2020 Democratic presidential primary

he doesn't dare

I would be shocked if any potential georgian voters 1. notice the "controversy" and 2. will care and 3. will remember it a week later

(conditioning Democratic voters to believe the things they want are unpopular and the candidates they like are unelectable is how the political establishment keeps the country moving to the right) https://t.co/2QqxIcg6gF

— derek davison (@dwdavison9318) February 5, 2019

'i was thinking about supporting bernie in the primary because i want medicare for all and the war in yemen is awful and we've got to tax the rich, but then i heard he gave a speech on facebook right after stacey abrams. i'm a harris guy now.'

xpost he should eat a peach

― We were never Breeting Borting (President Keyes), Tuesday, February 5, 2019 11:37 AM (one hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

he doesn't dare

― difficult listening hour, Tuesday, February 5, 2019 11:41 AM (one hour ago)

I see you dlh

morbs thank you for sharing that bad and dumb take. takeaway seems to be “the things they want” = “dump trump”
and that this position is very popular and more urgent than other hypothetical u defined positions.

Yeah, the primary will be decided by their stances on Yemen, lol.

bernie not really doing much to offset claims that his whole deal is a little more about the Bernmeister than it is about the issues that, while they are no doubt as important to him as he says they are, aren't served well by "I get my own response. Check it out everybody that guy you like is gonna give his response"

yeah rogerm, by playing Family Feud w/ other voters' minds

stfu Fredzo

youre right JCLC, his whole deal should be about Kamala Harris

I mean back in the day Gus Hall used to deliver a response to the SOTU, too, but it only ran in Worker's World & there was pretty much zero risk that it'd swing the needle toward a huckster real estate dude raiding the cupboards for a second term

now there's a name I haven't heard in awhile

there's still time to draft a nice moderate like Hillary!

meanwhile, Tulsi makin the tough calls

Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-Hawaii) Tuesday rejected a 2020 endorsement by David Duke, a founder and former grand wizard of the Ku Klux Klan.

“I have strongly denounced David Duke’s hateful views and his so-called ‘support’ multiple times in the past, and reject his support,” Gabbard said in a statement to The Hill.
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“Publicizing Duke's so-called ‘endorsement’ is meant to distract from my message: that I will end regime-change wars, work to end the new cold war and take us away from the precipice of a nuclear war, which is a greater danger now than ever before.”

Duke, who founded a Louisiana branch of the KKK in 1974 and served as the grand wizard of the Knights of the Klu Klux Klan until 1979, on Monday appeared to endorse Gabbard, the first Hindu member of Congress.

“Tulsi Gabbard in 2020. Finally a candidate for President who will really put America First?” he tweeted, linking to an article about President Trump’s recent proposal to keep troops in Iraq. Gabbard, an Iraq war veteran, is a staunch opponent of military interventionism.

re "dump Trump" as an issue

Yeah I get that Trump is an ignoramus. His supporters love it when you make fun of his ignorance. How do you plan to defeat him politically? https://t.co/UgjDaIjwbk

— Doug Henwood (@DougHenwood) February 4, 2019

I mean back in the day Gus Hall used to deliver a response to the SOTU, too, but it only ran in Worker's World & there was pretty much zero risk that it'd swing the needle toward a huckster real estate dude raiding the cupboards for a second term

unclear how Bernie making a statement onthe internet *after* someone who's not running for president risks this in any way shape or form but go off

Yeah I get that Trump wants to fuck his own daughter. His supporters love it when you make fun of him wanting to fuck his own daughter. How do you plan to defeat him politically?

