"oh you don't get me I'm the end of the union": lol brexit is how we're all gonna die

> "I have been wondering what the special place in hell looks like for those who promoted Brexit without even a sketch of a plan how to carry it safely"

> Donald Tusk: Special place in hell for Brexiteers

it's not THAT far away from what he said. the main bone of contention seems to be caused by the brexit voters / brexit promoters / brexiteers conflation.

xp

It makes a big difference because first one makes it sound like he’s attacking the voters.

It makes a huge difference. I don't understand how one can say "it's not THAT far away from what he said'. Doesn't matter how near or far away, it's not what he said. It's not complicated.

The disinformation age is just so disheartening.

it's a paraphrase. it'd have quotes around it if it was a direct quote.

Brexit voters were not expected to have a ‘plan’. The politicians who have been bitching about the EU and demanding we leave - let’s call them Brexiteers - have had 40 years to come up with a plan. This ‘look, he’s calling you proles names’ thing isn’t washing with me.

In the Commons the Tory Brexiter Peter Bone described Donald Tusk’s anti-Brexiter comment as a “completely outrageous insult”, adding:

I don’t recall any president insulting members of this House, members of the government and the British people in such a way.

(Reminder: during the EU referendum Bone campaigned alongside Nigel Farage, the then Ukip leader, under the banner of Grassroots Out, the organisation they both founded. Farage’s offensiveness towards EU politicians is legendary. He famously described Herman Van Rompuy, Tusk’s predecessor as president of the European council, as having “all the charisma of a damp rag and the appearance of a low-grade bank clerk”.)

fact checking we can believe in

(from the graun live blog)

Britain's politicians compare these guys to Stalin, Nazis, or whatever else comes to mind, and just expect them to take it. But the minute they answer back they're "showing contempt".

Britain is in an abusive relationship with the EU. And we're the abusive partner. https://t.co/VufFQ0Z8tm

— Jonn Elledge (@JonnElledge) February 6, 2019

brexit is an attempt to take us back to the glory days when britain was the world's abusive partner iirc

"people who campaigned for something they had no credible plan to achieve are bad" is exactly the same as "FUCK YOU TOMMY ROSBIF" tbf, can't see how the elision possibly changes the context

I believe we're supposed to say Stephen Yaxley-Rosbif these days.

that's right, remove the irish part of his name

Yaxley Neeson?

me, earlier: I will never feel sorry for Theresa May
The New European:

here’s this week’s New European cover - Oh! Jeremy Corbyn! Duvet want Brexit after all? on sale Thursdays pic.twitter.com/OPrOw4wYEu

— Matt Kelly (@mk1969) February 6, 2019

jesus god

Gross.

Marie Le Conte points out that it's almost sad that Paul Dacre's not still at the Mail just to see what tomorrow's front page would be.

Is this a designer thing as much as an editor thing? Honestly idk. Still gross yes.

haha! One thing though. The Union Jack is the symbol of the People's Vote Movement. Hard brexiteers like these two would be far more likely to be sleeping under the red flag of Russia.

— Simon Hedges (@Orwell_Fan) February 6, 2019

pls do not quote MLC itt

I would say it’s the editor given the previous grim cover with Owen Jones on tbh. (

But of course the only one crying on this cover is the gay guy, in no way is the overly emotional / hysterical gay man one of the oldest homophobic tropes in the book https://t.co/amxKQ9fD45

— Owen Jones🌹 (@OwenJones84) August 15, 2018

Here's why I blocked New European editor @mk1969, who celebrated me being violently mugged. But he's a respectable liberal, apparently. pic.twitter.com/vk9UtBExlM

— Owen Jones🌹 (@OwenJones84) August 2, 2017

xp ha otm

pls do not quote MLC itt

I mean, I'm starting with no, but go on..

sorry probably a bit strong just remember when I used to be on twitter that she was p execrable for a long while until she had a woke rebrand. did she not doxx someone at some point too ?

