2020 Democratic presidential primary

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Warren knows what’s up. That announcement speech shouldn’t surprise anyone.

Trϵϵship, Saturday, 9 February 2019 17:23 (seven years ago)

The popular impression of her is stupid. She is a formidable enemt of the GOP, corrupt business interests, and everythinn that makes America a hellhole.

Trϵϵship, Saturday, 9 February 2019 17:24 (seven years ago)

I'm only slightly surprised at how tough some of the language is. (there is of course the usual "small business" pandering but wtv)

bhad bundy (Simon H.), Saturday, 9 February 2019 17:25 (seven years ago)

I mean, she isn’t a marxist. But in this phase of history the big challenge is dismantling the robber baron ethos we’ve allowed to take over every single one of our institutions like a weed. She might even be the best person to take that on—speaking dialectically, sb me if you want—because with her what always stands out is how our society has failed to live up to its own standard.

Trϵϵship, Saturday, 9 February 2019 17:28 (seven years ago)

not saying this is *why* she's doing it necessarily but the aggressive positioning will make it a little tougher for Sanders to stand out this time around unless he can make a simple, persuasive case as to what makes his solution set and record compellingly different (I would think, anyway)

bhad bundy (Simon H.), Saturday, 9 February 2019 17:29 (seven years ago)

Pretty much anyone can get on board with her critique if american capitalism.

Trϵϵship, Saturday, 9 February 2019 17:29 (seven years ago)

xpost I am ok with normal dress codes. Otherwise adults wear some freaky shit to corporate offices. It only takes one to ruin it for everyone.

Yerac, Saturday, 9 February 2019 17:29 (seven years ago)

I’d probably rather have bernie, still, but i think a warren presidency could be the start of some seriously positive changes in america too

Trϵϵship, Saturday, 9 February 2019 17:30 (seven years ago)

None of the other candidates seem like they get it the way she and bernie and people like aoc do

Trϵϵship, Saturday, 9 February 2019 17:30 (seven years ago)

It’s more than just this or that policy—it’s an understanding of how things work structurally, who the enemies are

Trϵϵship, Saturday, 9 February 2019 17:31 (seven years ago)

at this point my only real preferences for Bernie over Warren are 1) I'm worried about her instincts when it comes to attack deflection and 2) Sanders has made breaking up massive tech companies and banks a repeated priority which, if Warren has as well, then I've missed it. I also like that he's pretty much had the same principles more or less forever but that's not really important as a selling point, just nifty and unusual.

bhad bundy (Simon H.), Saturday, 9 February 2019 17:34 (seven years ago)

It’s more than just this or that policy—it’s an understanding of how things work structurally, who the enemies are


applies to dress codes as well

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Saturday, 9 February 2019 17:36 (seven years ago)

Idk abour tech companies but i am fairly certain warren wants to break up the banks

Trϵϵship, Saturday, 9 February 2019 17:36 (seven years ago)

If Warren can deliver that speech several hundred more times in the next year and that message be heard by enough voters, she stands a good chance of pulling the whole party with her and overcoming the smears and FUD that will be thrown at her by the right.

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 9 February 2019 17:40 (seven years ago)

I think she can. In the senate she stays on message. I think ppl counted her out too soon.

Trϵϵship, Saturday, 9 February 2019 17:42 (seven years ago)

If anything we should be glad the fucking DNA fracas happened so early

since we were talking about what "progressive prosecutor" could mean earlier itt, I found this piece on Krasner's office and their struggles balancing perception and action re: the Abu-Jamal case worth a read

https://theintercept.com/2019/02/09/larry-krasner-mumia-abu-jamal/

bhad bundy (Simon H.), Saturday, 9 February 2019 17:44 (seven years ago)

Warren's emphasis on banning foreign governments from lobbying in Washington is, and always has been, the correct response to Russiagate and the other big Trump scandals.

— David Klion (@DavidKlion) February 9, 2019

bhad bundy (Simon H.), Saturday, 9 February 2019 17:46 (seven years ago)

now confirmed by a couple of ppl who would know.... the idea of Amy Kloubacher making a staffer shave her legs while she berates them is just fucking my mind up

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 9 February 2019 18:19 (seven years ago)

Definitely uncool

Trϵϵship, Saturday, 9 February 2019 18:22 (seven years ago)

so while she's berating the staff member the staff member is shaving her legs?

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 9 February 2019 18:25 (seven years ago)

yes apparently this has been one of the great insider stories in MN DFL circles, I guess it was a known thing

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 9 February 2019 18:28 (seven years ago)

...huh

bhad bundy (Simon H.), Saturday, 9 February 2019 18:41 (seven years ago)

I dont think we need more senators as candidates

Trϵϵship, Saturday, 9 February 2019 18:42 (seven years ago)

There is already a good mix of these

Trϵϵship, Saturday, 9 February 2019 18:43 (seven years ago)

Elizabeth Warren: "Some rich guys scream 'CLASS WARFARE!' But let me tell you something, these same rich guys have been waging class warfare against hard-working people for decades. I say it's time to fight back." pic.twitter.com/6TCIIFxs63

— Erick Fernandez (@ErickFernandez) February 9, 2019



*hums the Internationale*

bhad bundy (Simon H.), Saturday, 9 February 2019 18:45 (seven years ago)

I am so confused about this leg shaving story.