I don't think there's any risk of anything, it just makes Bernie look like a prima donna

He is! he's just not one who leads from behind like Pelosi...

can you stop

ever

most members of Congress have egos even bigger than Frederik's

Yeah I get that Trump wants to fuck his own daughter. His supporters love it when you make fun of him wanting to fuck his own daughter. How do you plan to defeat him politically?

still, one has to admit that as troll games go this one is hard to counter

he's just not one who leads from behind like Pelosi...

lol there's a reason Bernie's never led anything, let's see if you can figure it out

i think bernie doing his own response is a ridiculous thing to get worked up about, not least because the way we do SOTU responses now is hardly some sacred ritual. as late as the mid-80s the response consisted of a moderated discussion featuring a dozen or more ppl:

https://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/resources/pdf/RespondStateUnion2.pdf

i'm too young to have seen any of these when they aired but personally i think it sounds more appealing than the current format; every single SOTU response i can remember has been stiff and boring. (in fairness, most of the SOTU speeches i can remember were no better. maybe some of obama's were ok?)

he led the battle against Rodham, you legislative fanboy halfwit

xp

yeah, it's not a big deal, it's just silly. I will be watching no SOTU events fwiw

ah back to namecalling

ILX Dems seem to live by THOU SHALT NOT UPSET DONNA BRAZILE

every single SOTU response i can remember has been stiff and boring

lol I just remembered that "I am a democrat, but first and foremost, I am a proud republican" one from a couple years back

the Clinton SOTU where they forgot to upload his speech into the teleprompter and he ended up improvising it was impressive at the time as oratory even if you didn't know the background story. That's all I remember. Oh, and "The era of big government is over."

The Speaker's job, strictly understood, is not to innovate or inspire passionate resolve, but to manage the flow of legislation and secondarily to hold the caucus together during votes on important legislation. She has tremendous power over what bills are passed or are allowed to die, and over committee assignments. Therefore she has great power over individual representatives, so as to whip them on certain votes, but she does not have enough power to overcome the collective will of the caucus. She can't lead in the way morbs seems to imagine she can. She facilitates, by judiciously distributing rewards and punishments.

i would say that's a booming post if the speaker's job weren't reexplained to morbs 3-4 times a month

.@SenSanders in 1989 when asked about Rev. Jesse Jackson's presidential campaign. Thumbs up except for @TheDemocrats affiliation. cc: @mgranville1 #NeverBernie pic.twitter.com/6atNKjBd4x

— NeverBernie (@never_bernie) February 4, 2019

lol yeah how is that supposed to be remotely damaging

can't they find a video of him w a shark bong or something

Brad honey, i don't give a motherfuck about the Speaker or ppl who lust to occupy that chair

i don't give a motherfuck about the Speaker

other than to express your disappointment and disdain, which sounds suspiciously emotionally involved for someone not giving a motherfuck

i'm grateful she's better at her job than Schumer is at his, how's that?

BACK TO THE CANDIDATES

i will enjoy not seeing your posts at least on mobile for the next 1.5 years, see you on the other side honey

if alive

Super ready to never hear Tulsi Gabbard's name again

genuinely surprised even some of the sharper posters here are falling for this bernie non-issue. it’s a response on his facebook page he’s been doing every year since trump took office

With the willing cooperation of the media, which has endless quantities of air time to fill, Tulsi will drag out her moment of notoriety long past what it deserves. Somewhat like the comedian Gallagher.

This is the only place I frequent where Tulsi even comes up.

'i was thinking about supporting bernie in the primary because i want medicare for all and the war in yemen is awful and we've got to tax the rich, but then i heard he gave a speech on facebook right after stacey abrams. i'm a harris guy now.'

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, February 5, 2019 1:14 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i'm pretty wary about getting angry at any Dems right now for perceived issues w/decorum let alone using social media gotchas, it all feels like a lot of gleeful infighting and sometimes it feels like it's spurred on by people "throwing their voice" a bit in the left's direction.

which is to say people should make a nice educated decision on who they're going to vote for and try not to participate in the endless bullshit cycle

^^^ Russian psy-ops

otm

proud of yall for seeing this is nonsense

def has that feel. i guess what's crazymaking, and why i've been venting in this thread (Morbs, sorry i got snappy) is the number of people in my online orbit who i also know and like to some degree irl who seem glad to pile on.