“Happy Birthday Baby!” Talk about Russian Doll on Netflix

you do if you're WEAK

I liked that the friend hosting the party was played by the actress who was Heidi on High Maintenance

That fan theory above is good in that it does something to explain the otherwise inexplicable ending with the puppet heads. And Lyonne's inexplicably "80s" style of speech -- as he says, not only does she reference her love for Andrew Dice Clay (a bizarrely anachronistic thing for someone in 2019 NYC to do) she talks like Andrew Dice Clay and not like people you meet in New York now.

I def think this is a horror movie! I like its frankness about the fact that either surviving OR successfully suiciding out are basically fine and OK outcomes compared to looping

Enjoying this. I like how it feels like a fantasy melange of early 00s and contemporary LES/East Village as parties like this were familiar to me - minus the recurring stuff - back in the early 2000s. Different NYC.
Have met NL a couple of times in the past via mutual acquaintances and she was always awesome. Happy for her and whatever success this brings.

I've now seen three or four episodes of this and really like it so will watch the rest. But I've known Zinoman for 25 years (we went to school together) and for whatever reason was hearing about his grand unified theory from lots of places, so popped into his feed to see what's up. I skipped to the end to avoid spoilers, but I saw that the first comment was from NL more or less saying OTM.

prob worth noting that the "fan theory" is from the NYTimes comedy critic

lol my best friend, watching on my recommendation, absolutely hated this

at least his wife liked it

A further thread

I have something to add to @zinoman's brilliant grand unified theory about Russian Doll, one of the most exciting things I've viewed in years. My addition, like his, has to do with Tompkins Square Park. His thread is about 1991. Mine is about 1974. Spoiler + long thread alert! 1/ https://t.co/n2ks8OHc3q

— Christopher DeWeese (@lighghghght) February 10, 2019

ooh I’m into that theory v much

This is so good.

love it

I kind of want to live in that bathroom.

All you have to do is die

I liked this series a lot, and like people said upthread, it felt like a more true-to-life variation of Groundhog Day with less romcom clichés, of what kind of work it takes to learn out of ones hurtful habits and try to change as a person... What I didn't like, though, was the extra plot twist they added in the final episode, that was needlessly convoluted and didn't feel natural the way the rest of the plot progression synced with the protagonists tackling their issues.

The ending of the penultimate episode was really the emotional climax of the story, so I didn't quite get what was the point of adding that extra drama on top of it? It almost felt like the writers, knowing that the series would be compared to Groundhog Day, and realising their ending was pretty much the same as in GH too, decided to add the extra twist so they could be like, "See, it isn't the GH plot after all?". But it didn't work for, IMO the final episode should've just been about how they're rebuilding their lives after the whole ordeal.

Having them end up in the same timeline at the end would've robbed them of the opportunity to save each other's lives, which was, in part, the whole genesis of the glitch.

Um, I kind of agree with Tuomas

The series would've been immensely weakened were the two timelines not divergent imo

i myself go to fabulous nyc parties like this all the time, but never on a sunday night.

This is by far the most unbelievable part of the show.

Like, just say she had to come in and do a bug fix on Sunday, it's much more believable and less distracting.

I remember lots of stuff going on Sunday nights. Friday and Saturdays were for tourists and bridge and tunnel (when I was younger).

yeah, not only would the divergent / ambiguity about divergence in the big metaphorical???? parade ending be drastically weaker, it would make the second series thuddingly bathetic

(if they do make one, which seems likely given the reaction; I'm fine if they don't, but Headland and Lyonne get commissioned to make something else new instead)


xp nah, so much of her character and milieu is IMMEDIATELY filled in by the fact that a) she doesn't want a birthday party b) rich artist friends throw her a huge party c) on her actual birthday because that is her birthday d) nearly exclusively full of people she's never set eyes on before e) that she goes to anyway regardless of her antipathy, the absence of friends, and having a major work deadline in the morning.

plus f) the way she handles the meeting when she turns up

i've thrown several birthday parties on sunday nights. monday sucked ass yeah

Horse Badorties is such a great name and I've been thinking about it all day

The idea of them making "season 2" of this is absurd and I hope nobody is actually thinking about doing it, so few things end well and this one does.

Lyonne & Headland & Poehler have a three-season plan, so they’re the ones you have to tell are getting it wrong.

They *pitched* a 3 season plan, but we don't know how much it got condensed to give us the season we got.

Yeah, not looking forward to further seasons

Well I do have great faith in them based on this, so if they came in with a 3-season plan, I trust there's a good reason for it. But if they are feeling compelled to scramble to come up with something because everybody likes this so much, then no, I think they should let this ending be the ending and do something else.

Just finished, and I adored it, but yeah, I really hope they don't do a second season. This was a full story in itself, what the hell would be the point?

if they came in with a 3-season plan, I trust there's a good reason for it. But if they are feeling compelled to scramble to come up with something because everybody likes this so much, then no, I think they should let this ending be the ending and do something else.

This sums up my feelings much better than my own post, actually.

Friday and Saturdays were for tourists and bridge and tunnel (when I was younger).

These people are too old for Sunday night blowouts

This is a ludicrous thing to be pedantic about, people party on Sundays

Natasha lyonne is in her 30s

In the show. She's about to be 40 irl.

She's about to be 40 irl.

So... she's in her 30s, then?

My "when I was younger" thing was more about NYC (pre-internet loneliness_ gentrification) than about age really.

She’s 39, apparently.

So you’re all right!

Sorry, I'm just trying to claim her for our side (forty-somethings).

Just wait a little under two months.

The best thing about nyc was how 30-40-80 somethings would still go out on school nights.

Having them end up in the same timeline at the end would've robbed them of the opportunity to save each other's lives, which was, in part, the whole genesis of the glitch.

Mainlined this entire thing last night, thoughts and impressions still percolating but one thing I keep coming back to is that, for reasons I can't quite pin down, this felt like a Jaime Hernandez story to me (which is super high praise). Possibly because I haven't seen anyone on screen better capture the essence of Hopey Glass than Natasha Lyonne (who should probably win all the awards).

Interesting comparison. I've always wondered who would be good actresses to play Maggie and Hopey.

Probably end up with Emma Stone and ScarJo.

Probably end up with Emma Stone and ScarJo.

at one point there was something caught in nadia's hair -- what was it, i didn't catch it

Champagne cork wire

later turned into a bistro chair, which people do.