar in the primaries (not that i was inclined to anyway).

well, this will now conclude my tenure as investigative reporter but we were talking at work and a woman i work with was equally as awestruck as i had been about shavegate...

she's like "Oh i have to message XXX she's worked in politics forever" etc etc...she does and her friend confirms the same story said it's been a DC classic for 10 years at least...

so this is the version she said, and she made it sound like this was definitive...

this is in AK's first campaign, they have a really busy day and she has a scheduled daily call...she sends a male staffer out to get her razors (which is not a weird thing to ask in a campaign)...

he gets them, hops in the minivan that's taking them to the next event (AK is getting ready for a call)...anyway he takes them out of the pack and she's like "go on...." and makes him shave her legs in the van

def sounds out of Veep but now it would require three separate ppl w/MN politics backgrounds that don't know each other to have made it up....

still could be bullshit but Occam's Gillette Venus suggests it's true

(apparently it's been known but no one has been willing to go on the record possibly because the ppl who saw or shaved still work for her)

has this been reported anywhere or is it an ilX-clusive

the latter AFAICT

people making jokes about it but not serious reporting

(the tweet upthread that responds to this is someone who worked for mccaskill)

BTW the reporter who confirms the most famous, or should I say infamous Klobuchar story should win a Pulitzer.

Will require lots of leg work. https://t.co/B4Rgmgb207

— Yashar Ali 🐘 (@yashar) February 9, 2019

still could be bullshit but Occam's Gillette Venus suggests it's true

this is all-time. /claps

keep waiting for this story to break so i can do an I TOLD YOU SO

the Harris story in the NYT linked above is solid.

Anybody willing to have their legs dry-shaved by a nervous stranger in a moving vehicle is plenty tough enough to be President. She's got my vote.

^^^ I mean, it sounds so legit.

I'd rather vote for the shaver tbh

Making staffers do weird and embarassing things is a bad look and suggests she doesn’t care about ordinary workers

Say no to hazing

one of the greatest presidents of the 20th century was an infamous hazer

Yeah—LBJ

His legacy was mixed though. Extraordinary progressive achievements + vietnam

when your vietnam is actually vietnam, it definitely leaves a mixed legacy.

I almost admire a man who stole his high school election.

scott walker? no wait, that was college, and he /failed/ to buy it.

If we're going for the LBJ 2020 constituency, I think you have to take Jim Webb out of the deep freeze. Is Sam Nunn still alive?