Oh I hadn't heard about any of that, as long as I've seen her (which is mostly just the last few years - I think I saw her first in that BBC 3 "Hey there's a daft referendum coming up, let's ask some Europeans what they think about the UK" clip) she's been pretty alright (as far as I know) - she has the journalist disease that her work twitter account is her personal twitter account, so she's joking around with conhome editors - but by the same measure, it's useful to see how audibly pissed off she is with how things are going.

Xp, she didn’t doxx anyone. The idea that she gave out a Hillsborough campaigner’s home address is something that has taken on a life of its own but seems to be a complete misreading of what was actually published.

However, it was terrible snitch reporting in the first place and she is awful.

conhome editors

dude you shd go on mastermind before humphrys quits that too

Ban Twitter.

Oh yeah that thing - filed under very very very bad faith accusations.

Andrew we’re here for you in your time of need. If you want help getting off CH, I can recommend some aversion therapy.

How would that even work though - they've got the MoggCast, what's more emetic that that?

It works like confession. Every time you think about going to the site, you have to watch the Leo Love Actually clip ten times. If you can stomach that and head for the comments, you need to watch the Leo & Gerry Pilates clip 15 times.
https://youtu.be/7jOZdUX68Pg

If you get past that, you need to watch The Foreigner in full.

got mad because "donald tusk" is trending and i thought it would be a walrus that looked like trump

— DougExeter (@DougExeter) February 6, 2019

I’ve seen Donald Tusk on the news so much today I’m actually starting to find him hot.

Xp, she didn’t doxx anyone. The idea that she gave out a Hillsborough campaigner’s home address is something that has taken on a life of its own but seems to be a complete misreading...

ya this looks like one of those 'if you're explaining, you're losing' deals

I might actually have The Foreigner on my Netflix list.

xp that's why it works

gyac fp

that xp did not actually work as intended.

tldr she ran a scoop that the woman who introduced Corbyn at a conference, who was a Hillsborough campaigner, had previously signed nomination papers for a socialist local politician who had been supportive of the justice campaign. This would have been a breach of Labour Party rules, for a member, and came at a time when a load of centrists were complaining about ‘entryism’. She published the nomination papers, which had the guy’s address on (which is already public) but just the woman’s name.

It encapsulates some of the absolute worst of Buzzfeed’s approach to news and pretty much boils down to an attempt to get a grieving mother kicked out of Labour as a gotcha to Corbyn but idk, her address wasn’t there.

lol @ whole concept of the new european... a newspaper launched as a platform for pro-europe agitprop, whose first issue came out two weeks after the referendum. Great work guys.

Jesus Martin Campbell's had an odd career though.

(I'm not feeling any need to defend everything MLC wrote for Buzzfeed and tbh I doubt she is either)

xxp iirc it wasn’t doxxing but she was publishing an address that wasn’t already online but would have been available locally?

Anyway she’s got pretty dubious politics. Just like Jane Merrick if Jane Merrick wrote in the Gawker house style.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/feb/06/tory-mp-ross-thomson-accused-of-groping-men-in-commons-bar#img-1

Scot-cons Ross Thomson is a hands on type of MP.

the leo & gerry pilates clip is proof that this thread can still deliver from time to time

uh easy there thats a clip from another sovereign thread

A thoroughly depressing read about racism in the UK and how basically nobody gives a shit about the government deporting black people.
https://mediadiversified.org/2019/02/06/there-is-a-war-on-black-people-in-britain-if-youre-complacent-youre-complicit/

Have we had a look at this yet?

Corbyn lays out Labour’s terms for backing May on Brexit

I think it's good they're putting this out there, it's more clear than they've been recently. Not that they'll get their way, but that wasn't gonna happen anyway.

(soz that was an xp, didn't mean to talk over your link gyac)

That’s fine and you weren’t.

I think the labour terms are sensible in terms of being least damaging to the country. Remain seems completely remote now and yet the people’s vote crowd are losing it over this. But labour can’t stick it out for something that’s not going to get parliamentary support.

I have a feeling May will reject this now, which would be worse for the country but better for Labour. But as per almost every post I’ve made in these threads, I don’t expect any of the people responsible for this to be held to account any time soon so...