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My controp is loving typefaces that are out of fashion (Palatino, Goudy, Optima).

I also don't use the word "font" to mean "typeface" but that's a losing battle

Gunther Gleiben (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 3 February 2019 00:56 (five years ago) link

I should clarify: when submitting a manuscript to an editor or to anyone else who will most likely change the font anyway

TNR is neutral, readable, and classic. I get that people don't want to use it for resumes because it's basic or whatever, but I think that's silly

and cosign on the monospacing

Paul Ponzi, Sunday, 3 February 2019 01:00 (five years ago) link

Ugh YMP Rachel cusk’s books are set in Optima and it makes me not want to read them, defend Optima

Norm’s Superego (silby), Sunday, 3 February 2019 01:21 (five years ago) link

Optima, with its sculptural variation in line weight, is the cuddliest of the sans serifs. The most humanist of the sans serifs, IMO. And one of the most readable when used for body text.

No one wants to read an entire novel set in Arial (I think/hope?).

Of course I am pretty much always going to go with a serif as a text face. Sans serifs are mainly display faces, for me. But if you are going to use a sans serif for body text, Optima is one of the more readable choices.

Gunther Gleiben (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 3 February 2019 01:45 (five years ago) link

last year i started using some writing software that defaulted to palatino for some reason. can't imagine i've thought of using it since 1994, but it seems fine, so i let it be.

j., Sunday, 3 February 2019 01:54 (five years ago) link

Every font that isn’t comic sans is pretentious

Trϵϵship, Sunday, 3 February 2019 02:13 (five years ago) link

I can’t take writing seriously if if’s in anything else

Trϵϵship, Sunday, 3 February 2019 02:13 (five years ago) link

Word has been defaulting to Calibri for me lately for some reason and I HATE IT LIKE POISON

Paul Ponzi, Sunday, 3 February 2019 14:11 (five years ago) link

Garamond is a nice less used alternative to Times New Roman

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 3 February 2019 14:35 (five years ago) link

here for garamond and goudy support

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Sunday, 3 February 2019 15:19 (five years ago) link

I was listening to a podcast about a case in which a district attorney and a couple of judges were attacked, and some dark part of me felt that, if it's your 9-5 job to lock people in cases for years, sometimes for their whole life, maybe a little blowback should be expected and almost feels like fair play.

That said I do not condone violence ever JUST FOR THE RECORD

calumy (rip van wanko), Sunday, 3 February 2019 16:25 (five years ago) link

cases=cages

calumy (rip van wanko), Sunday, 3 February 2019 16:25 (five years ago) link

They most definitely expect it because it's a thing that happens. But the threat isn't highlighted in most media in order to discourage people from copying that kind of behavior. Powerful targets of crime are protected, while the rest of us are fodder for the wolves.

Cousin Slappy, Sunday, 3 February 2019 18:25 (five years ago) link

prob not really controversial but downhill skiing/snowboarding as a leisure activity should be considered a dumb wasteful indulgence and worthy of ridicule. it's dangerous, frivolous, and expensive - all that dumb technical gear, lift tickets, cost of meals at a ski resort, the work required to maintain and patrol a ski mountain, lodging if you aren't a local. what a waste. there are other ways to get outside in the winter that are cheaper, safer, and more enjoyable.

marcos, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 17:22 (five years ago) link

Cosign

flappy bird, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 17:29 (five years ago) link

it's the golfing of mountains

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 5 February 2019 17:35 (five years ago) link

lol otm

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 17:36 (five years ago) link

golfing possibly worse on the wasted resources/ecological destruction front

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 17:37 (five years ago) link

they're both such a to do

flappy bird, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 17:39 (five years ago) link

Skiing is the only justification for human bodies to continue to exist imo, truly the greatest pleasure in the world and I hope that I die while doing it

froggles! (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, 5 February 2019 17:40 (five years ago) link

what about snowboarding

flappy bird, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 17:41 (five years ago) link

I was listening to a podcast about a case in which a district attorney and a couple of judges were attacked, and some dark part of me felt that, if it's your 9-5 job to lock people in cases for years, sometimes for their whole life, maybe a little blowback should be expected and almost feels like fair play.

― calumy (rip van wanko)

i'm on board with restorative justice but that's not how we get there

and yeah DAs have to take a lot of steps to protect themselves

The Elvis of Nationalism and Amoral Patriotism (rushomancy), Tuesday, 5 February 2019 17:42 (five years ago) link

I learned to ski this year. It was fun.

Trϵϵship, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 17:43 (five years ago) link

I've never done downhill, it does seem like it'd have to be crazy fun/thrilling. Was hiking on trail last year that overlaps some of the Telluride runs, and my heart got racing just imagining flying down the mountain at high speeds with these skinny lil sleds strapped to each foot.

