2020 Democratic presidential primary

is that in response to anything in particular

Cherokee Nation says Warren has apologized for the DNA test.

Statement here: pic.twitter.com/jya0dq0fym

— Greg Krieg (@GregJKrieg) February 1, 2019

Cory Booker, cursed with the most obnoxious vocal timbre in American politics, has announced.

Shout out to everyone who argued she had nothing to apologize for

And speaking of Booker

Apropos of nothing, did you know that @CoryBooker was on the board of Betsy DeVos's anti-union, pro-privatization Koch/Walton/Olin-funded org? https://t.co/vA2usIRqlW pic.twitter.com/J6V5U0DG58

— Josh Mound (@JoshuaMound) February 1, 2019

no, don't speak of him

waiting for Shakey…

Booker's announcement soundtrack, as just heard om NPR, sounds like that OHHHH YEAHHHH BOMP BOMP hit from the '80s.

Also, Marianne Wilson touting 100 bil in reparations is neat

https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/427859-new-dem-presidential-candidate-calls-for-spiritual-awakening-in

Apropos Betsy DeVos, did you know that the pundit who wrote that NYT op about Harris as prosecutor mostly has written lately about how good it is that DeVos is changing how colleges handle Title IX complaints? She sure is a progressive hero, that DeVos.

oh wow, a writer has shitty opinions on a completely different subject

Damn, tax on the wealthy going directly to fund reparations is exactly how it should happen.

yeah I admit I had dismissed her as just a kook thanks to her background but that's a mighty fine idea

re: Booker - I have to say my major knock against him is more about style than substance. A few odd things aside his voting/track record in the Senate is pretty good (his support for charter schools notwithstanding) and I don't have a ton of policy disagreements with him. But honestly I hate listening to or watching him, his high profile moments like the convention speech or his "I am Spartacus!" grandstanding just come off as clumsy and hokey to me. I do not seem to be alone in this, as this apparently lines up with the conclusions of a recent Atlantic profile as well. Those aren't reasons for me to personally not vote for him, but I do doubt that he can win w that persona and hamhanded maneuvering with the media, whether it's publicly defending Bob Menendez (I mean, I get why he did this but it still looked bad) or this dumbass rollout where it looks like he's desperately playing catchup to Harris or any number of other missteps. I don't think this guy can navigate the national media in a way that ends with him in the oval office.

Cherokee Nation says Warren has apologized for the DNA test.

Statement here: pic.twitter.com/jya0dq0fym
— Greg Krieg (@GregJKrieg) February 1, 2019
― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Thursday, January 31, 2019 9:55 PM (yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

wonder why she apologized when she did nothing wrong and this was all a stupid Trump talking point according to the ilx centrist crew?

Aesthetically he’s closer to Rubio than not

Who's winning the Democratic 404 page Primary? pic.twitter.com/T0yGMuR1Ga

— Zeke Miller (@ZekeJMiller) February 1, 2019

Joking aside we have in Booker someone whose stated reason for running is to unite us by force of his personality. That’s an insult, and we know how it works. Anyone for him who doesn’t reckon with this has his head in the sand or a trick up his sleeve.

— Richard M. Nixon (@dick_nixon) February 1, 2019

whatever Obama had, Booker doesn't have it

Sterling political instincts, yes. Ear to the ground, man of the people ... pic.twitter.com/BWK85kjI6C

— Richard M. Nixon (@dick_nixon) February 1, 2019

"He was someone who was pro-voucher, he was pro-charter school, he was somebody who was tough on crime in the city of Newark. If he stays in that lane, and is the articulate, inspirational guy that he is, then I think he’s got a legitimate chance to" beat Trump - @GovChristie

— Jonathan Martin (@jmartNYT) February 1, 2019

really wish Christie's bloated corpse had turned up floating in the east river by now tbh

My issue was the constant repeating the misinformation that she was claiming tribal membership (a Trump lie) when it was extremely easy to verify that she made a point of explicitly NOT doing that. Really baffling because other people (not just me) took pains to explain that distinction multiple times. It would be one thing if someone argued “that distinction doesn’t matter” (and there is a case for that) no one was bothering to do that.

Fair to say that she should have consulted w tribal leaders before responding simply given that Trump’s attacks on her were attacks on them as well.

*repeating of misinformation

the Passaic River would be better for Christie, or the Hackensack.

Pine Barrens also acceptable

My issue was the constant repeating the misinformation that she was claiming tribal membership (a Trump lie) when it was extremely easy to verify that she made a point of explicitly NOT doing that. Really baffling because other people (not just me) took pains to explain that distinction multiple times. It would be one thing if someone argued “that distinction doesn’t matter” (and there is a case for that) no one was bothering to do that.

― Nerdstrom Poindexter, Friday, February 1, 2019 9:08 AM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah, no one was saying that.

she literally put herself as Native American on forms and repeatedly said that she was of Cherokee ancestry.

omg are we really still talking about this Trump talking point

Jim you repeatedly said she was claiming ancestry. Aimless took pains to explain it you. Do I need to post the clip again and markdown the timecode again for you with her own words which should have promptly led to you to deciding against dying on this hill?

"As a kid, I never asked my mom for documentation when she talked about our Native American heritage. What kid would? But I knew my father's family didn't like that she was part Cherokee and part Delaware, so my parents had to elope"

you and aimless show your ass repeatedly regarding this topic

Actual tribal membership is a different thing brah. Okay we’re doing this again, I have 11 conference calls I today I suppose I can cancel 3 of them.

4:21 in..
https://youtu.be/RHzbdZuVyAM

plz don't do this again I beg you

I already asked my secretary to cancel the calls

yeah, this thread is depressing enough already

Okay, standing down.

no one on ilx made the claim that she was claiming tribal citizenship, you clown

anyone wants to sling some shit at an "establishment"/middle-of-the-road Dem candidate here's maybe a good opening

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/428060-brown-medicare-for-all-not-practical

appropriating marginalized identities fucking sucks, we wouldn't even be thinking about elizabeth warren in 2019 if she had claimed african-american heritage. colonialism sucks

yeah, this thread is depressing enough already

― Dan S, Friday, February 1, 2019 10:41 AM (seven minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

moreover there are two of these depressing threads for some reason

no one on ilx made the claim that she was claiming tribal citizenship, you clown

you are the dumbest motherfucker on this board fuck off

Extremely not true but sure.

A few 100% made that claim. It’s okay to just agree that that’s true. Don’t have to be a piece of shit because you’re mad about something else, Make things about what they’re actually about.

https://facts.elizabethwarren.com/

She should never have gotten baited into addressing this.

Xpost there was like an entirely day of arguing I was barely involved in it with people here arguing that very point. JFC.

If she apologized, that’s good though. This is the kind of experience someone could learn from—it wasn’t malicious

yeah probably

thanks to that "facts" page I learned about a whole new set of smears I had no idea ever existed lol

“Don’t engage in terms defined by the enemy” is hopefully something she learned.