"oh you don't get me I'm the end of the union": lol brexit is how we're all gonna die

"The fundamental point is that it is now impossible to conceive of a Brexit deal which secures the majority support of MPs across the House of Commons which would not simultaneously break up either the Tory Party or the Labour Party or - more probably - both parties" — @Peston

— Adam Payne (@adampayne26) February 7, 2019

putting nsfw after the nsfw image doesn't really help

Apologies.

is that meant to be some metaphor for the inevitable FBPE full-meltdown primal anguish

tbh i'm good with the break-up of the Tories and the Labour party

umunna-leslie party only ever going to be a spoiler - if it’s going to happen it will happen on the eve of the next election, calculated to maximise damage to future PM call-me-jez corbyn

misread that as 'marximise damage' :)

.@theresa_may statement on @JunckerEU talks (attached) represents her ripping up hope she can get Brexit deal through with support of her ERG Brexiter MPs. She either wins support of Labour MPs or it’s no-deal or no Brexit. @jeremycorbyn in driving seat https://t.co/eHaN6vj2Yf pic.twitter.com/pmD810VKRb

— Robert Peston (@Peston) February 7, 2019

The fun thing about having so many Blairites parachuted into safe seats over the years is that they have to overturn huge pro-Labour voter blocs and ground operations if they are going to try to defect / break away and retain their local areas.

Well quite. The only reason these fucks don't join the Lib Dems is naked careerism.

I don't think they're really looking to split, I think the plan is to split him from his younger voter base, make sure Corbyn owns Brexit and then maximise the betrayal narrative when it goes wrong. They're going to make sure everyone knows he's working with the Tories.

I think it'll probably work to some extent and it's an elephant trap he'd be best avoiding. Where it will probably fail is that there's no chance in hell of younger Labour voters coalescing round Chuka or whoever else they have lined up.

who are these masterminds exactly?

https://images.vice.com/vice/images/articles/meta/2016/08/08/owen-smith-bbq-in-london-fields-1470652671.jpg

kinnock_wife_lecture.m4a

Put it this way I'd be very surprised if these guys weren't taking direct advice from Alistair Campbell, who is a busted flush politically but still retains enough influence in the media and must exist in a state of constant eye-popping rage about his guys having lost control of the party. (Even if it's mostly his fault).

.@guyverhofstadt: Mrs May has accepted there has to be a backstop in the Withdrawal Agreement. Again Verhofstadt says the only room for manoeuvre is on the Political Declaration. Welcomes Corbyn letter to May offering a cross-party approach to Brexit

— Tony Connelly (@tconnellyRTE) February 7, 2019

If Corbyn's base were really agitating for a 2nd ref or remaining in the EU it would have been a lot more than some report/poll in The Observer by now, and you might have seen a push for a 2nd ref in Parliament.

No doubt people are angry and sad over leaving the EU, but I reckon the base recognise its just one of a number of issues facing the country.

Which is why People's Vote lot want a split so much. According to them the base of both Tory and Labour Party have lost it with only the Lib Dems being the adults in the room. Shame there is only 10 of them.

Cable counts as 2 adults tho

Yeah but Farron is three babies standing on each other’s shoulders.

I stepped on some Cable in the park earlier, might throw them shoes out tbh.

xp Hey, please nobody ruin Vincent Adultman for me!

Guy Verhofstadt:

We cannot have an agreement with uncertainty in the UK based on majorities of six, seven, eight, nine votes in the House of Commons. Cross-party cooperation is the way forward, and I can say that we welcome also the letter that Jeremy Corbyn has written today to Mrs May to offer such a cross-party exit. It is important now that this leads to a position in the UK that has the broadest possible majority so that we can conclude this negotiation.

The Lib Dems have sent an email that’s so terrible that it’s actually quite sweet. pic.twitter.com/B2xdMZldMx

— Tom Hamilton (@thhamilton) February 6, 2019

tick thinks milk turns frogs gay

Can't abide Guy Verhofstadt tbh

Oh, 200,000 people supporting a people's vote. Super work.

You could subtract de-industrialisation, immigration, the tabloid press, the financial crisis, Corbyn from the politics of the past decade, and still imagine a path to Brexit. Subtract "The Conservative Party", and Brexit is simply unthinkable.

— Will Davies (@davies_will) February 7, 2019

Theresa May is unable to reach a sensible deal because it would split the Tories – and we will never vote for a bad Tory deal.

If Parliament is deadlocked, then the best outcome would be a general election. Without it, we will keep all options on the table, as agreed in our party conference motion, including the option of a public vote.

xp. that's wrong though. you definitely could not subtract immigration and end up with brexit because it's a british nationalist nativist project

corbyn letter just arrived in my inbox. reaction to 2nd reffers shitting the bed after corbyn 5 tests letter

it is going to be one unholy shitshow when the dam fully breaks on this (on both sides)

uh-oh:

Owen Smith says he might quit Labour over Brexit stance

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/feb/07/owen-smith-says-he-might-quit-labour-over-brexit-stance

oh no whatever will we do without steak salad and Spotify man

Reading this piece on an old Scottish by-election...and Bobby Gillespie's dad:

http://www.tribunemag.co.uk/2019/01/the-govan-by-election-thirty-years-on

I remember it well, Boab's dad could barely string two sentences together.

... the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

friend of mine sent juncker a thank you card

I remember it well, Boab's dad could barely string two sentences together.

― Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Thursday, 7 February 2019 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I knew you'd be the first one to comment on this btw :-)

he used to drink in my local

he’d put on a full nights worth of country on the jukey so another regular couldn’t listen to the smiths

xxp seriously?!?! The giant card?

hero imo xp

yep

ffs let's not get too carried away here :p

I can remember some (Scottish?) NME hack decades ago, opening up a Boab interview with some very evocative prose about what a great political orator Boab sr was, a true inspirational w/c hero etc. Maybe he became infected by Boab's Walter Mitty tendencies or just thought it made good copy, but "Boab's dad could barely string two sentences together." deffo has the ring of truth.

Put it this way, he singlehandedly threw away a majority of 13,000 in Govan largely as a result a single TV appearance, despite his subsequent attempts to paint it as some sort of anti-Left conspiracy.

That and the fact he came over as yet another Scottish Labour dullard expecting to hoover up votes simply by pinning a red rosette.

thank god those days are gone :p

is there a Tom D bat-signal equiv. for every time Blobbly Gillespie is mentioned on ILX?

lol

What can I do, he's even getting mentioned in UK poltics threads now, he's following me not the other way round.

feel an MR James ghost story coming on.

'Cast your runes off, honey'