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 5 February 2019 17:43 (five years ago) link

You can die playing golf too, of course

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_White_(footballer,_born_1937)

Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Tuesday, 5 February 2019 17:44 (five years ago) link

it's definitely a pain in the ass but skiing is really grebt

mookieproof, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 17:46 (five years ago) link

Rollercoasters = Dud

flappy bird, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 17:47 (five years ago) link

I've never been on a rollercoaster

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 5 February 2019 17:48 (five years ago) link

Are there any rollercoasters in Those Isles, they don’t seem suitable for the culture there

Norm’s Superego (silby), Tuesday, 5 February 2019 17:51 (five years ago) link

sledding on the other hand is a pure joy. we’ve had the same flexible flyer sleds in my family for almost 50 years and now my boys ride them. just bring them to the local hill and it is easy and fun, we’re back in the house in a couple hours without having spent anything

marcos, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 17:51 (five years ago) link

xp. yes, we have rollercoasters. i grew up a couple of miles from a theme park

( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver), Tuesday, 5 February 2019 17:52 (five years ago) link

I have enjoyed snowboarding but prefer skiing

I actually used to instruct at small but enjoyable hills in Ontario

This past Christmas, I skied for two days at Whistler-- only my fourth or fifth time doing actual big-ticket skiing. I had the best run of my life, skiing with my brother down Symphony Bowl through perfect powder into some untouched glades. The experience was so beautiful and moving that I actually started crying while approaching the lift.

I have been teaching my boyfriend to ski also, but we stupidly set his DIN settings too high on his skies, and he twisted his ski and it didn't pop off as it should've, and he suffered an ACL injury-- this was on his third run. We had bought him new boots for the trip, plus the cost of flights out there? Big bummer. Still, while we were sitting there under the chair, waiting for the ski patrol to come and take him to the clinic, he said 'this is still the most fun I've had ever, I feel like I'm in a Coors Light commercial'

Skiing is ridiculously expensive and unless you're going to be one of those people who lives by a mountain and does only hike-up backcountry, it takes time and dedication to have a transcendent experience, but when it does happen, it really makes me feel like it's the only reason bodies and money and gravity and winter exist

froggles! (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, 5 February 2019 17:53 (five years ago) link

I've never been on a rollercoaster

― ( ͡☉ ͜ʖ ͡☉) (jim in vancouver)

me neither

flappy bird, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 17:54 (five years ago) link

I'm too afraid to ski, but now that I live in Quebec and not Illinois, its non-frivolity is clearer. Golf is an atrocity.

rob, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 17:54 (five years ago) link

prob not really controversial but downhill skiing/snowboarding as a leisure activity should be considered a dumb wasteful indulgence and worthy of ridicule. it's dangerous, frivolous, and expensive - all that dumb technical gear, lift tickets, cost of meals at a ski resort, the work required to maintain and patrol a ski mountain, lodging if you aren't a local. what a waste. there are other ways to get outside in the winter that are cheaper, safer, and more enjoyable.


Counterpoint: rich people injuring themselves is bantz

gray say nah to me (wins), Tuesday, 5 February 2019 17:55 (five years ago) link

Actually that’s not really a counterpoint

gray say nah to me (wins), Tuesday, 5 February 2019 17:56 (five years ago) link

Eh, Michael Schumacher still elicits my pity.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 17:56 (five years ago) link

Skiing is ridiculously expensive and unless you're going to be one of those people who lives by a mountain and does only hike-up backcountry, it takes time and dedication to have a transcendent experience, but when it does happen, it really makes me feel like it's the only reason bodies and money and gravity and winter exist

otm

simmy simmy ya, simmy yam simmy yay (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 5 February 2019 17:57 (five years ago) link

i used to feel that way, someone who made multiple trips every winter to vermont, a few major trips to california and nevada, had all the snowboarding gear chasing a perfect run but it came to a point after i had seen life-altering injuries happen to family, suffered a concussion myself, and added up the cash both sides of my family have cumulatively spent on this dumb sport and i think i have had enough. the last few times i've gone the greatest emotion i felt was relief at the end of a run having made it down without breaking a limb or worse.

marcos, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 18:01 (five years ago) link

I skiied on one vacation as a teenager and it was neat but I can have hot chocolate at home

Norm’s Superego (silby), Tuesday, 5 February 2019 18:07 (five years ago) link

me neither

And yet you claim they're dud? I like the old fashioned enormous up-and-down rollercoasters never been on of these new-fangled twisty upside down ones.

Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Tuesday, 5 February 2019 18:08 (five years ago) link

the last few times i've gone the greatest emotion i felt was relief at the end of a run having made it down without breaking a limb or worse.

Yeah, same. I stopped skiing a few years ago. My family are all huge skiiers, but I was increasingly feeling very unsafe on the runs. I don't think I ever quite developed the right technique.

jmm, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 18:09 (five years ago) link

what is a bant

me neither

And yet you claim they're dud? I like the old fashioned enormous up-and-down rollercoasters never been on of these new-fangled twisty upside down ones.

― Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.)

they scare me

flappy bird, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 18:12 (five years ago) link

oh look ilxors resent outdoor sports

ɪmˈpəʊzɪŋ (darraghmac), Tuesday, 5 February 2019 18:12 (five years ago) link

no i love outdoor sports

marcos, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 18:14 (five years ago) link

it's true there are a lot of NBA fans on this board

omar little, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 18:15 (five years ago) link

Isn't NBA basketball?

Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Tuesday, 5 February 2019 18:30 (five years ago) link

i mean i imagine U.S. ILX loves the indoor sport of basketball above all others

omar little, Tuesday, 5 February 2019 18:31 (five years ago) link

Oh, I see.

Wee boats wobble but they don't fall down (Tom D.), Tuesday, 5 February 2019 18:31 (five years ago) link


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