Yerac, Saturday, 9 February 2019 19:04 (seven years ago)

People are kink shaming klobuchar.

Trϵϵship, Saturday, 9 February 2019 19:05 (seven years ago)

It was a sex thing? I can't even figure out what is going on with it. It's so stupidly ridiculous it sounds like what an incel thinks 'ladybosses' make subordinates do.

Yerac, Saturday, 9 February 2019 19:06 (seven years ago)

Really, i think she made her female employees shave their legs if they weren’t going to wear pantyhose.

Trϵϵship, Saturday, 9 February 2019 19:09 (seven years ago)

I thought m@tt was joking? is this serious?

k3vin k., Saturday, 9 February 2019 19:09 (seven years ago)

I don’t think she made men shave their legs—theyre usually wearing pants i’d imagine. I dont know minnesota though

Trϵϵship, Saturday, 9 February 2019 19:09 (seven years ago)

the story sounds like BS btw

k3vin k., Saturday, 9 February 2019 19:11 (seven years ago)

i dunno the ppl posting about it were 3 DFL ppl and one current city council member (and some of these ppl are women who are saying this not men)

obv i cannot say if it's true or not but that is indeed what ppl who are involved in DFL politics are saying

the staff shavers are women not men (according to the story)

it's fucking bizarre but i dunno ppl who are passing it around like it was some kinda known thing, insane if true

def not the thing i expecting to see this morning

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 9 February 2019 20:01 (seven years ago)

so yeah...who the fuck knows just reporting from the polar vortex here

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 9 February 2019 20:01 (seven years ago)

and to be clear the story is AK made staffers shave HER legs (AK's legs) which is super fucking bizarre

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 9 February 2019 20:02 (seven years ago)

godspeed

gbx, Saturday, 9 February 2019 20:03 (seven years ago)

The real explanation here is very simple. Klochubar not only hates shaving her own legs, but is a very busy and important woman, so she chose to save her valuable time by having staff shave her legs in spare moments at the office rather than going to a spa or some other place where that service might be available. If she had switched to pants suits as an alternative solution, she was afraid this would damage her image among church-going, elderly, Minnesotan women.

A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 9 February 2019 20:11 (seven years ago)

if this happened it doesn’t seem like it should be too difficult to get someone on the record. maybe that will still happen

k3vin k., Saturday, 9 February 2019 20:20 (seven years ago)

Not if they want to continue to work in the very small and insular world of MN DFL politics though

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 9 February 2019 21:19 (seven years ago)

that is fucking weird. my hope is that story is false.

akm, Saturday, 9 February 2019 21:42 (seven years ago)

*rushes to shave own legs*

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 9 February 2019 21:43 (seven years ago)

Having someone else shave your legs would be 100xs more of a hassle than the 2 minutes it takes to do it yourself.

Yerac, Saturday, 9 February 2019 21:55 (seven years ago)

Unless it is a mobility or ableness issue.

Yerac, Saturday, 9 February 2019 21:56 (seven years ago)

If it’s true, it’s obviously more of an abusive kink than a matter of convenience. If it’s false, what a heckin weird story to spread around

Norm’s Superego (silby), Saturday, 9 February 2019 22:00 (seven years ago)

see you on the TRAIL

Today Elizabeth Warren, sometimes referred to by me as Pocahontas, joined the race for President. Will she run as our first Native American presidential candidate, or has she decided that after 32 years, this is not playing so well anymore? See you on the campaign TRAIL, Liz!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 9, 2019

Your sweetie-pie-coo-coo I love ya (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 9 February 2019 23:08 (seven years ago)

She should scalp him.

a large tuna called “Justice” (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 9 February 2019 23:19 (seven years ago)

Really tough to imagine the leg shaving story just getting dreamt up out of nowhere, though I suppose stranger things have happened

bhad bundy (Simon H.), Saturday, 9 February 2019 23:21 (seven years ago)

the legs shaving thing sound LBJesque

Mordy, Saturday, 9 February 2019 23:53 (seven years ago)

than the 2 minutes it takes to do it yourself

maybe she thought she would rush it and cut herself

in this capitol hill culture of turning underlings into life-aides (cf. scott pruitt and ryan zinke)

j., Saturday, 9 February 2019 23:55 (seven years ago)

Nice that she's getting ahead of these, but when you gotta start off with your own Snopes page...

https://i.imgur.com/jWdgWOP.png

pplains, Sunday, 10 February 2019 02:42 (seven years ago)


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