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What is the future of football as concussion worries grow? I visited two families, one black and one white, with teenage boys, to examine the sport’s widening racial divide: https://t.co/K6nYHCq4Md

— AlanaSemuels (@AlanaSemuels) February 1, 2019

States where high-school tackle football has added more players since 1998:

Georgia (+52%)
Florida (+34%)
Virginia (+55%)
North Carolina (+33%)

It lost players in:
Iowa (-20%)
Kansas (-10%)
Illinois (-9%)
In Ohio, home of Pro football Hall of Fame, it grew just 0.4% https://t.co/4TXq05bH6a

— AlanaSemuels (@AlanaSemuels) February 1, 2019

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 1 February 2019 16:45 (seven years ago)

Good article.

The stats in that tweet don't support her argument well because in the last 20 years the populations of the southern states listed have grown a whole lot faster than the populations of the midwestern states. A larger football-age population is going to produce more players regardless of its racial composition.

Some of the data cited in the article is much more damning: "...Today black athletes make up nearly half of all Division I college-football players, up from 39 percent in 2000. White athletes make up 37 percent, down from 51 percent."

Brad C., Friday, 1 February 2019 17:16 (seven years ago)

the usa as roman empire analogy needs it gladiator class

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Friday, 1 February 2019 17:23 (seven years ago)

six months pass...

https://deadspin.com/what-andrew-luck-means-1837554491

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Monday, 26 August 2019 17:41 (six years ago)

Marshawn Lynch: A History is a worthwhile film to watch. David Shields made it. I'd only known him as a writer and the film's style is very much in his post-everything-collage writer style.

Yelploaf, Monday, 26 August 2019 17:47 (six years ago)

Joe Posnanski had a great post about this in which he brings up his old columns about how messed up Priest Holmes got from his overuse

https://joeposnanski.com/p/ignore-the-pain

pretty harrowing passage here:

Years after that Kansas City-Buffalo game, I visited Priest in San Antonio. He would tell me about lying awake at night, staring at the ceiling, praying for the feeling to come back to his arms and legs. He told me about looking for cracks in the sidewalk when he walks because he knows that if he hits a crack wrong now, his whole body might crumple. He told me about the migraines that split his head open. He told me that he would never have a full-night’s sleep for the rest of his life.

frogbs, Monday, 26 August 2019 18:48 (six years ago)

https://deadspin.com/my-husband-is-dying-every-day-1837411982

mookieproof, Monday, 26 August 2019 19:55 (six years ago)

https://www.cnn.com/2019/08/25/opinions/andrew-luck-nfl-risks-pearlman/index.html

Luck, on the other hand, spent his first seven years battling all sorts of injuries, missing a full one and a half seasons while facing crippling ailment after crippling ailment. Finally, enough was enough. The joy was gone. The pain overtook the pleasure.

Enter: The gift.

Knowing that their hero was exiting the arena for the final time, Colts fans booed. And booed. And booed. Not all of them, obviously -- but many. It was an ugly, vicious sound, generally reserved for led-off-in-cuffs Wall Street execs and political conmen ousted from office. Luck heard it all; later, he admitted the reaction left an Indiana-sized bruise. "Yeah, it hurt," he said. "I'll be honest, it hurt."

What Luck probably didn't realize at the time, but will almost inevitably come to see, is that the boos were truth serum -- and one is far better off knowing such.

Put differently, NFL players are meat. They are meat to owners; they are meat to coaches; and they are meat to fans. When a quarterback plays well, everyone loves him. He's the darling of the city -- free drinks, autograph requests aplenty, Instagram praise and Twitter glory, five-figure appearance fees and the finest cut of prime rib at the finest table in the finest restaurant. You are a king and a God, and you're making millions of dollars to live the life.

Then, because your body is in constant pain and you want your remaining time on earth to be prosperous and you realize throwing a prolate spheroid through the air only carries so much bliss, you decide you are done. And they scorn you.

omar little, Monday, 26 August 2019 20:45 (six years ago)

two months pass...

The hatcats have lost Washington. Took long enough.

Swilling Ambergris, Esq. (silby), Monday, 18 November 2019 04:36 (six years ago)

three weeks pass...

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/07/opinion/sunday/nfl-retired-pension.html

Most N.F.L. players who retired before 1993 receive a pension of about $365 a month per season they played, meaning that the typical seven-year player gets about $2,500 a month. Thousands get considerably less, and have stories you won’t see on network broadcasts.

One star of those New York Jets’ Super Bowl team videos now lives in a trailer; unable to afford a dentist, he barely has any teeth. A standout lineman from the storied 1970s Minnesota Vikings played 17 years and gets just $2,300 a month (he took some of his pension early). That’s not enough to cover his football-related medical bills, leaving him and his wife living check to check. There are countless more like them.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 18:50 (six years ago)

NFL fans are remarkably resistant to noticing poverty, physical debility, and suffering among ex-players. The NFL is an entertainment business and these facts are not entertaining.

A is for (Aimless), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 19:03 (six years ago)

not sure focusing on pensions is great messaging -- i don't think too many fans are getting pensions from jobs they had for a while 30 years ago. better to demand coverage of football-related medical bills

mookieproof, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 19:15 (six years ago)

one month passes...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/sports/cte-bennet-omalu/

Mordy, Wednesday, 22 January 2020 20:22 (six years ago)

players like Luke Keighly and Andrew Luck retiring so young is really going to have an effect in the coming years

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 22 January 2020 20:25 (six years ago)

three months pass...

Trump is convinced that w/out the reopening of the NFL and the normalcy it projects, he's not getting reelected. The NFL (and its billionaire Trump donors) and ESPN by trumpeting a schedule that may not even happen, is now in partnership in the Trump reelection project.

— Dave Zirin (@EdgeofSports) May 7, 2020

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 7 May 2020 17:38 (six years ago)

Sure, there's that, but those billionaire owners make a mint off those teams and they stand to *gasp* lose a shit ton of money if the season, or some facsimile of one, doesn't happen.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 7 May 2020 17:42 (six years ago)

still enablers

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 7 May 2020 17:43 (six years ago)

i can't believe i'm not blocked by zirin on twitter considering how many tweets i've drafted calling him an idiot

Mordy, Thursday, 7 May 2020 17:45 (six years ago)

figures

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 7 May 2020 17:47 (six years ago)

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/29144297/mlb-return-play-proposal-expected-week-sources-say

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Thursday, 7 May 2020 17:49 (six years ago)

theyre just tryin to catch up in the delusional game

Trumpists only care about NFL, NASCAR

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 7 May 2020 17:51 (six years ago)

this is silly right? obviously these major sports want to return to normal bc their raison d'être is playing sports not bc they are hoping trump wins. maybe they even do collectively hope he wins but why would that be on their mind when it comes to reopening their businesses.

Mordy, Thursday, 7 May 2020 17:57 (six years ago)

i'm actually kinda surprised in this take from zirin i thought he was more of a lefty guy but this take reeks of #resistance hysteria

Mordy, Thursday, 7 May 2020 17:58 (six years ago)

lol if only the XFL could've figured out how to do live sports during a pandemic

frogbs, Thursday, 7 May 2020 18:00 (six years ago)

watch what happens starting in mid-August, i'd say

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 7 May 2020 18:13 (six years ago)

they want to return to normal because they stand to lose billions in tv revenue. that is the only story here.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 7 May 2020 18:13 (six years ago)

surely the NFLPA will object to unsafe working conditions

brooklyn suicide cult (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 7 May 2020 18:16 (six years ago)

virus isn't too much worse than their regular unsafe working conditions

mookieproof, Thursday, 7 May 2020 18:27 (six years ago)

https://www.theringer.com/2020/5/11/21253986/college-football-season-coronavirus-pandemic-ncaa-amateur-model

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Wednesday, 13 May 2020 02:50 (six years ago)

I read that yesterday, it definitely made me feel better about the crappy Monday I was having

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 13 May 2020 03:00 (six years ago)

four weeks pass...

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29293290/panthers-moving-jerry-richardson-statue-stadium-precaution
imagine how shitty of a human being you have to be that the people who run the house that you built don't feel comfortable leaving a giant bronze statue of you out in public

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 11 June 2020 02:06 (five years ago)

NEWS: @gmraynor reports that 23 -- yes, 23 -- Clemson football players have tested positive for COVID-19.

Up from just two last week. https://t.co/nfTQXp6W6L

— Stewart Mandel (@slmandel) June 19, 2020

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 19 June 2020 22:15 (five years ago)

yes but has dabo called them pussies yet

mookieproof, Saturday, 20 June 2020 03:06 (five years ago)



14 at Kansas State. I guess one way to have football in the fall is to expose all the players in the summer.

circles, Sunday, 21 June 2020 01:45 (five years ago)

https://www.kansas.com/sports/college/big-12/kansas-state/article243686637.html

circles, Sunday, 21 June 2020 01:48 (five years ago)

getting literal with the thread title
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2898491-report-nfl-may-ask-fans-to-sign-liability-waivers-to-attend-games-amid-pandemic

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 2 July 2020 15:36 (five years ago)

sheesh

all cats are beautiful (silby), Thursday, 2 July 2020 18:07 (five years ago)

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/29454756/nfl-unveils-oakley-mouth-shield-combat-coronavirus
i mean come on

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 15:36 (five years ago)

Yes, and

https://www.theringer.com/2020/7/10/21319314/college-football-season-coronavirus-players-coaches-tipping-point

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 16:01 (five years ago)

grim

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 16:06 (five years ago)

If covid puts an end to college football forever I would have to give covid props for that

all cats are beautiful (silby), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 17:47 (five years ago)

agreed tbh

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 14 July 2020 20:34 (five years ago)

seriously fucked up

meanwhile the NFL is like “hey! sneezeguards INSIDE the helmet? can that be a thing? ARE U READY FOR SOME FOOTBALL”

assholes

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 17 July 2020 20:12 (five years ago)

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ftw/2020/07/26/mike-ditka-kneeling-athletes-national-anthem/112416850/

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 27 July 2020 16:33 (five years ago)

Ditka is such a piece of shit, it's impressive he kept such a good public image for so long

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 27 July 2020 16:44 (five years ago)

stick to trading your entire draft for one guy, Mikey

Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 03:03 (five years ago)

https://www.nfl.com/news/ravens-de-anthony-thomas-latest-nfl-player-to-opt-out-of-season

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 28 July 2020 18:18 (five years ago)

https://imgur.com/gallery/Nfphh2U

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 2 August 2020 01:49 (five years ago)

Is there a thread to talk about what a complete and total piece of anti-Semite shit former Chiefs RB Larry Johnson is?

Mr. Snrub, Sunday, 2 August 2020 19:59 (five years ago)


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